Tbh I've never actually been in that store. But yeah, someone should probably talk to him.
EDIT: he used to trade a 31/31/31/31/31/31 shiny deoxys too.
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Tbh I've never actually been in that store. But yeah, someone should probably talk to him.
EDIT: he used to trade a 31/31/31/31/31/31 shiny deoxys too.
So id like to report Aggronman, he is redistributing a poke someone chained as a project for me. He doesnt have rights to the poke, and he is making it fully redis, and i dont even think he has the poke.
here is some proof that he is doing it
Heres a link to the thread were it was being distributed: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51954
and here is a link of the public profile of the user redistributing it: http://www.smogon.com/forums/member.php?u=30238
as you can see, the description was copied and pasted from my thread, and he just made some small adjustments, even redistributable is spelled the same way i spelled it in my thread.
here is some proof that he is doing it
Heres a link to the thread were it was being distributed: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51954
and here is a link of the public profile of the user redistributing it: http://www.smogon.com/forums/member.php?u=30238
as you can see, the description was copied and pasted from my thread, and he just made some small adjustments, even redistributable is spelled the same way i spelled it in my thread.
I will back this claim up. After we got on his case in the thread the nature somehow changed to adamant as well and its (excellent) HP grass 61 evaporated as well. Not sure what the fuck he was trying to pull, but it was pretty dumb.
Thunder37 uses illegal hacks. His pokemon had 252 in every stat. I did damage calcs and it proves it. Blizard from 252 timid abomasnow did about 30% to his Jolteon, and tunderbolt from timid flrosslass did ~23% to his lucario
I asked him to go to trade after the battle and he ignores my post I sent him a PM, see if he responds.
Will edit in the damage calcs.
His lucario was Adamant CB, as blaze kick was doing 49.10% - 57.78% to my impish 176 def/ 252 Hp skarm.
He had to of had max attack to do that much. It outsped my252 speed adamant mamoswine so it had some EV's in speed.
My timid 252 s.attack frosslass thunderbolt did 21.80% - 25.58% to the same lucario, meaning it had to of had 252 Hp and s.def as well.
My timid 252 s.attack abomasnow did ~38.32% To jolteon meaning it did min damage and he had 252 HP/ s.def
The same life orb jolteon did 35.51% - 41.74% to my 0/0 abomasnow.
I asked him to go to trade after the battle and he ignores my post I sent him a PM, see if he responds.
Will edit in the damage calcs.
His lucario was Adamant CB, as blaze kick was doing 49.10% - 57.78% to my impish 176 def/ 252 Hp skarm.
He had to of had max attack to do that much. It outsped my252 speed adamant mamoswine so it had some EV's in speed.
My timid 252 s.attack frosslass thunderbolt did 21.80% - 25.58% to the same lucario, meaning it had to of had 252 Hp and s.def as well.
My timid 252 s.attack abomasnow did ~38.32% To jolteon meaning it did min damage and he had 252 HP/ s.def
The same life orb jolteon did 35.51% - 41.74% to my 0/0 abomasnow.
Damage clacs above, I used Metalkids. If you need more, i can do more. I stalled out most of his pokemon, as i was using a hail team.
He replied to my PM:
He replied to my PM:
Thunder37 said:
Emm...I know...whenever someone tells me something might be hacked, I remove from thread straight away....and I assure you, nothing with my OT is hacked, and with distributing Falconpwch's Porygon - z, well I haven't even traded it yet, and the person who gave me told me I could..so..I don't see where I am going wrong, I NEVER Intentionally trade hacks.
It was the fact that we were telling you something that good had to be hacked, yet you continued to argue that it was legit just because it passed a hack check allegely done by people no one's heard of.
In my opinion, Pokewiz708 should be on the probational blacklist. He was distributing a Heatran with invalid IVs. He said that he miss read his AR but thats extreamly unlikely since he most likely used it for all the pokes in his trade thread. Also, since there is a person on the probational blacklist for distributing a hacked Celebi I believe he should be on it too. I'm not saying he's a frecuent hacker or a bad person but its just too fishy (or as Lorak said "Fishier than the Finneon in destroyer's avatar.")
Here is the link to the giveaway: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52159
Here is the link to the giveaway: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52159
In his (Pokewiz708) defense, he is giving everyone who guessed a credit, and he never did give away the Heatran. Not saying that he shouldn't be put on, just saying he shouldn't be on the blacklist, just the probational one.
i've read the ar wrong before..apparently sometimes it doesn't go through, so it shows the last pokemon i checked's ivs..so if he checked a breed before checking the sr, then it is possible to have misread the ar.
Yeah. I mean the Start/Select DS buttons are tiny and somewhat hard to press, so if you're not paying attention it doesn't work sometimes. I don't see what the big deal is. Like people said, he gave everyone who requested one a credit, and didn't even trade it to anyone.
I admit it's weird how he could misread it, but nothing bad came out of it.
I admit it's weird how he could misread it, but nothing bad came out of it.
In that case both of these people sohuld be taken of the probational blacklist:
FC: Horus Diamond FC: 3737 6631 4508, Horus Pearl FC: 4811 4704 3135
zerohorus: hacked beldum for breeding project, or cloner had hacked it,
however, did not trade it to anyone before it was found hacked.
FC: 0001 0818 9529
Lovell_600: Hacked Shaymin, did a giveaway with it.
However, did not trade it to anyone before it was found hacked.
But also, if you checked something that good wouldn't you make sure.
Also, he said he read it wrong I'm not sure how you read it wrong for 1 poke but not all the others. If he said he misclicked the buttons I wouldn't even have said anything.
FC: Horus Diamond FC: 3737 6631 4508, Horus Pearl FC: 4811 4704 3135
zerohorus: hacked beldum for breeding project, or cloner had hacked it,
however, did not trade it to anyone before it was found hacked.
FC: 0001 0818 9529
Lovell_600: Hacked Shaymin, did a giveaway with it.
However, did not trade it to anyone before it was found hacked.
But also, if you checked something that good wouldn't you make sure.
Also, he said he read it wrong I'm not sure how you read it wrong for 1 poke but not all the others. If he said he misclicked the buttons I wouldn't even have said anything.
This is what he said:
If I was under the impression that I had gotten an amazing HP Ice 70 Heatran, I would have at least looked at its summary, but that's just me.
He also didn't say that the last thing he checked and saved on was an HP Ice 70 something, which would have to have been the case had the code not activated correctly. He just said the code messed up/ he misread it. And he had been using the same code all day and apparently didn't have any problems until that one.
Also, "He's a nice guy he's giving away credits" is not really a reason not to put someone on the probational blacklist, which serves the purpose of alerting the community to suspicious activity, which is what we have here. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, I'm just saying we can't prove anything one way or another.
But he didn't really defend himself, he just said "ban me if you want to" :/
I would have at least said "yesterday I bred an HP Ice Eevee, I must have mis-pressed the buttons," if that was the case.
That would have made its characteristic "Likes to run." That's kind of a huge hint that your Pokemon doesn't have a single 31 IV. This one supposedly had three.
If I was under the impression that I had gotten an amazing HP Ice 70 Heatran, I would have at least looked at its summary, but that's just me.
He also didn't say that the last thing he checked and saved on was an HP Ice 70 something, which would have to have been the case had the code not activated correctly. He just said the code messed up/ he misread it. And he had been using the same code all day and apparently didn't have any problems until that one.
Also, "He's a nice guy he's giving away credits" is not really a reason not to put someone on the probational blacklist, which serves the purpose of alerting the community to suspicious activity, which is what we have here. I'm not saying he's a bad guy, I'm just saying we can't prove anything one way or another.
But he didn't really defend himself, he just said "ban me if you want to" :/
I would have at least said "yesterday I bred an HP Ice Eevee, I must have mis-pressed the buttons," if that was the case.
That's different, as they haven't proven this guy actually hacked anything. Besides, there is a chance when he said "I read it wrong" he just meant he read the wrong IVs and didn't know why the IVs showed up incorrect (possibly caused by misclicking buttons).
EDIT: Not everyone knows what the IV sayings mean. He seems rather new to the scene, so it would make sense.
I know it's circumstantial, but you can't throw someone under the bus that no one's even come close to being proven as a hacker, and who hasn't even caused any harm. It was one thing if you just couldn't trust this guy, but he's done nothing to break anyone's trust.
people, hes from serebii. case closed. leave him be.
Its probational its not ruining his Smogon life its just a list till they prove it was nothing, most likely a month a most in his case. I understand if he read it wrong. I'm not trowing him under the bus its not like people arn't traded with if they are on the porbational blacklist. Look at zerhorus plenty of people traded with him.
Rawr. No need for the sarcasm. Well then, that does make it more supsicious, apparently.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52187
Dodgy stuff here.
His Houndoom #1:
Nature: Timid Ability: Flash Fire HP: Fighting (70)
Individual Values: 27 / 14 / 30 / 30 / 30 / 30
Cosmic Jeffs done with me in joint BP:
#1 Gender: Male Nature: Timid Ability: Flash Fire OT/ID: CosmicJ/18704
IVs: 27 / 14 / 30 / 30 / 30 / 30
HP Fighting 70
His Houndoom #2:
(♀) Nature: Timid Ability: Flash Fire HP: Grass (70)
Individual Values: 31 / 27 / 26 / 30 / 30 / 31
Whoops, too bad he misread it and fucked up the SpA and this is HP poison.
Mine:
#1 Gender: Male Nature: Timid Ability: Flash Fire OT/ID: CosmicJ/18704
IVs: 27 / 14 / 30 / 30 / 30 / 30
HP Fighting 70
His Yanma #1 (BRED IN D/P)
Nature: Modest Ability: Speed Boost HP: Ground (70)
Individual Values: 31 / 19 / 31 / 30 / 30 / 31
Mine (BRED IN EMERALD, RECOGNIZE THE SPREAD?):
#1 Gender: Male Nature: Modest Ability: Speed Boost OT/ID: DENZEL/52248
IVs: 31 / 19 / 31 / 30 / 30 / 31
His Yanma #2 (BRED IN D/P)
(♀) Nature: Modest Ability: Tinted Lens HP: Ground (70)
Individual Values: 31 / 19 / 31 / 30 / 30 / 31
Mine (BRED IN EMERALD, RECOGNIZE THE SPREAD?):
#2 Gender: Male Nature: Modest Ability: Tinted Lens OT/ID: DENZEL/52248
IVs: 31 / 19 / 31 / 30 / 30 / 31
Of course we could always talk about these two of his with the same reverse ice spread:
Riolu
Nature: Timid Ability: Steadfast HP: Ice (70)
Individual Values: 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 30
InfernapeNature: Timid Ability: Blaze HP: Ice (70)
Individual Values: 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 30
Yeah ......
I call bullshit.
Dodgy stuff here.
His Houndoom #1:
Nature: Timid Ability: Flash Fire HP: Fighting (70)
Individual Values: 27 / 14 / 30 / 30 / 30 / 30
Cosmic Jeffs done with me in joint BP:
#1 Gender: Male Nature: Timid Ability: Flash Fire OT/ID: CosmicJ/18704
IVs: 27 / 14 / 30 / 30 / 30 / 30
His Houndoom #2:
(♀) Nature: Timid Ability: Flash Fire HP: Grass (70)
Individual Values: 31 / 27 / 26 / 30 / 30 / 31
Whoops, too bad he misread it and fucked up the SpA and this is HP poison.
Mine:
#1 Gender: Male Nature: Timid Ability: Flash Fire OT/ID: CosmicJ/18704
IVs: 27 / 14 / 30 / 30 / 30 / 30
His Yanma #1 (BRED IN D/P)
Nature: Modest Ability: Speed Boost HP: Ground (70)
Individual Values: 31 / 19 / 31 / 30 / 30 / 31
Mine (BRED IN EMERALD, RECOGNIZE THE SPREAD?):
#1 Gender: Male Nature: Modest Ability: Speed Boost OT/ID: DENZEL/52248
IVs: 31 / 19 / 31 / 30 / 30 / 31
His Yanma #2 (BRED IN D/P)
(♀) Nature: Modest Ability: Tinted Lens HP: Ground (70)
Individual Values: 31 / 19 / 31 / 30 / 30 / 31
Mine (BRED IN EMERALD, RECOGNIZE THE SPREAD?):
#2 Gender: Male Nature: Modest Ability: Tinted Lens OT/ID: DENZEL/52248
IVs: 31 / 19 / 31 / 30 / 30 / 31
Of course we could always talk about these two of his with the same reverse ice spread:
Riolu
Nature: Timid Ability: Steadfast HP: Ice (70)
Individual Values: 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 30
InfernapeNature: Timid Ability: Blaze HP: Ice (70)
Individual Values: 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 31 / 30
Yeah ......
I call bullshit.
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