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HGSS Megaspeculation Thread

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whirlpool still can be there like how in honen there was dive and no dive hm FR LG, i think you had to delete hm before trading between the 2 can't recall anyway whirlpool is not a issue

edit:wow you beat me to it anyway w.e
 
They'll probably replace Defog with Whirlpool or something like that (the HMs themselves can't be traded anyway, so it's not like it matters). After all, FR/LG didn't have Dive while RSE did. So, I can see them keeping the Whirlpools.

It could happen to Headbutt, so Headbutts trees theory still live.

btw: HONEY TREES R 4 (BAN ME PLEASE) HEADBUTT FTW
 
Mt. Silver will probably be lit up now. Dark Cave though will probably be like the Wayward Cave in DPPt, as in, still being dark and an area where Flash can be used as a result, as I don't believe it was really too important of an area.

It was only the entrance floor that was never lit up, but it was still easy to navigate it. After that, barring wild encounters, you can reach Red in under 30 seconds.
 
It was only the entrance floor that was never lit up, but it was still easy to navigate it. After that, barring wild encounters, you can reach Red in under 30 seconds.
Ah, I hadn't remembered. Been too long since I played them (the batteries of my copies of Gold, Silver, and Crystal have all been dead for a while now). If that's so, then it probably won't matter too much, so it will most likely be kept dark then.
 
I'd like to see Red's team updated, hopefully with more powerful (and, less likely, other regions') Pokemon. Sure, they were super high leveled, but anyone with half a clue about battling could beat him in less than five tries.
 
So I've never played a Japanese import.. I'm sure it can't be too hard, right? This is the first time I think I'm excited to really import it and struggle through the game.

Anyone else?
 
So I've never played a Japanese import.. I'm sure it can't be too hard, right? This is the first time I think I'm excited to really import it and struggle through the game.

Anyone else?

If you've played a Pokemon game before, you should be fine. Bulbagarden has move / nature / ability / etc translations as well. After a few days, there should be perfunctory walkthroughs posted on sites like Gamefaqs too.
 
Eh. I liked Red's team, it really seemed to show how most people made their teams in Yellow series (Pikachu + 3 original starters + Snorlax + x eeveelution). Hg/Ss just wouldn't feel right if Red had different pokémon, in my opinion.
 
So I've never played a Japanese import.. I'm sure it can't be too hard, right? This is the first time I think I'm excited to really import it and struggle through the game.

Anyone else?
I imported Platinum and made through it easy enough, and I can only read like three characters of Japanese (the one used for moon/month, tsuki, the one for the possesive "no", and the one for day). If I got stumped on something, like what move a Pokemon was trying to learn, I simply confirmed it by looking up the level-up list on Serebii. Beyond that, it's really pretty straightforward.
 
I imported Platinum and made through it easy enough, and I can only read like three characters of Japanese (the one used for moon/month, tsuki, the one for the possesive "no", and the one for day). If I got stumped on something, like what move a Pokemon was trying to learn, I simply confirmed it by looking up the level-up list on Serebii. Beyond that, it's really pretty straightforward.
I can blast through a pokemon game I've never played in Japanese rather easily, with only 3 years worth of actually learning the language. I believe the language spoken to the character that you're playing as is the "plain" speech, which should be learned within your 3rd year and is mainly used as conversation amongst friends. The attacks can be simply looked up, and even memorized. The game is meant for 10 year olds, and I've seen so many people complaining about how they can't understand what the game is saying playing the Japanese version, while waiting for the U.S. version. I can't understand why, they can either learn the language or wait for the U.S. version, which I hope they choose the former.
 
Do you think the NPC's pokemon will have set abilities? Or change with each game/playthrough? For example, will whitney's milktank always have scrappy, will it always have thick fat, or will it varry? Discuss this, we should, hmm
 
Agreeing with tripe. I really don't see what you're missing by waiting to play the game in your own native tongue. Great britian and other English-speaking countries, however, should be able to get their copies just a quickly as Americans do. It's simple spelling differences, not an entirely different language, that seperates them from getting their games months in advanced.

Also, I'm starting to wonder what the Day-Care Egg will be (no one's said anything about this yet, iirc). =P
 
Do you think the NPC's pokemon will have set abilities? Or change with each game/playthrough? For example, will whitney's milktank always have scrappy, will it always have thick fat, or will it varry? Discuss this, we should, hmm
I think what they'd do would be whatever they did with the trainers' Pokemon in Fire Red and Leaf Green, which I believe was giving them definitive abilities, but I'm not positive on that.
 
It'd produce some variety in the game, and it'd keep us guessing and having to innovate either further, especially in your example of Whitney's Miltank, if it had Scrappy, then that'd be less of a reason to use ghost, besides the obligatory rollout which would crush Gastly, which I believe is the only obtainable ghost at that point. Thick fat would make it even more of an incentive to trade that karate kid for his Machop in the department store, espcially for the players that cyndaquil. Another example would be Clair's Kingdra, if it had sniper, that's pretty much a ohko on any in game pokemon at that point, or it doubled it's speed using swift swim, with the right moves could sweep an entire team.
 
I'd like to see Red's team updated, hopefully with more powerful (and, less likely, other regions') Pokemon. Sure, they were super high leveled, but anyone with half a clue about battling could beat him in less than five tries.
My brother beat Red with level 40's, so yeah your point is quite valid.

Although, I think a great part for red would be:
Starter (Most likely Charizard, since it's RED, and Charizard is on the box for that game)
Snorlax
Hitmonlee/chan
A Prehistoric Pokemon
Lapras
An Eeveelution

Why? Because these are all pokemon obtained other than by going into grass/caves etc and catching them, they're all obtained specially in Red.
 
I'm just looking at it like this:

You use SR:
Charizard loses 50% Hp
Pikachu loses 25% Hp
Lapras loses 25% Hp (iirc)
Glaceon, Flareon, Jolteon (if used), loses 25% Hp

I'd be spamming Roar/Whirlwind as much as possible, with this many Rock weaknesses.
 
^Electric's not weak to Rock: It's neutral (so Pikachu and Jolteon lose 12%). So using his original team, Charizard is Red's only SR-weak Pokemon. The rest are all neutral.
 
Oh, I know I'm not sure - nobody can be sure they aren't in until the games come out. Unless, that is, CoroCoro states next month that "headbutt trees are out". But that would be a total downer to hear when the articles are supposed to get you pumped for HG/SS.

However, as my old 8 Ball would say, "signs point to no".

1. Headbutt trees used to be plentiful; we haven't had a scan with one yet.
2. Headbutt is no longer a TM (big indicator)
3. I don't think GameFreak is a fan anymore of "use a move, encounter Pokemon" (outside of Sweet Scent). In DPPt there were no Pokemon hiding under Rock Smash rocks, plus the idea of headbutt trees was made into Honey Trees.

I'm quite sure I've been attacked by Geodudes in the cave to the North of Jubilife when I smashed some of those rocks. And down at the beach near Pastoria. I think the encounter rate may have been lowered, but I'm sure they still have it.


In regards to Red; I'd like to see him have an entire team of L100s, but with good team/move/item sets and a better AI. But then, I think he should be less of a big deal than Mewtwo once you get to Kanto, because Mewtwo's story is quite cool.
 
I think the area west of cianwood is the pokethlon place. After all you can see a domelike structure west of it. If thats true then no battle frontier.
 
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Entei's sprite, if someone wants it for avatar or w/e
 
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Entei's sprite, if someone wants it for avatar or w/e

My custom sprite suits me fine, thanks. ;P

And in the original games, the Battle Tower was situated West of Olivine (Well, at least in Crystal; I think G/S either had empty space or it was inaccessible).

I don't see why we can't have the cake and ice cream here, actually. IIRC, Platinum used about 30 MB of memory. Heck, Game Freak could actually add a LARGE amount of extras to Hg/Ss, and the finished product wouldn't be any bigger than one of the larger DS games, which is the Yu-Gi-Oh! series (Seriously, they generally use about 200~ MB.)

In other words, the Battle Frontier and the Pokéthlon area, in my opinion, could both fit in the games without any issues.
 
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