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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

VashTheStampede said:
Well, from the OP, it says to count the seconds from when the game first turns on until you get to "gameworld" (I used the online stopwatch), and that is your delay or something. Then right below that, it says to Synch your clock, soft-reset at the next minute, and catch a pokemon and get a different delay, which are what I posted.'

...Maybe I just shouldn't be doing this when I have such horrible news, but ignore this comment.
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No, it doesn't.

Nowhere does it say to actually count them.

It gives a general description of what the numbers mean/where they come from for informational purposes.

In the calibration section it specifically mentions that you will get a range of delays and that this is normal:

Please keep in mind that we go through this Calibration Phase because each person can and probably get slightly different results. If your average range is between 620 and 630 that is fine. It's just your range and what you should use.
 
FrameCalibration said:
7. Reset your game, and then immediately cancel the Journal and collect the egg. Remember to speak to the daycare man as quickly as you can as the frame starts to increase as soon as the Journal is canceled.

8. Immediately catch a wild Pokémon and use it to find the initial seed.
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Since everything around the Daycare is around like level 20, is it safe to assume I can just Fly and go to somewhere like Resort Area?

EDIT:
@Mingot: Yea. I saw that afterwards. I've not been in a proper state of mind in the past few days, so I'm bound to make small mistakes like that happen. That's why I was trying to have somebody on AIM help me out, so I wouldn't flood this topic.
 
bearsfan092 said:
Yes, and in a post on the first page. I'm gonna keep all videos that I think are important in there, not just mine.
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Could you maybe explain what you meant in your second breeding video when you said, "If you have a multiple of two under your target, you can go ahead and try to abuse the RNG"?

Do you mean that, for example, if you had 16 as your target frame, and you were on a frame of 2, 4, or 8, you could go ahead and start journal flipping?
 
Flurries said:
Could you maybe explain what you meant in your second breeding video when you said, "If you have a multiple of two under your target, you can go ahead and try to abuse the RNG"?

Do you mean that, for example, if you had 16 as your target frame, and you were on a frame of 2, 4, or 8, you could go ahead and start journal flipping?
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You almost have it. 2,4,6,8,10, 12, and 14 are all viable targets.
 
Why am I being so dumb at math lately. I was thinking factors of 16...
Okay, well the breeding video was very good, and I think I understand it enough now.

Did you just pick 4-20 as a random frame limit? Or did you do some form of calibration to find out that 4 was your lowest frame possible?
 
Flurries said:
Why am I being so dumb at math lately. I was thinking factors of 16...
Okay, well the breeding video was very good, and I think I understand it enough now.

Did you just pick 4-20 as a random frame limit? Or did you do some form of calibration to find out that 4 was your lowest frame possible?
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I can explain this, although you won't be very satisfied with what I have to tell you.

Typically, on a random save point in front of the day care man, I usually get frame 3-7, with 4,5, and 6 being the most common. I took the lowest of my common range (4) and went up to a point that would give me enough possibilities for a spread that would yield flawless with the parent set I had. Usually, for quint flawless, I can find this by the 20's, so that's how I put my range. Sure enough, it yielded me a spread that was favorable to my parents. There isn't a real science to it unfortunately.
 
Here's another question:

#1) WEEPINBELL 51
SEED: D40F0279
SECONDS: 14
DELAY: 624
FRAME: 9

That's the result FRAME after doing my first Egg Calibration. Is it normal for the Seconds to be different from the Delay Calibration (Which was 13 Seconds for me)?

This will be my last Q for a few hours I think, I have to get home soon and do chores.. I'll have to copy down this info and stuff I got, lol.
 
Either you did your calibration incorrectly or you did something differently with that Weepinbell. I'm more inclined to say you did somethign wrong with the Weepinbell, but I did calibration on my Platinum once and got messed up when my external clock decided to autosync itself.
 
bearsfan092 said:
Either you did your calibration incorrectly or you did something differently with that Weepinbell. I'm more inclined to say you did somethign wrong with the Weepinbell, but I did calibration on my Platinum once and got messed up when my external clock decided to autosync itself.
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I think the only thing I did differently, aside from advancing the date, is accidentally open the PokeDex.

1) Change Date
2) Synch clocks
3) Usual press A really fast to get to Gameworld
4) B closes Journal ASAP (Caught and released Bibarrel)
5) Take Egg
6) Fly to Resort Area, bike up and catch weepinbell (I noted the time I restarted as well) and everything was correct.
 
Ok I have a question about getting perfect hatched pokemon,
so here the seed im aiming:
Seed: A7110278
Date: 2009/07/22
Second: 13
Frame: 7
Delay: 620 - 630
So when i try to fall in this frame, i do the following, enter the world at exact time then open my journal and in the first page i have a captured/defeated poke which i take as 1 then in the next 2 and i go back for the third and the close and get the egg, but when i try to see in what frame i fell it doesn't even appears so i go catch a wild poke and find out that i fell in frame no. 135 what the...? any advice?
 
I have a few little questions.

After a little search with wichus pokerng (does this program really search all spreads that there are?) I found this spread:
bold, 31, 26, 31, 26, 31, 30, HP FIRE 70, frame: 313, initialseed: 1e0f08b9
The delay is 2224 for the year 2009. This wouldn't be a problem because I'm pretty good at resetting in emerald but could it be, that the rngreporter doesn't find initialseeds with a delay over 900 or something like that? I don't believe that the delay advances exactly 60 steps per second after the white screen like the frame didn't advance at exactly this rate in emerald. So I can't go after the spread because I can't adjust my countdowntime. Would it be possible to integrate a option to choose a delayinterval which one would like to search through in the initialseedfinder application?

I know there is this spread:
bold, 31, 4, 31, 30, 31, 30, HP FIRE 68, frame: 1881, initialseed: 18140275
which has a quite nice delay of 620 in 2009 but for me and I believe there are others like me, it is more certain to hit a higher delay and lower frame because it's too easy to miscount and a reset only for the delay is a lot faster.

I hope these questions weren't asked before (I don't have the time to read through nearly 300 pages).

Thanks for answering and thank you for the research of the rng, the programs and everything :)
 
zerohorus said:
Ok I have a question about getting perfect hatched pokemon,
so here the seed im aiming:
Seed: A7110278
Date: 2009/07/22
Second: 13
Frame: 7
Delay: 620 - 630
So when i try to fall in this frame, i do the following, enter the world at exact time then open my journal and in the first page i have a captured/defeated poke which i take as 1 then in the next 2 and i go back for the third and the close and get the egg, but when i try to see in what frame i fell it doesn't even appears so i go catch a wild poke and find out that i fell in frame no. 135 what the...? any advice?
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There is no way your egg was on frame 135. You've done something wrong in determining that.

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There too posts on the first page for hitting high delays.

If you know the exact IVs you can use open search to find your initial seed.

Or you can use the coin flip to determine if you hit it, and if not then immediately catch something to find out what seed you did hit. There is not really a need to increase the delay (for 900) for finding an initial seed.

All explained in the first page.
 
Since I got the right frame for a Naughty Shiny (Frame 323! 25 taps...Whaaaat), I was wondering if I could take it from here and do the tutorial for perfect breed IVs. Or if I can only soft reset for better IVs? I've seen lots and lots of perfect IVs shinies around here, so I was wondering if that's how you do it @.@
 
bearsfan092 said:
I can explain this, although you won't be very satisfied with what I have to tell you.

Typically, on a random save point in front of the day care man, I usually get frame 3-7, with 4,5, and 6 being the most common. I took the lowest of my common range (4) and went up to a point that would give me enough possibilities for a spread that would yield flawless with the parent set I had. Usually, for quint flawless, I can find this by the 20's, so that's how I put my range. Sure enough, it yielded me a spread that was favorable to my parents. There isn't a real science to it unfortunately.
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No, this answered it for me. :)
 
mingot said:
There too posts on the first page for hitting high delays.

If you know the exact IVs you can use open search to find your initial seed.

Or you can use the coin flip to determine if you hit it, and if not then immediately catch something to find out what seed you did hit. There is not really a need to increase the delay for finding an initial seed.

All explained in the first page.
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I know how to hit higher delays, for example I reseted a Azelf with a delay of 845 to get it on frame 1.
The bold part is my problem. After I got the errormessage: 'no reasonable initial seed found' while reseting with a delay of round 2224 multilple times. I tried other delays and up to 850 i didn't get the error und from 950 I got it. (I hadn't tested between 850 and 950). All examples on the first page are with delays lower than 900 so I thought that perhaps the rngreporter can't find initial seeds with delays over 900. You don't need it with normal resets (delay between 590 and 650) and the less you search the faster you are so it would be understandable to impliment a mininum and maximum delay for the search.
Until now I only used the methode with the stats of a pokemon. I didn't know anything like open search existed because there is nothing about it on the first page or ctrl+f overlooked it. I will try it out in the hope that there won't come that frustrating message.

Thanks for helping.
 
Here goes nothing...

ID: 25720
SID: 59216

seed: fd140267
date: 2015 12 19

seconds: 14
delay: 600

time: 20:11:14
sync: 20:10:00
reset: 20:11:00

flips: THHHTHTHHT

frame: 498 (248journal flips, 1 scent). I don't have any roamers.
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now this...

Slot 0: 0-19 20% (Swarm)
Slot 1: 20-39 20% (Swarm)
Slot 2: 40-49 10%
Slot 3: 50-59 10%
Slot 4: 60-69 10%
Slot 5: 70-79 10%
Slot 6: 80-84 5% (Trophy Garden, Current)
Slot 7: 85-89 5% (Trophy Garden, Previous)
Slot 8: 90-93 4%
Slot 9: 94-97 4%
Slot 10: 98 1%
Slot 11: 99 1%
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So, im trying to get a modest eevee. Its the "current" pokemon in slot 6.

the frame before my target frame last 4 digits of its PID is 1695.

1695/656 = 2.5. This is where i stop. Does this mean on this seed + time only creates a slot one pokemon? That means i can't get the slot 6 eevee??? Confused is an understatement lol.

Or does all this mean i just have to pick a different spread or somethin?

Thanks beforehand to anyone that takes their time to help.
 
Okay Sohofalco, first off, download the new RNGreporter. It calculates encounter slots so you don't have to do that stuff.

Second, if you want more options, you need more frames where that Eevee can appear. To do that, get a synchronizer of the nature you want, input that synch nature into RNGreporter, and it will give you other frames that will yield the same Eevee, which you can calculate (or let RNGreporter do it) which slot each frame accounts for.
 
I have one quick question. If I kill a pokemon or one below lv50 shows up when I'm trying to find my initial seed, do I need to SR? I'm finding the initial seed for breeding shinies.
 
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