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Can't find what emloop?
Anyways it's on th front page 4th or 5th Post...
Basicly it's timer that you can start at the same time as hard reseting/soft reseting, when the timer stops, it makes a beeping sound so you can practice by following the sound and pressing A at the same time as the timer beeps..anyways that's my way of using it, however there are other way's, explained in the 4th or 5th post in the first page.

You just gotta go with what method your comfy with...and it might be hard at first, but it get's easier over time.

alright thanks for the help... i know i sound like a noob lol
 
Hi again,
I finally hitted my target time and my delay, I do the page flips, I fish, not even a nible... Does this affects the rng too? Means that I have to start over again?
 
Hi again,
I finally hitted my target time and my delay, I do the page flips, I fish, not even a nible... Does this affects the rng too? Means that I have to start over again?
You have to start over, and find a frame on which the encounter slot for the rod you are using says landed a fish. There is a post on the main page made by mingot that discusses this. It's not in the first one, but a few posts down.
 
Hi again,
I finally hitted my target time and my delay, I do the page flips, I fish, not even a nible... Does this affects the rng too? Means that I have to start over again?

What are you trying to get? Did you check that the frame you advanced to would catch the pokemon you wanted?
 
ClickC, I think it was Riddinkid's Eevee, Timid HP Ice/Grass? O_o that you said you also used for your Zapdos?
Do you remember the seed/Iv spread?
I tried searching through the threads/posts but couldn't find it.
If it's Grass then Dw, if it's ice then please answer, the timid spreads on excel sheet don't have Ice 70 =/

EDIT: also, if i'm abusing Zapdos, do I need a syncher before I talk to Oak?
 
Does changing the date affect what combo of SID/ID you're going to have?
I was curious cause when I had no result for a particular date, I changed and I suddenly got alot better results....tough it might just be luck..
 
Does changing the date affect what combo of SID/ID you're going to have?
I was curious cause when I had no result for a particular date, I changed and I suddenly got alot better results....tough it might just be luck..

Your ID and SID is based of the RNG when you are minimized into the game. Any spread on a different day can be gotten on another day just by changing the minutes and seconds. So no date is better, but in your case the day plus the delay yielded good results.
 
Your ID and SID is based of the RNG when you are minimized into the game. Any spread on a different day can be gotten on another day just by changing the minutes and seconds. So no date is better, but in your case the day plus the delay yielded good results.
Really? That's quite interesting.
Does that mean SID/ID could be calculated with that in mind, like if you hit a cartain delay on certain date and time it give you a certain SID/ID combo?
 
Really? That's quite interesting.
Does that mean SID/ID could be calculated with that in mind, like if you hit a cartain delay on certain date and time it give you a certain SID/ID combo?

Actually I have tried testing this, and probably some others, but we couldn't find any correlation between the ID and SID with the seed. Perhaps it is ran off the same RNG for wondercard PIDs, who knows. Until mingot takes an interest in it, which he won't, and looks at it under a debugger, it will remain unknown.
 
Actually I have tried testing this, and probably some others, but we couldn't find any correlation between the ID and SID with the seed. Perhaps it is ran off the same RNG for wondercard PIDs, who knows. Until mingot takes an interest in it, which he won't, and looks at it under a debugger, it will remain unknown.
Alright thanks.
 
If I'm fishing, and say, the spread I want is on frame 9, how many times do I advance the RNG? I haven't tried this before and I can't seem to find it in the OP.
 
If I'm fishing, and say, the spread I want is on frame 9, how many times do I advance the RNG? I haven't tried this before and I can't seem to find it in the OP.

Fishing's starting frame is 4, so two flips with a Roaming pokemon on your game should do it.
 
Alright, I'm getting ready to SR myself a Shaymin. Even with my year maxed out at 2099, I still have a delay higher than anything I've ever gotten before, so I'm going to try the emloop method, but I have a few questions.

1. Wasn't it said before that the value for delay is not directly correlated to seconds? I recall when I was very first calibrating my delay, I got the same delay at 14 and 15 seconds. If so, how does it work exactly?

2. Can someone please further explain the step 3.5 in Syberia's guide? I don't understand how having a different starting time can make it any easier to respond at 0:00:00.

3. I've heard conflicting reports on whether the Journal's opening page (the page that appears when you select "Journal" under "Key Items" and don't press any buttons) advances the frame by 2 or not... it does, correct?

Thanks!
 
Alright, I'm getting ready to SR myself a Shaymin. Even with my year maxed out at 2099, I still have a delay higher than anything I've ever gotten before, so I'm going to try the emloop method, but I have a few questions.

1. Wasn't it said before that the value for delay is not directly correlated to seconds? I recall when I was very first calibrating my delay, I got the same delay at 14 and 15 seconds. If so, how does it work exactly? The seconds are when you enter the game, while the delay is how many seconds, converted into frames per second, ~60. It is around 10 seconds for the game from the white screen after the game loads till when you hit continue.

2. Can someone please further explain the step 3.5 in Syberia's guide? I don't understand how having a different starting time can make it any easier to respond at 0:00:00. Can't help you here.

3. I've heard conflicting reports on whether the Journal's opening page (the page that appears when you select "Journal" under "Key Items" and don't press any buttons) advances the frame by 2 or not... it does, correct?
The first page the journal opens only advances by 2 if it has a caught pokemon on it, or defeated. If it doesn't, it doesn't advance.
Thanks!
 
1. Wasn't it said before that the value for delay is not directly correlated to seconds? I recall when I was very first calibrating my delay, I got the same delay at 14 and 15 seconds. If so, how does it work exactly?

The delay increases based on the amount of time spent waiting at the title screen before pressing A to continue, and does not correlate to the time of the DS, like you've seen. LightningFusion covered the rest.

2. Can someone please further explain the step 3.5 in Syberia's guide? I don't understand how having a different starting time can make it any easier to respond at 0:00:00.
Syberia in this step is describing how to make it so your target delay syncs better with emloop's timer. I personally never use emloop other than to calculate my delays, as I have better timing with my own stop watch. Using a stop watch is also much faster than setting your DS clock a minute behind in conjunction with emloop, but use whatever you feel is more comfortable.
 
Okay, thanks. After doing what he said, I only had 7 seconds to load my game. Once I add the 200 to my frame, do I need to press the button right under my delay and get a new seconds value to look up? If not, how do I allow myself more time?

EDIT: Even if I do that, I still only have 10 seconds... what should I do?
EDIT2: changed "minutes" to "seconds" :p
 
Okay, thanks. After doing what he said, I only had 7 minutes to load my game. Once I add the 200 to my frame, do I need to press the button right under my delay and get a new seconds value to look up? If not, how do I allow myself more time?

EDIT: Even if I do that, I still only have 10 seconds... what should I do?
Assuming you mean seconds, there...
Add even more to the frame.
If it helps, I prefer Sephirona's guide.
 
quick question about shaymin...got my oak's letter, now do I go to route 224, talk to Oak etc, follow shaymin, and THEN save right in front of it? i.e., are the IVs created when the battle starts (as is the case with most legendaries)? I would assume so but I don't want to mess it up. thanks
 
can you rng a wild pokemon so that it holds an item? such as, a staryu has a 5% chance of holding a star piece, can you use rng abuse so the staryu holds a star piece each time?
 
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