Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

@mattj: The advancement of the radio depends on the time. Somewhere in this thread I mapped out some times where it works consistant.
And yeah it does work although Radio or talking to your pokemon is way easier to get to your target frame and sweet scent then. There are some spreads for talking to your pokemon as well.

Thank you so very much for explaining this. It makes perfect sense now. I looked at what time my target frame happened to be in and it's in a time that you said would advance the frame by 0 which is what I experienced. I had no idea that the frame advancement was connected to time.

I would seriously appreciate it if that post of yours was pasted over in the Research Thread because while not many people post there, I do believe lots of people who are currently abusing HG/SS do read it and check up on it whenever there are any new posts. I for one do, and it would have helped a lot if that info had been there, because it would have been easy to find (no offence, please).

Thanks again! :D
 
Are the RNGs for all 3rd Gen games (namely FireRed and LeafGreen) like Emerald's in that they start at a certain seed and advance at a rate of 60 frames a second? If so, do they, like Emerald, have a starting seed of zero?
 
Are the RNGs for all 3rd Gen games (namely FireRed and LeafGreen) like Emerald's in that they start at a certain seed and advance at a rate of 60 frames a second? If so, do they, like Emerald, have a starting seed of zero?

This might be a better place to ask. Or PM Neo Syrex, cuz he's actually abused it before.
 
This might be a better place to ask. Or PM Neo Syrex, cuz he's actually abused it before.

This is good enough as it tells me that the game does advance like Emerald but gets different seeds to start out. This means I can SR a Mewtwo, and I won't get the same spreads every time :).
 
Okay, I've been trying to catch Shaymin using Method 1, target frame is 114. I SR, check the delay with the coin flip app, advance the RNG (114-1 = 113, so 128 steps followed by 54 journal flips) but when I catch it, the IVs match a target frame of 133. How is that possible? This has happened 3 times by now, I don't know how is the RNG advancing more than it should. Can someone help please?
 
Okay, I've been trying to catch Shaymin using Method 1, target frame is 114. I SR, check the delay with the coin flip app, advance the RNG (114-1 = 113, so 128 steps followed by 54 journal flips) but when I catch it, the IVs match a target frame of 133. How is that possible? This has happened 3 times by now, I don't know how is the RNG advancing more than it should. Can someone help please?

For starters, are you RNGing the TRU Shaymin Wondercard or the Flower Paradise Shaymin? Neither should be "Method 1". WC Shaymin is a Wondercard which is Method 1, -2 frames (IIRC), and the FP Shaymin is a Method J Poke.
 
For starters, are you RNGing the TRU Shaymin Wondercard or the Flower Paradise Shaymin? Neither should be "Method 1". WC Shaymin is a Wondercard which is Method 1, -2 frames (IIRC), and the FP Shaymin is a Method J Poke.

Flower Paradise Shaymin, didn't know it was Method J thanks. Do I need to use a sync or is it just optional?
 
Flower Paradise Shaymin, didn't know it was Method J thanks. Do I need to use a sync or is it just optional?

It's almost always "optional" but 99.9% of the time it gives you like 10 more easy frames to hit it on, plus sometimes they are nearly adjacent, so if you accidentally flip 1 page too many you still get the spread you want.
 
Anyone think there's much chance of us cracking the ARNG to allow nature abuse on Wonder Cards? RNGing for Arceus is going to take a long time, but if we might crack it, then I'll put it off until later.
 
Anyone think there's much chance of us cracking the ARNG to allow nature abuse on Wonder Cards? RNGing for Arceus is going to take a long time, but if we might crack it, then I'll put it off until later.

Just me personally, I've seen people ask this several times, but the answer's always been no. :P
 
are you allowed to change the date twice after figuring out what frame you hit
this stupid delay is getting annoying 626 i had no choice since the date i was on i couldnt change 1 date back then the journal wouldnt of popped up

damn it i keep hitting my best delay im getting sick of trying to hit this one delay now i want to change it to the date where it 622

so does changing the date again change what frame your on????
 
are you allowed to change the date twice after figuring out what frame you hit
this stupid delay is getting annoying 626 i had no choice since the date i was on i couldnt change 1 date back then the journal wouldnt of popped up

damn it i keep hitting my best delay im getting sick of trying to hit this one delay now i want to change it to the date where it 622

so does changing the date again change what frame your on????
Nope, changing your date does not change the frame, just the target delay. Moving NPCs (including ones found offscreen, I think) advance the frame. Changing it back one year raises the target delay by one, and forward one year reduces it by one. You can change your date as many times as you want, though. It may be helpful to set it back two or three years in the past and save there before even trying to hit any particular delay. That way, the journal will always open when you start the game.
 
Nope, changing your date does not change the frame, just the target delay. Moving NPCs (including ones found offscreen, I think) advance the frame. Changing it back one year raises the target delay by one, and forward one year reduces it by one. You can change your date as many times as you want, though. It may be helpful to set it back two or three years in the past and save there before even trying to hit any particular delay. That way, the journal will always open when you start the game.

what if its a 9 day difference?
would that affect hitting my delay
 
No, that would not affect the delay.

sweet

edit : wtf the journal didnt pop up after changing the date this sucks now i got recalibrate
and if you were saying save when i change date that wouldnt leave it on same frame since ive tried before

hmm i shall post this here

edit :ive just hit my delay again and when i hatched it
its characteristic is alert to sounds again wtf is going on
ive calibrated and hit frame 5 3 times in a row and both occasions the flips matched or doesnt the characteristic matter?? since the speed iv is supposed to be 0

someone please reply im really getting frustated at this rng abuse now
 
i tried getting a shiny egg with the shiny egg PID tab from time finder. i get a seed. i hit my seed. And it says that the coin flips and tapps are based on the fact that you verify your seed by doing ten coin flips. it didnt work...

heres what i did, maybe you will know what i did wrong.

step 1: saved my game on app 5, with 5 pokemon in my party, none of which had flame body.
step 2: synched DS to hit my seed.
step 3: started the game and flipped back from app 5 to 15 (not passing 6)
step 4: did the 10 flips en verified the seed. i hit it.
step 5: flipped from app 15 to 5 and than to app 6
step 6: did my taps
step 7: went from app 6 to app 15
step 8: did my flips
step 9: entered parents into daycare
step 10: cycled and got egg
step 11: Got a flame body ability poke from pokemon center cycled and hatched. no shiny.

where did i go wrong? im sure i did not miscount the tapps and flips. it was way too few a number to get it wrong. (14 and 5) so it has to be something id did in between.

anyone who can help me here?
 
sweet

edit : wtf the journal didnt pop up after changing the date this sucks now i got recalibrate
and if you were saying save when i change date that wouldnt leave it on same frame since ive tried before

hmm i shall post this here

edit :ive just hit my delay again and when i hatched it
its characteristic is alert to sounds again wtf is going on
ive calibrated and hit frame 5 3 times in a row and both occasions the flips matched or doesnt the characteristic matter?? since the speed iv is supposed to be 0

someone please reply im really getting frustated at this rng abuse now

Changing the date shouldn't change your frame, unless you're always saving. You need to move the date at least 2 days before or ahead of the current date on your DS. This will force the journal to pop up before you have to get the egg.

You could just look for a spread with the actual frame. Its easier for me just to hit the actual frame than advancing it.

@weavil: you need a full party of 6 pokemon when you're RNGing for a shiny egg pokemon. Another thing it seemed like you screwed up with is that you saved on one of the apps you need to use. If I remember correctly, you cannot do this cause it instantly screws up with the seed/frame/something XD.
 
if you sweet scent in the old chateu house, what is the monster frame?
as the article only has grass/water and caves.

would then that apply to anywhere else?
 
Yet another good day!

Dratini & Larvitar
Adamant
31/31/31/31/31/31

By the way, I have a question. Is there a way to search through multiple years to find a flawless method J spread, because I do not want to have to manually search through each year in an attempt to find what may not even exist. If not, can you at least think of implementing a feature to search through multiple years in the next release of RNG reporter.
 
Wasn't it said that the 2 bad IV'd parents can be bread and create an egg that has perfect of IV's and Nature?
I mean, that's what the Shiny egg method is for, right? You can take 2 parents with bad IV's and turn something good out of it.
 
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