Wi-Fi Blacklist: as of January 30th, 2014

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the video

Let's start taking into account damage dealt from gengar's shadow ball to scizor
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if we assume the player was using a
timid nature gengar, its ghost needed 252 SpA evs to do such damage to scizor with shadow ball, let me proof this:

Shadow ball to standard 248 hp/0 spd adamant scizor:

359 Atk vs 196 Def & 343 HP (80 Base Power): 79 - 93 (23.03% - 27.11%)

93 is exactly the damage took by ZX's scizor.

So, now we know that gengar needs AT LEAST a special attack stats of 359,
in order to do that damage to Scizor,
but,
it also menaged of surviving a pursuit, how is that possible???

The best spread for doing something similar would be this one:

Modest Nature, 100 Hp Evs, 252 Defence, 32 Speed (we need such speed evs + scarf to outspeed Jolteon, remember this) and 124 SpA evs.

yet, said gengar will barely survive:
591 Atk vs 219 Def & 286 HP (60 Base Power): 234 - 276 (81.82% - 96.50%)

Let's remembe he had already took 12.5% damage from Sr, so the mininum damage output possible was:
94.32%

I seriously doubt someone will use such a spread, specially when you lose to other scarfed pkm, it has very little sense, sadly we can't see gengar's HP exact number, it should be from 37 or less, but we can see that the red bar it's almost the same as scizor's, which is 60....


now, let's focus on the most suspicious pkm:


Suicune:


240 Evs Adamant nature Metagross' meteor smash to max Hp/Defence bold suicune:

402 Atk vs 361 Def & 404 HP (100 Base Power): 60 - 71 (14.85% - 17.57%)

That was about the same damage that suicune took,right?

but it assume suicune is running max HP + Max Def + bold nature,

In order to outspeed breelom it needs like 100 speed evs, (with bold nature) thus, the damage output should have been something like:

402 Atk vs 335 Def & 404 HP (100 Base Power): 64 - 76 (15.84% - 18.81%)

Still possible,
So far our Suicune evs MUST be the following:

Bold suicune eved with:
252 hp 158 def 100 speed (to fit the previous requirements)

It then hit a Jolteon with surf, let's see what the damage should be:


216 Atk vs 226 Def & 271 HP (95 Base Power): 99 - 117 (36.53% - 43.17%)

jolteon had 236 Hp in the video, so, after taking the surf he should have:

236-117= 119 hp left

Intead he had only 89

how this is possible?

If we consider a not boostin SpA nature, this is only possible usinga 252 SpA Evs.

Infact, a generic timid/bold suicune with max SpA would deal:

279 Atk vs 226 Def & 271 HP (95 Base Power): 127 - 150 (46.86% - 55.35%)

Notice:
236-150 = 86
, almost the damage our jolteon took.

So, the best suitable spread to have such a power and keeping suicune bulky is:

A modest Suicune,
with 252 hp, 96 speed, 152 SpA and 10 defence evs, would have fit said requirements, now,
let's do some more damage calculations with this spread:


Our metagros would have deal way more damage now with meteor smash:


402 Atk vs 268 Def & 404 HP (100 Base Power): 81 - 96 (20.05% - 23.76%)

But let's see go back to the moves who killed it:
It took various switches (two) and some leftovers recovery turns,
in the end it was left with 93.5% of its life and it faced an explosion + an outrage, surviving both, but this is impossible:

An explosion coming of a naive heatran, with 6 atk evs and no boosting item would have dealt:

217 Atk vs 134 Def & 404 HP (250 Base Power): 290 - 342 (71.78% - 84.65%)



An outrage coming off from 252 atk adamant flygon would have dealt to this suicune:

328 Atk vs 268 Def & 404 HP (120 Base Power): 159 - 187 (39.36% - 46.29%)

let's take into account just the minimun damage output possible:

39.36% + 71.78 % = 110, while our had just 93.5% of life less

Thus, it was impossible for a legit suicune to survive such hits
 
Adding Lessthanthreettar to the Battle Me hackers list for using illegal amounts of EVs.

Also adding jojo9196 to the blacklist for trading a hacked Porygon-Z and redistributing others' Pokemon without permission.
 
i was looking at the blacklist and i thought i would point out that
FC: 2063 0344 3721
King Sentret / DrinkDog - redistributing without permission on another site.
shouldn't be there.

fgtron didn't know that King Sentret / DrinkDog were the same person and accused him of distributing his stuff when he found his trade thread on wiipals.net

i let him know that they were in fact the same person and he was one of the people who got dist rights when fgtron first quit trading a while ago.

here is the thread (post #4):
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43700


after i informed fgtron that they were the same person, he said this:
lolol
I didn't even look at the date
and dr00 how am i supposed to remember an email about it forever ago
I'm not mister sober half the time im on here.
sorry about the waste in space then guys.
maybe i just missed all of you.
:0

this suggests to me that he withdrew his blacklist claim, so i don't know why he ended up being blacklisted.

reposting this because i didn't get a response last time and i see that he's still on the blacklist.

i may have missed another post and if so, i apologize.
 
After having his trade thread shut-down and being flagged for hacking and redis without permission jojo9196 had this to add. Was titled 'to bad'.
jojo9196 said:
im going to redis all your pokemon and you cant do anything about it

This was a pm, so I have a SS as proof. Please ban him, he clearly has no intention of following the rules here.

EDIT: I guess he still wasn't finished, just got this pm. This one was titled 'thats where your wrong'.
jojo9196 said:
i created a new account and they dont know it

Maybe he needs his IP banned?
 
After having his trade thread shut-down and being flagged for hacking and redis without permission jojo9196 had this to add. Was titled 'to bad'.


This was a pm, so I have a SS as proof. Please ban him, he clearly has no intention of following the rules here.

EDIT: I guess he still wasn't finished, just got this pm. This one was titled 'thats where your wrong'.


Maybe he needs his IP banned?
I checked the newest member, and I found somebody with the same numbers, somebody should check his IP, Lonewolf9196.
 
After having his trade thread shut-down and being flagged for hacking and redis without permission jojo9196 had this to add. Was titled 'to bad'.


This was a pm, so I have a SS as proof. Please ban him, he clearly has no intention of following the rules here.

EDIT: I guess he still wasn't finished, just got this pm. This one was titled 'thats where your wrong'.


Maybe he needs his IP banned?
He sent the same thing to me also.
 
Oh wow, just made my account today and I see someone with nearly the same username as mine on the blacklist.

Well I'm a different person, please do not confuse us.
 
There was a post somewhere around here about Dystro's Jolteon. Turns out I have one/it. Can't find the post; was there something wrong with it?
 
There was a post somewhere around here about Dystro's Jolteon. Turns out I have one/it. Can't find the post; was there something wrong with it?
There was a Hacked modded one being redistributed over the real one if that is the correct story im just going by memory of something i read about it.
you might have the hacked one
 
I would like to nominate deathslasx to be blacklisted. This guy broke the sleep clause two times in the same game. He put my ttar to sleep using breloom so I switched into my scizor. Then he put my scizor to sleep although he had already put my ttar to sleep. Near the end of the match he used spore on my latias although my ttar was still asleep. I sent him 3 pms telling him he broke the sleep clause, posted on the battle me forum, and I also warned him on his profile page that if he didn't answer me that I would blacklist him for violating the sleep clause.
 
To all of those who replied to ZX: The pokemon I used have funky EV spreads because they were bred for situations that I did not use them for me. I am not a breeder, so I don't have time to breed more pokemon lol but I will admit, after some extensive discussion with FriDanny, that CroCune I used IS hacked. I checked it's stats with Shoddy and inputted what I was told the EV spread was and it is waaaayyy too high. I assume it was a max 252 EV hack. It wasn't me because if it was, I honestly would just hack everything I want and not even bother trading or anything.
So again, I apologize for the hacked Cune. I am very embarassed...blegh.
And ZX93, I apologize for arguing that it was not hacked. That was my mistake man.
 
hate to do it, but CarterIII is using illegal hacks in his battles.

non-Lonely Umbreon in a Chesrish ball. =/

wow man that's some petty shit. You should at least talk to him instead of coming to the BL. If the stats are not bad thats not really illegal. thats how i see it.
 
Keep in mind that if you are caught with illegal Pokemon you will be blacklisted. Pay particular attention to move combinations and Pokeballs. If you use a Pokemon that is not in a normal Pokeball and then use an egg move you are in violation of this rule as smart players can and will use the absence of a normal Pokeball to predict a lack of egg moves. 3rd Generation tutored moves with 4th generation abilities (Counter/Superluck Absol comes to mind) are also not legal hacks.

From the Battle Me Rules.
 
wow man that's some petty shit. You should at least talk to him instead of coming to the BL. If the stats are not bad thats not really illegal. thats how i see it.
i did. he blew it off.

Deschain said:
Carterlll said:
Deschain said:
also, can you explain to me how a Cherish ball Umbreon is a "legit hack"?

because it doesnt effect anything
it's not a a legit hack man.

and then he never replied after that.
 
Not trying to butt in and whatnot, but some people do pay attention to what ball it pops out of in order to check for egg moves/event moves/nature/etc... For example, if a Weavile pops out of a Cherish ball, I'm preeeeety sure the only Cherish ball Weavile is the Worlds 09 Weavile. That being the case, it would have to be Jolly Natured, which means it can't 1HKO a Cress off of a Crit with Night Slash (etc, etc, etc...) It can make a difference in battle.
 
A quick question, would it be safest to just put everything in a Pokeball if we're going to use Legal Hacks?
 
A quick question, would it be safest to just put everything in a Pokeball if we're going to use Legal Hacks?
Not if it has any event moves. People just need to take the time to make sure they're using the right ball for their hack.
 
I want to know if the batteries of a ds die during a wifi battle is an intentional disconnect. If its not, I think it should be because the person knows their going to d/c pretty soon and can easily grab their charger. I really want to know if this a blacklistable offense because i think its a load of crap if a person doesnt bother to grab their charger and it just ends up wasting the opponents time
 
lol i switched the ball for you... are you happy...god damn man it has legal stats and everything and youre trying to get me on the blacklist because i put in a f-ing cherish ball...you have got to be kidding me...
 
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