Phantom Champion Z events

Good job I had the curiosity to click on this topic despite initially assuming that the news would have no competitive consequences whatsoever.

As I have said before, Flare Blitz would be an excellent addition for Entei, unlike Flareon, as it has the perfect stat distribution for the move. I can certainly see this pushing Entei up to UU standard finally, but it won't be OU still by a long shot.

I can see two viable sets for UU already that utilize it. One is a mixed wallbreaker set already mentioned, using Flare Blitz / HP Grass or Solarbeam / Stone Edge / Return or Sunny Day. Having a viable move to OHKO Chansey in the sun in particular is a huge benefit. Having another good offensive Moltres check in the metagame would probably come second.

The other is a RestTalk set using Flare Blitz / Roar or Toxic / Rest / Sleep Talk to give Arcanine some competition in this role. A reliable and powerful move like Flare Blitz is great for this kind of set, and Entei's superior overall defenses, attack and speed somewhat make up for the lack of Intimidate. Pressure can actually be a useful ability for such a defensive set.

It all depends on the nature it gets as far as what sets will be most viable.
 
Hooray! Something other than Fire Suck Fang to deal damage with! Maybe with this Entei will be UU, doubtful but who knows, base 115 Attack stat is pretty impressive with Flare Blitz. If only they could give Flareon Flare Blitz...... ^__^
 
Great, now the programmers will have to make it so only shiny Entei can have Flare Blitz.

(yay)
 
Honestly, Entei getting Flare blitz is awesome. Now if there was a no recoil 95/90 base power fire type physical move, that would be better for those that hate recoil.

Sheer cold suicune is lols for the metagame since 1hko moves are banned.
Zap Cannon Raikou *Might* see some uses in a gravity team. Its 82% accurate in Gravity and backs 150 Base power after stab with a 50% chance of paralysis. Other than that, its mostly useless unless you want a riskier version of thunder with higher paralysis chance.

Still, I wish Flareon got Flare Blitz. But if it does, Entei might be outclassed by it since, while Entei has speed with 100 base speed, Flareon has 130 base attack. Though entei doesn't need scarf to outspeed things, but Flareon has quick attack.

Still, glad to see entei finally gets something useful.
 
Flareon couldn't use Flare blitx nearly as well as Entei because Flareon would die way faster from recoil if the opponet didn't kill him first, and as you said, Flareon just doesn't have the speed.
 
If OHKO moves are tested, Suicune could possibly find itself tearing apart defensive with Rest / Sleep Talk / Sheer Cold / Surf. Fuck it, give him Leppa Berry. But Smogon tests at a snails pace, so this won't be an issue any time soon.


Flare Blitz Entei is pretty cool though.
 
Hmm...A physical Fire attack on one of the two that desperately needed it. I'm quite happy for all of the Entei lovers out there, you got a decent addition to it's roster. Only concern is that it will turn out to be a fixed Adamant or the like.

Raikou with Zap Cannon....Bit odd. Gravity teams may see some more use thanks to a Thunder with Thunder Wave attached to it. Otherwise, I don't see much use for the shiny Raikou.

Suicune with Sheer Cold, on the other hand, might find it's way onto Wifi in a few sets, but I doubt Shoddy would see much use for it. Besides, OHKO moves have really crappy accuracy anyway.
 
omegamewtwo said:
Zap Cannon Raikou *Might* see some uses in a gravity team. Its 82% accurate in Gravity and backs 150 Base power after stab with a 50% chance of paralysis.
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Zap Cannon has 180 Base Power with STAB not 150. I'd still probably use Thunder on a Gravity team since it has 100 accuracy and the same power. Most of the stuff you'd hit Zap Cannon with are either bulky and slow (and thus don't care much about paralysis) or will be OHKO'd. Thunder's 30% chance of Paralysis isn't exactly bad either.
 
Using Zap Cannon on something like Raikou is rather foolish. It's more of a desperate attempt for Pokemon like Registeel to maim Gyarados/sweeper with paralysis and respectable damage. Something like Raikou is going to want to dish out more damage, which Thunderbolt will do more consistently.
 
Well, seeing as Entei has higher attack and HP than the most popular fire types in OU, along with good speed and respectable defences, I think that Entei could probably get some use out of being in OU. His move pool isn't too horrible either, having Stone Edge and Iron Head along with Fire Blitz gives him at least neutral coverage on all the OU pokemon except Swampert, (which Entei shouldn't be out on anyways) Along with hitting 7 types with super-effective. Entei also had access to Toxic, Will-o-Wisp, Roar, Protect, Reflect, and Rain Dance/Sunny Day, which opens up some support options for him. He may not be the best at everything, but I'll be darned if there isn't potential.
 
Flare Blitz+Lava Plume on the same set.. hell yeah! Entei could afford to go special and put a massive dent in Blissey.
 
I don't think entei will get into OU any time soon, however, he might get himself to UU, still aranine is usually better due to ability, E.Speed and morning sun.
However, lets see what happens next.
 
Maybe Flare Blitz will be a new altercation for Gen V. Then again it would make getting Entei slightly redundant but there is the fact its SHINY! ;)
 
HiddenDragon72 said:
Maybe Flare Blitz will be a new altercation for Gen V. Then again it would make getting Entei slightly redundant but there is the fact its SHINY! ;)
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Which is actually horrible, as it means this Entei will have a set nature. Now we have to pray it won't be shit like Quirky or worse, Quiet.
 
It will be interesting to see if entei sees some usage. I think that it may be better than a lot of people think. Stealth rock is not as common in UU as in OU and Entei is faster and bulkier than Arcannine and Moltres. It also is now able to beat Chansey because of flare blitz. Add to the equation leftovers and some other good move options and you have a lesser physical version of Raikou. I think Entei will be a solid UU pokemon.
 
I pray that Arcanine still outclasses it, because then I can wreak havoc in NU with 4 DIFFERENT FIRE-TYPES. That will be utter insanity. It'll be like a mini-competition of their own, because they all have their own niches. Charizard is the physical booster, Magmortar is the wallbreaker, Typhlosion is the Special hole-puncher, and now Entei is the Physical hole-puncher. Which will win? Who will leave?
 
I'm a little confused about this--have any of the movies since, like, the second one actually been released in US theaters? Aside from those of us in Japan, how is anyone going to get these pokemon?
 
Antar said:
I'm a little confused about this--have any of the movies since, like, the second one actually been released in US theaters? Aside from those of us in Japan, how is anyone going to get these pokemon?
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The same way we always get these pokemon: Store events.

The special Deoxys, Darkrai, Shaymin, PCPichu, Arceus, etc were all released at Toys R US or Gamestop.

I wonder how they limit what dog you get, though. It seems you can only get one of them?
 
I'm pretty sure it will be distributed via Wondercard and people will find the AR code for it and some hotshot's going to be RNGing flawless versions of them.
 
hhjj said:
Entei: @ Life Orb
124 Atk, 196 Spe, 188 SpA
Naive

Eruption
Stone Edge
Flare Blitz
Iron Head / filler
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Life Orb and Flare Blitz recoil make Eruption nearly useless. Overheat will have more consistant power, even if it does drop after one use. Ofcourse, you shouldn't even need more than one Overheat because you still have Flare Blitz.
 
Flare Blitz makes Entei less blatantly inferior to Arcanine, but even with its better stats and access to some good moves, Arcanine still has a lot of key advantages that'll make it better for most uses.
 
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