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Pokemon VGC 2010 DATES / rules announced for the US!
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yes im getting really mad at that. but i think thats the lotto solution not many people will go with they cant plan for it.lol kinda a bad idea i say 2-3 weeks before the first tourny starts is when we will get our locations.
What browser did you use? Mine says I can't connect to that address.
I think maybe that because everyone is expecting rain and making anti-rain teams, we might not see to many. There will be 2 types of people there: noobs and Smogon/SkarmBliss (Competitive) players. The noobs are not to be worried about; (although one might have an idea that is so stupid it works cuz no one sees it coming) and all the competitive peeps are worried about rain teams. I really could see everyone with anti-rain teams and just a few rain teams
That is why you build a team that can work no matter what the situation, and work further to idiot-proof it. I have done that with all of my teams. All 4 of the teams I've built have an auto-weather Pokemon on them (Kyogre or Abomasnow), but I'm not hampered by losing my weather. My teams are able to play in Sun, Rain, Sand (which I admit is rare this year), AND Hail.
This is a bad example since it was an idiot on PBR who used Kyogre, Darkrai, Mewtwo and Arceus, but I had two battles with him while testing an older team I revived.
In the first battle, I had Metagross protect while Dialga used Trick Room. After I did that, he forfeited.
I got him again when I looked for another battle, and he changed his leads - Kyogre and Darkrai; the Darkrai had Taunt on it. He did stop me from using Trick Room though. While the guy was a noob, my team was designed to be able to handle shit like that.
My other Trick Room team is a Hail variant, but it doesn't need Trick Room to be active either. I am perfectly capable of playing in and out of Trick Room on both teams, and have had to do so on multiple occasions.
If you are playing trick room, do you run a fast pokemon or just 4 slow ones, I know smeargle is a good partner to have to ensure trick room happens, but what are some other tactics that can be used if you do not get off trick room??????
Actually I have found that sand is quite common, and TTar is a more common presence in the finals of japanese regionals than groudon is.
I have a very strong feeling that rain will be pretty uncommon, but don't take my word for it.
I'm afraid some noob is going to come a long and abuse Roar of Time. I only have one defensive and bulky Pokemon......
I still need to know how to sign up for the VGC.....Do we just arrive, or do we have to make an account for it (like last/the year before)?
I know last year, Hippowdon and Garchomp were abused, but I have yet to see, or even hear, about sand this year....In the videos I have seen, Hail and TR seem to be the most common.
That is the best way to go this year, IMO. All my teams also do that (although I haven't tested them fully because IVs are slowing me down, but...).
I'm afraid some noob is going to come a long and abuse Roar of Time. I only have one defensive and bulky Pokemon......
I still need to know how to sign up for the VGC.....Do we just arrive, or do we have to make an account for it (like last/the year before)?
In previous years, Trick Room teams were built on the "Ensure Trick Room gets up, then sweep the crap out of them" strategy. Snorlax and Meta were chosen due to their versatility and overall bulkiness and power. They were good tanks out of Trick Room, so they're better in Trick Room. In this year, however, there's a whole lot more to be prepared for, and you can't always expect Trick Room to stay up. In short, make sure your pokemon are slow, but can be usable outside of Trick Room. For example, Abomasnow could use Ice Shard, while Dialga still works as a tank. You can always run a fast poke as your last pokemon, but that's REALLY risky. Similarly, you can run an exploder plus Trick Room, but that only works if you're like Dusknoir+Azelf/Mewtwo.
Well, it impossible to completely "idiot-proof" a team, so you couldn't have idiot proofed all your teams 100%; just proofed them as best as you can. There will always be a team out there that will either use the luckier moves, have Roar of Time that KOs your Pokemon, or just has a team of 4 pokemon that counter yours right off the bat. That's why we just have to build a team as best as we can and hope and do the best we possibly can.
I think that people are too worried about what kind of teams everybody else will be using. Yes, there will be rain teams, and yes, there will be other kinds of teams. Just make sure that you prepare for major threats, and you should have a better shot at winning rather than using a team of Swampert/Bannete/Exeguttor/Lugia
True enough. I'm not terrible worried about random shit, or shedinja. My teams can handle all of that, but there's no point in worrying about what others are going to run. 90% of the people you'll run into at regionals are going to be complete morons - level 39 Leafeon, Fly Lugia/Rayquaza, etc.
My biggest fears are Smeargle (just plain annoying) and Mewtwo (due to his speed.) Mewtwo's handled by priority, Swift Swim/Chlorophyll (depending on team), and Trick Room, so it's not a big deal. Sleep spam is fucking annoying, so I'll probably go with Chesto on my Metagross before the actual VGC.
And that link works for you?
I use 4 slow ones. The leads can get Trick Room set up no matter what and then butter up the opponent by really screwing up their strategies and then denting their leads to be finished off once one goes down, a suicide lead. The backs are meant to counter different things while being difficult to counter themselves, being able to finish off weakened opponents with ease while keeping up an extremely fast pace so Trick Room won't die.
Yeah, it worked perfectly. But if it just completely disagrees with your computer, buying an AR and hopping on IRC is just as beneficial as NBS honestly.
Hm. I've been playing doubles since 2008 and I have yet to see a foolproof Trick Room opener. Given that the move has -7 priority, there is ALWAYS a way to stop Trick Room from coming up. If you fight a lead that can prevent Trick Room with four slow Pokemon on your team, it will be a very uphill battle to say the least.
That's debatable... I hate that you revealed my newest team, but I will say that team is very powerful.
What are you talking about, Fly Rayquaza is too good to be used...
I dunno, I think everyone will play into the rain idea and sort of disregard the attempts of potential anti-weather teams and just go for it, which sort of helps the anti-weather team users in the long run since they can sort of plan for that and be prepared when the time comes.
Though I want people to use what works to make it good competition, it will suck if every other player as a Kyogre and Toxicroak/Ludicolo/Palkia, etc, or some sort of Smeargle thing going.
I dunno, I think everyone will play into the rain idea and sort of disregard the attempts of potential anti-weather teams and just go for it, which sort of helps the anti-weather team users in the long run since they can sort of plan for that and be prepared when the time comes.
Though I want people to use what works to make it good competition, it will suck if every other player as a Kyogre and Toxicroak/Ludicolo/Palkia, etc, or some sort of Smeargle thing going.
It's all in Follow Me. Use that if there are two Taunt/Fake Out users or a ghost one. If not Follow Me.
Ummm, Imprison bypasses Follow Me, since Imprison targets THE USER. If you want to ensure Trick Room gets set up, you'd have to Taunt their Imprison user (and since most of the time it's Dusknoir, you can't Fake Out it) or you have to use Imprison yourself. Doing all of this just to set up Trick Room is annoying, and almost a waste of space. Man, if only the ImprisonClops team from JAA were still viable....
Raqauza > Groudon > Kyorge
That is running through my head when I am pick weather control. Raqauza says no. And Groudon being slower sets the weather.
Comments? Thoughts?
That is running through my head when I am pick weather control. Raqauza says no. And Groudon being slower sets the weather.
Comments? Thoughts?
I would love to RNG abuse for my own shiny mix set Rayquaza but I need a Kyorge (Soul Silver Rayquaza).
I want something of my own on my trade thread. lol I just bought a new game and got back into pokemon.
*sorry to get off topic*
*sorry to get off topic*
Actually, depending on how you use them, Kyogre = Groudon (debatable) >>>>>>>>>> Rayquaza.
Most Kyogre won't run Scarf because of Groudon - if they do, the Kyogre will always be in the back of your party. On my Rain/Goodstuffs team, I prefer Modest since it's neutral speed and allows me to laugh at Jolly Groudon if my opponent happens to have it in the back. Adamant Groudon is a 50/50, and against Brave, I still have access to Ice Beam and Grass Knot.
Teams that use Groudon are more likely to use him as a lead, since that automatically gives the Chlorophyll boost. Knowing that, it's easy to switch Kyogre in and smack Groudon with a Surf. :)
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