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I just tried Breeding RNG here in my HG, but using the ID and SID from my Pearl cart.
I did checked the HGSS Shiny Egg checkbox.
It says in the first page of this thread that going to either the Union Room or Wifi trade will reseed the IRNG into an unknown value.
What does it mean?
If I trade the egg into my Pearl game, does it mean it will lose its shininess?
 
DarkChaos (HCZ) said:
Save in an area with lv 49+ pkmn
Sync your ds to a clock

(repeat here)
when it become the next mintue, softreset and quickly press A until you hit A on the continue screen.
Capture A high lv pokemon
input the data from the pokemon in the rngreporter inital seed finder
record the delay and seconds from that seed
repeat all steps under the repeat time ten times.

When you get a consistent second and delays that are not to far off you finished.

As for the delay, you have to use pikatimer or emloop
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Thanks! Unforunatly, however I saved in the place where you get the legendary pokemon from the event arceus. but I do have more then one of them so I could get a non-RNG abused giratina and come back for an RNG abused Dialga.
 
Emily said:
I just tried Breeding RNG here in my HG, but using the ID and SID from my Pearl cart.
I did checked the HGSS Shiny Egg checkbox.
It says in the first page of this thread that going to either the Union Room or Wifi trade will reseed the IRNG into an unknown value.
What does it mean?
If I trade the egg into my Pearl game, does it mean it will lose its shininess?
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The egg will look non-shiny when it hatches, but it will be shiny when you check the status screen. (Yes, it will still be shiny in battle, I just know you're gonna ask.)

Don't worry about the Union Room\IRNG thing. Nobody has ever brought it up because nobody goes trading in the middle of RNG manipulation.
 
I did my flips to check I'd hit my seed, then went into the Union Room to play with some friends, then put an egg in the Daycare Centre and did the right number of advancements, but it wasn't shiny!

Yeah, pretty unlikely.
 
Just out of curiosity, what happens if I call Prof. Elm when I've only have E and K but no P? If that makes sense. In that case, would he advance the frame like normal? or would he be inconsistent or do absolutaly nothing?
 
FireBlaster said:
Just out of curiosity, what happens if I call Prof. Elm when I've only have E and K but no P? If that makes sense. In that case, would he advance the frame like normal? or would he be inconsistent or do absolutaly nothing?
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Nothing happens as far as I know. I believe his response will be the same every time in that case, and the frame will not advance.
 
mingot said:
Either go for a lower frame or save before each egg and take/hatch each egg. Frames skip. We don't know why. It will happen.



Everything.

Thats not how it works with HGSS.

You are going to have to use the time finder with "Shiny Egg" and "HGSS Shiny Egg" selected. You will then need to hit your target time and delay, and get as many eggs as necessary. Get as low a frame as possible. One is best.

Also, the "breeding HGSS" method is for IVs in hgss and has nothing to do with shiny eggs.
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Ah I see. Thank you!
 
OmegaDonut said:
Nothing happens as far as I know. I believe his response will be the same every time in that case, and the frame will not advance.
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On the contrary, I've noted that he WILL say something different and that it seems like its more like the coin flip app only in HGSS. I belive it may be something worth testing but i'm not sure.
 
FireBlaster said:
Just out of curiosity, what happens if I call Prof. Elm when I've only have E and K but no P? If that makes sense. In that case, would he advance the frame like normal? or would he be inconsistent or do absolutaly nothing?
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initially I said that it DOESN'T advance... it turns out I was incorrect and that it in fact, DOES advance the frames... but iirc... the message will always be the same and you will NOT be able to verify the seed that way (I have tried this with RNGing my Raikou and had success)
 
FireBlaster said:
Just out of curiosity, what happens if I call Prof. Elm when I've only have E and K but no P? If that makes sense. In that case, would he advance the frame like normal? or would he be inconsistent or do absolutaly nothing?
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Actually, as it was found out, it works pretty fine with two messages, as long as they are E and K too. P is not that needen. mingot will implement this feature later in RNG Reporter too, also we got some new information about Phone Seed Verifying too. Just check Research Thread too.
OmegaDonut said:
Nothing happens as far as I know. I believe his response will be the same every time in that case, and the frame will not advance.
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Check Research Thread we got new information about this;)

PS: Pokewalker is RNGable, just to let you guys know!XD
 
What is the maximum delay before it loops around to 0 (assuming the year is 2000)? I assume it's 65535 (maximum 2-byte number); can anyone confirm this?
 
hi guys. ok i'm breeding in emerald and im going for frame 9970

i've been hitting my target all over the place but i hit a frame about 3-4 times. I don't know what the number it is but i do know the IVs of the pokemon at level 100
they are - 21 1 4 31 10 20 (hp atk def satk sdef spd)

the IVs of parent A - 0 21 14 16 13 0
the IVs of parent B - 30 31 20 31 10 6

i've checked that everything is where it should be. Could someone please let me know which frame I am hitting because i've been looking through all the frames, even the split frames, and I can not find the frame that gives me those IVs for the pokemon at level 100; the pokemon is swampert

i really need to know so that I can adjust my time. By the way is there a better clock application than the emloop one? because i am using emloop and i've heard that it is not so great?
 
winzev said:
i don't really know about it, but at my egg RNG i also got frame like that, keep changing ( mine is around 7, 8, and 9 )
But i actually just tried it several times, and got my target.
I think you should try on the most common frame :)
If it's not your target, then just keep restarting your ds ^^
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The Problem i got with this is.
Even if i hit my seed and get the coinflips right i cannot be sure if the frame is right and so ill have to check IVs on the egg trough using rare candys.
Which woll effectively make me loose about 40-60 Rare Candys.
 
Romsstar said:
PS: Pokewalker is RNGable, just to let you guys know!XD
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OMG!! Really!!?? :D How can I do that? I have three rare Pikachus catched so, before I transfer them to the game.

And I ask this for like... the 4th time? :(

Rahxen said:
I want to abuse my ID on an original Diamond game, what's its regular delay to be able to calibrate well with pikatimer, and, had someone already abused its ID on DPPt?? I only see stuff about HG/SS -.-
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I don't have platinum, and I dont want to use roms (that's why I bought the Diamond game, I couldn't find a mint Platinum) :( Thanks in advice.
 
Rahxen said:
OMG!! Really!!?? :D How can I do that? I have three rare Pikachus catched so, before I transfer them to the game.

And I ask this for like... the 4th time? :(



I don't have platinum, and I dont want to use roms (that's why I bought the Diamond game, I couldn't find a mint Platinum) :( Thanks in advice.
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Check RNG Research Thread
 
My latest RNG catches involving sweet scent in HG/SS have proved I can RNG for such even when there are uncontrollable NPCs around and without necessarily using an AR on my SS cart which I'm keeping AR free for VGC purposes. If anybody wants me to document how I go about doing it please let me know. For starters, I use Romsstar's seed verifier, Wichu's PokeRNG & the RNG Reporter 7.5 along with an Excel Spreadsheet for the rest.
 
RNG Reporter 8.10 Released.

New in Version 8.10
- Fixed issue where open search on the seed finder could return an incorrect seed.
- Add odd/even only filtering to the seed to time dialog
- Added custom delay range to Stat Seed Finder
 
What's the best time to RNG for Latios in SoulSilver - when you first meet Steven or when you beat Lance to respawn all roamers? I'm guessing the first one but I'd rather ask here first.
 
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask, but...

I've just done my Initial Calibration Phrase on Platinum are these results OK?

Seconds Delay
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15 600
14 598
15 606
14 612
15 604
15 606
15 608
15 608
15 608
15 604
15 612
15 608
15 606
15 604
15 606

Should I keep doing it or are these fine?
 
You hit 608 5 times, 606 4 times, 3 times 604. So your delay range is about 600-610. If that is enough for you (it would for me) then it should be enough^^
 
Pehu said:
You DO know that you can already ABUSE the ID/SID at the beginning of the game, and that RNG Reporter already has a way to find the SID using only the ID and the game start time (to the seconds), right?
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Yes, I do. The reason I was asking is not because I can't start a new game and determine its ID and SID that way, but because I was curious as to whether the SID of an existing game could be determined via that method.
 
hey can someone please help me out?

ok i'm breeding in emerald and im going for frame 9970

i've been hitting my target all over the place but i hit a frame about 3-4 times. I don't know what the frame number is but i do know the IVs of the pokemon at level 100
they are - 21 1 4 31 10 20 (hp atk def satk sdef spd)

the IVs of parent A - 0 21 14 16 13 0
the IVs of parent B - 30 31 20 31 10 6

i've checked that everything is where it should be. Could someone please let me know which frame I am hitting because i've been looking through all the frames, even the split frames, and I can not find the frame that gives me those IVs for the pokemon at level 100; the pokemon is swampert

i really need to know so that I can adjust my time. By the way is there a better clock application than the emloop one? because i am using emloop and i've heard that it is not so great?
 
callforjudgement said:
Yes, I do. The reason I was asking is not because I can't start a new game and determine its ID and SID that way, but because I was curious as to whether the SID of an existing game could be determined via that method.
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But that is exactly what I said, isn't it? If we can already ABUSE it, and Pandora's Box even has a way to find out which SID you got when you started the game, if you have the details of that new game, I don't see the point of your question.

You NEED to know the details of when you started the game, at least to the minute, and you need to pretty much know the delay and seconds to be able to be sure about the SID using that method.
 
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