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I think my team will do decently, its a trick room team, but does not necessarily need trick room. Its bulky enough to take hits. I also rain teams aren't a problem because with TR swift swim now equals slowest thing ever. I can work around hail and I do not see sunny day to be a huge problem. My team can take out a shininja. Also scarf groudon or scarfogre aren't a problem in TR because they now are slow as dirt. I guess another TR team could be a possible threat, but we'll see. Am I forgetting any gimmicks or possible problems?
 
Hmmm, wouldn't Counter Blissey be pretty awesome, what with it being able to take all those special attacks goign around and kill those obviously going for a physical attack.
 
Are you suggesting using blissey or the threat of a blissey. My only physical can OHKO a blissey and my specials can really hurt it. If you are suggesting using one then that involves getting rid of one of my members of my rounded team. It just wouldn't fit.
 
@Werecario: I am pretty sure he's just saying that as general comment, not relating to your post.

(Just from what I've seen only - so take it however you wish) Most decent non-Trick Room teams are not really running any particular weather as a main theme, because weather just changes so easily. I.e. most teams, even if they have one or more than one weather controller, are not running full rain/sun/hail/etc. teams (rain is a bit of exception just because it's the most common and powerful). In other words, most good teams will be good stuffs teams with the exception of Trick Room, and rightly so because Trick Room is not a "weather" that can be changed as easily as Sun/Rain/Hail/Sand.

Without knowing your team, it'd probably be hard for anyone to really see what problems your team might encounter (and even knowing your team, it might not be obvious).

One thing that stood out for me though (your team might have a solution for this already but it's just not clear since I do not know your team), is that you are saying that swift swimmers wouldn't be a problem because Trick Room will be up. At the same time you are saying your team does not necessarily rely on Trick Room (suggesting that you might not reliably get trick room up?). What if your opponent was able to prevent your Trick Room while having their rain abuse attacker out?
 
It might pose as a threat. Ummm... Interesting. I do not have any weather changes either, well I guess I have to hope that my pokemon are bulky enough to live. All of them are ev trained in either def, sp def or hp, or combo of the three. I do not really see TR being a problem to get out though. The only way that I foresee it not getting out is if it is imprisoned at the beginning, in which case I would have to ko that pokemon. My TR'er is not a common TR pokemon, in fact it has to hold an iron ball or it is screwed.
 
I was looking on the official site at the 2nd through 4th place prizes at regionals, and read this:

"A $300 travel allowance (including an additional $300 travel allowance for players under 18) to participate in the Pokémon Video Game National Championships."

I'm going to be 17 at the time I enter the event in Seattle. However, before nationals role around I will have turned 18. I'm wondering whether or not I'd get the extra $300 if I were to place within the top 4. It doesn't specify when you have to be younger than 18 in order to receive the additional money. Has anyone encountered this last year/know the answer?
 
J-Leo-L said:
I was looking on the official site at the 2nd through 4th place prizes at regionals, and read this:

"A $300 travel allowance (including an additional $300 travel allowance for players under 18) to participate in the Pokémon Video Game National Championships."

I'm going to be 17 at the time I enter the event in Seattle. However, before nationals role around I will have turned 18. I'm wondering whether or not I'd get the extra $300 if I were to place within the top 4. It doesn't specify when you have to be younger than 18 in order to receive the additional money. Has anyone encountered this last year/know the answer?
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I have a similar dilemma, except that I am 17 and will be 17 at Nationals (I am playing in the Nationals LCQ). However, by the time Worlds takes place, I will be 18. I am unsure whether or not I will be able to bring a legal guardian with me to Worlds should I win a trip.
 
Yeah, I for sure won't be bringing a guardian to Nationals, which may make them even more reluctant to give me additional money.

I've been trying to track down an "official contest rules" deal for this, where everything from A to Z is spelled out, but so far I haven't found anything. I could have sworn they had one last year...
 
To tell the truth who under 18 is going to get to the Top 4 places anyway? Maybe Top 16, and a Top 8, but, I just see them later losing to an older person. Pretty sure you would have to be real good at it. Or plain out lucky.
 
Timess said:
To tell the truth who under 18 is going to get to the Top 4 places anyway? Maybe Top 16, and a Top 8, but, I just see them later losing to an older person. Pretty sure you would have to be real good at it. Or plain out lucky.
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I don't see what age has to do with skill in this game. We have a lot of talented 13 - 17 year olds on the site.
 
Okay, so I've been giving some though to a VGC Giratina build, and this is what I've come up with, partially based on a build I found on another forum:

Giratina / Impish (+Def, -SpA) / Leftovers
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Shadow Force / Claw / Sneak
Outrage / Dragon Claw
Will-o-Wisp
Protect
EVs: 252 Atk, 252 SpD, 4 Def

This is primarily a defensive set, designed to hold its own against the hardest hits in the metagame (Mewtwo can't even 2HKO this guy with Ice Beam or Shadow Ball, if I did the calcs right).

Protect is there for prediction, and Will-o-Wisp cripples physical attackers. For attack, I go with my STAB choices. Shadow Sneak would probably be my choice for the priority, and I'd probably go with Dragon Claw for the flexibility--getting locked into Outrage doesn't sound fun.

Would this work?
 
It would probably be better if you go a whole team and posted a RMT page. It would be easier to judge. A pokemon may look good by itself but if it is paired with other certain pokemon it may suck. Once we can see a full team we can judge it better.
 
Question:

I'm running a Metagross as my fourth VGC Pokemon with the other three being Mewtwo, Weavile and Palkia.


[FONT=Arial, serif]Metagross [/FONT][FONT=Arial, serif]@ Leftovers[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, serif]Ability: Clear Body[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, serif]Nature: Impish[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, serif]Evs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Sp. Def[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, serif]-Meteor Mash[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, serif]-Earthquake[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, serif]-Protect[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, serif]-Rock Slide[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, serif][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, serif]My issue is whether or not I should stick with Impish or go with Adamant. Thoughts? Or a better nature than those two altogether?[/FONT]

EDIT: Sorry about the weird coding stuff, but I'm posting this quickly and don't have time to delete it all.
 
Timess said:
To tell the truth who under 18 is going to get to the Top 4 places anyway? Maybe Top 16, and a Top 8, but, I just see them later losing to an older person. Pretty sure you would have to be real good at it. Or plain out lucky.
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I respectfully disagree. Both last year, and back at JAA in 2006, I beat at least one person who was in their 20's each time. Age isn't synonymous with the amount of time and care one has taken to prepare for these events.

Honestly, the attitude that one brings into this event accounts for more than age. If one comes in thinking, "Oh no, I'm horrible! If I meet someone older than me I'm done for!" odds are that's exactly what will happen.

Last year's VGC was the first time I entered a tournament with real knowledge of the game mechanics (EVs, IVs, natures...). I thought to myself beforehand "I'm not the most experienced battler in the world, but I am going to make it into the top 16." And that's what happened.

My mistake was that I should have replaced "top 16," with "top 4." If you really want to win, you have to come in believing you can win. You can't go, "Oh, I hope I win. I hope I get lucky and don't run into anyone tough." If you do this, you've already defeated yourself.
 
J-Leo-L said:
I respectfully disagree. Both last year, and back at JAA in 2006, I beat at least one person who was in their 20's each time. Age isn't synonymous with the amount of time and care one has taken to prepare for these events.

Honestly, the attitude that one brings into this event accounts for more than age. If one comes in thinking, "Oh no, I'm horrible! If I meet someone older than me I'm done for!" odds are that's exactly what will happen.

Last year's VGC was the first time I entered a tournament with real knowledge of the game mechanics (EVs, IVs, natures...). I thought to myself beforehand "I'm not the most experienced battler in the world, but I am going to make it into the top 16." And that's what happened.

My mistake was that I should have replaced "top 16," with "top 4." If you really want to win, you have to come in believing you can win. You can't go, "Oh, I hope I win. I hope I get lucky and don't run into anyone tough." If you do this, you've already defeated yourself.
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I just finished reading Alaka's warstory, makes me think about it again. But for some reason I am intimidated by the differences in age,plus all the Smogon players as well. But guess you're right, what's the much difference they'll have over me. I'm not the best, and pretty sure, I'm bad at what I do, just compared to everyone with the RNGs and top tier teams, what to do but hope. Anyway, I'm gonna stop whining and need to get my team in order.

Your sig says you topped in Seattle? Hey, guess, I can see you there then.
 
I know what you mean. It is easy to see someone older than you and think that they're somehow more experienced. But as I said before, you just have to keep in mind that a greater age doesn't neccesarily mean a greater level of experience.

And yeah, I will be in Seattle next week. It would be cool to meet up with some people. My pic is posted in the photo album, and I'll probably be the only one there still wearing a blue JAA t-shirt.
 
As someone who is 23, I can say, if you're a competent battler and have spent a good deal of time preparing your team, you don't really have much to worry about from people who are older.

I have literally been playing Pokemon since Pokemon Red.

EVs, I only learned about a few years ago, IVs, maybe a year or two ago. I still can't RNG, and my best breeding results are passable at best. My Shoddy rating is less than 1000, and I have yet to compete in a single tournament.

I'm not saying that all "old fogies" are gonna be as atrocious as I am, but what I am saying is that age is not really going to correlate with skill, IMO.
 
Age doesn't matter at all imo. I've also been playing pokemon since blue and red, and i was literally 5 years old. 10 years later, i've been playing competitively for years, don't RNG but been breeding for IVS and EV training for about 2 years. Wifi wise, i can beat 8/10 people, reguardless of age, at OU.
The only part about VGC is how we use protect so much more, and i'm not used to the ubers at all >_>
 
eh, I don't even have a team yet... I might just last minute my team like last year, which could of done better. I also learned about EVs a few years ago, but didn't really get them until like two years ago or so. And I still kind of don't. IVs, are on my target list on trying to accomplish, but I just got into that. I've been trying to RNG for awhile now, and I still don't get it. IVs on my Pokemon are so horrible, and all I can do now, is try, try,and try again. oh, Shoddy, yeah, that place scares me.

I can see, but I am pretty sure that most of the people there that are old are more experienced.

Hey, guess you never know.
 
I have a quick question. What would be better to use, Stone Edge or Rock Slide? I know that Rock Slide hits both opponents and has a higher accuracy, but would the power on Stone Edge make up for its weaknesses?
 
I have a question. Alright, I have this Timid Latias that I got from a trade a long time ago. It says it was the 10th anniversary Pokémon (OT is 10ANNIV; ID is 00010) and it works on PBR WiFi. Is there any other way I can check to see if this was not Pokésavd so that I can use it in this year's VGC?
 
xXxNovaXxXx said:
I have a quick question. What would be better to use, Stone Edge or Rock Slide? I know that Rock Slide hits both opponents and has a higher accuracy, but would the power on Stone Edge make up for its weaknesses?
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I prefer rock slide myself. The fact that it hits both opponents with a chance of flinch is quite the useful added effect.

It is one of the only ways i can think of that would stop a trick room bronzong + follow me/focus sash smeargle. Sure, it is only 30% but it is the only chance you have. The other being discharge and paralyzing.
 
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