Virginity

[AJers]

* Are you a virgin? If so, then why are you still one? If not, then what made you decide to lose it/give it away?
No, I'm not a virgin.

* What are your views on the idea of "casual sex" or, in general, the value of virginity? Is it something worth keeping?
Personally, I don't find anything "wrong" with casual sex; as long as it's between two consenting adults, who cares? I don't value virginity nor do I feel that it has any "worth", per say; however, I know that other people do put a high value on it and I r

* If it is, why do you think it's worth keeping? If not, justify why it's lost its value.
It never had value, to me. I guess in some way I do put some value in "firsts", but that's not limited to just virginity.

* Do you think there's a certain dogma about being a virgin? Is it generally accepted, approved upon, or criticized?
In my experience, it depends on where you are in your life and who you surround yourself with (because, we all pick our friends, whether we want to admit it or not). It's not like everyone around me knows I am and/or am not a virgin unless they are people I confide in or they are people I want to discuss stuff with, they don't need to know. Nor do I conclusively know whether or not they are.

I think once you get past High School (where, honestly, every subject is picked apart beyond ordinary means), you're fine. I mean, I had a friend who went home crying after her first date with this 16 year old (she was 13) because he called her a prude for not kissing/making-out in front of his friends. Yeah, it stings; but it doesn't sting any worse than anything else that happens in High School.

College is more a test of your will-power, because you have a group of super young adults who are completely away from their parents and are discovering the joys (and pitfalls) of complete independence. Take it or leave it.

* If you are not a virgin, what would you say to a virgin friend who is considering giving it up? Would you encourage him to lose it or keep it, and why?
Neither? I would talk it through with him/her, trying to delve into WHY they want to do it, whether it's important to them, and WHY they want to do it now and/or with this person. And from there, just kinda look at the pros and cons of the decision; and, just to make a minor point, this doesn't just tie into virginity. In every relationship you get to the point where you wonder when to take it to the next level and how that will effect your relationship... And, to put it plainly, there can be a "wrong" person, "wrong" time, or "wrong" reason to take it to that next level.

* What emotional and relational requirements do you think there are for being ready to have sex for the first time?
Sex can be a powerful thing if you're not ready for it; especially when it doesn't mean as much to one of the parties involved as it does to the other (or, even more problematic, if it doesn't mean the same thing). So, to avoid being hurt from just adding sex to the relationship, you need to know yourself first; make sure that what you're trying to get out of it is feasible. Secondly, know your relationship. If you're completely emotionally involved and your "partner" isn't; you're going to be taking it to a level that neither of you are prepared for. If you're wanting some sort of validation of the relationship or if you're trying to save an already failing relationship, it's probably not going to work. I don't know... I guess the tl;dr part of it is to know what you're trying to get out of it and to make sure the relationship you have already established with that person supports it.

Anyways, yeah. To respond to Surgo's suggestion: I'm 25.

 

[pika]

i am a 22-year-old virgin. i have been with my partner (who is also a virgin) for "officially" two years, but have been extremely close for around 8 or 9 years.

i think we are both ready, but we're also both too shy to bring up the topic. :(
what to do?

 

[Morm]

It all depends on the person. I lost virginity in university and I don't regret it at all. Some people end up regretting it.

Let me grace you with the best thing that I read in my grade 12 biology text book (it was vandalism): "Sex is like Oxygen- it's not a big deal unless you aren't getting any."

 

[The Requiem]

you obviously have some big psychological problems.

No he doesn't, he's clearly asexual. A bit on the extreme side, but asexual nonetheless.

* Are you a virgin? If so, then why are you still one? If not, then what made you decide to lose it/give it away?

I'm not a virgin. And when I lost it I was young, itching to try, and the opportunity arose, so I struck while the iron was hot. I don't think virginity is a huge deal, and I never did, so losing it was just another thing that happens when you get older to me.

* What are your views on the idea of "casual sex" or, in general, the value of virginity? Is it something worth keeping?

Casual sex depends on the person. It can either be rather fun, or quite disgusting. Example. I'm single right now. If a chick I've known for a long time, and I'm good friends with wants to get down, and I'm attracted to her, I'll get down. But I'm not down for being out in the club and waking up with some chick in my bed, fuck that. There's too much disease going on in people's pants. I get one penis, and I'm not breaking it.

* If it is, why do you think it's worth keeping? If not, justify why it's lost its value.

The value of virginity depends on the person. Enough said.

* Do you think there's a certain dogma about being a virgin? Is it generally accepted, approved upon, or criticized?

Amongst boys, yes. Young boys seem to think that getting your dick wet makes you a man. Unfortunately, some men never grow out of this. I'd say that people who are a virgin, and proud would generally be well-recieved. It's such a rare thing that people want to keep it anymore that when I do hear of people that want to keep it, I have to give them props for it.

* If you are not a virgin, what would you say to a virgin friend who is considering giving it up? Would you encourage him to lose it or keep it, and why?

All I'd want is for them to make absolutely sure they're ready, and to make absolutely sure they're being safe. I don't think I'd push them one way or another, I don't like peer pressure.

* What emotional and relational requirements do you think there are for being ready to have sex for the first time?

Since its so common to just give it up, make sure you can tell the difference between lust and love. To someone who cares about virginity I imagine that'd be difficult.

Edit: Forgot to mention that I'm 22.

 

[MrIndigo]

I pretty much agree with that post, with one minor qualification.

The virgin-by-choice is only well-received if they're attractive and eligible and whatnot. I've known a couple of guys who are either ugly or abhorrent personalities or both, and then they try to use the I'm-a-virgin-by-choice.

Essentially, virgin-by-choice is only well received if you actually did have a choice.

 

[The Requiem]

I pretty much agree with that post, with one minor qualification.

The virgin-by-choice is only well-received if they're attractive and eligible and whatnot. I've known a couple of guys who are either ugly or abhorrent personalities or both, and then they try to use the I'm-a-virgin-by-choice.

Essentially, virgin-by-choice is only well received if you actually did have a choice.

I can agree with that.

 

[Morm]

I pretty much agree with that post, with one minor qualification.

The virgin-by-choice is only well-received if they're attractive and eligible and whatnot. I've known a couple of guys who are either ugly or abhorrent personalities or both, and then they try to use the I'm-a-virgin-by-choice.

Essentially, virgin-by-choice is only well received if you actually did have a choice.

Don't forget fat chicks.

 

[mtr]

I pretty much agree with that post, with one minor qualification.

The virgin-by-choice is only well-received if they're attractive and eligible and whatnot. I've known a couple of guys who are either ugly or abhorrent personalities or both, and then they try to use the I'm-a-virgin-by-choice.

Essentially, virgin-by-choice is only well received if you actually did have a choice.

Agreed. If you're an attractive, socially adept male, a girl hearing that you're a virgin-by-choice will be like "OMG that's so cute".

But you don't need to be 'abhorrent', if you're not "cute" or socially adept, a girl's reaction is "Wow you must be a fucking loser". Ok fine, a girl will never be this blunt. You'll get something along the lines of "let's just be friends".

Most virgin adults aren't exactly cute or particularly socially adept, so they get the latter. That's why you gotta fake it till you make it.

 

[Alex Practice]

1. No, I'm not. I decided to give it away when a girl asked if I wanted to fuck.
2. Casual sex is alright. But for a sensitive loser like me, it's just "not enough". The value of virginity is what you make of it. Some people think it should be reserved for the person you marry, some want to get rid of it as soon as possible as if it's a weight. My view on it had always been, I just wanted to wait till I felt ready. And I did, so I did it.
3. It's worth keeping if it's a big deal to you. If it isn't going to haunt you, throw it at the first person who's DTF.
4. "If you feel like the time is right, just go for it. But if you're not sure, or you're against it, then hold on to it, because you'll never get another "First time", and you don't want to regret something like this."
5. I think there is a dogma. You're either a loser or a prude if you're a virgin, to most people at least.
6. It's hard to say because I've only had sex out of a relationship (ironically enough). I'd say that if you feel a lot of love, attraction, and trust for the person you're with, and they feel the same, and you're like "Hey, are you ready?" and you both are, then I think the requirements have been met.

 

[BuddyBlueBomber]

• Are you a virgin? If so, then why are you still one? If not, then what made you decide to lose it/give it away?
• What are your views on the idea of "casual sex" or, in general, the value of virginity? Is it something worth keeping?
• If it is, why do you think it's worth keeping? If not, justify why it's lost its value.
• Do you think there's a certain dogma about being a virgin? Is it generally accepted, approved upon, or criticized?
• If you are not a virgin, what would you say to a virgin friend who is considering giving it up? Would you encourage him to lose it or keep it, and why?
• What emotional and relational requirements do you think there are for being ready to have sex for the first time?

1. No, I am not a virgin. I haven't been for a while, actually, considering my age (17, lost at 14). The reason I chose to "give away" my virginity is because I found the girl whom I wish to spend the rest of my life with. Yes, that might sound cheesy and what not, but it's the truth. We've been together for 2 years, 10 months, and 13 days, as well as waiting 5 months before having any kind of intercoarse. This is partially by reason of being a long-distance relationship, but I'm sure that we would have waiting a long time either way.

2. I find casual sex to be strange, dirty even. It doesn't have that binding feeling of love behind it, just meaningless pleasure. Not only that, but it poses the risk of STDs and pregnancy (Always a possibility, no matter what). To me, having sexual intercoarse needs to have that sense of love, and more importantly, a sense of trust to be completely fulfilling. This doesn't mean I look down upon those who have casual sex, but just that it's not something that I would ever partake in (Well, only in fantasies, but that is a completely different story. Teenagers and their raging hormones and all that jazz).

3. I believe the value of virginity is important, and is something that should be held on to as some sort of treasure; not a status. It shows that you are strong willed and able to make rational decisions in heated situations. Virginity should be given away only when you are completely ready, and sure of your decision. You only have one, and you can never get it back.

3. At least with who I seem to be around at school and public areas, as well as my friends, the status of virginity is considered positive in its connotation. Respect is given to those who chose to keep their virginity, as it should be. Of coarse, there are certain groups and unfavorable types who look down upon virgins, labeling them as someone who can't "get some", or are generally retarded socially. Twisted views, if you ask me.

4. If I were to talk to my friend, or anyone for that matter, on losing their virginity (Or having sex with someone for the first time, as well), the very first thing I would tell them is to be careful. Relationships have been known to change after intercoarse has been made, and it has been shown that most relationships tend to fall apart after having sex for the first time (This is mostly from the situation where a guy is trying to get into bed with a girl, and then ditches afterwords, but there are many other situations as well). It's really the person's decision who is deciding on losing their virginity or not on whether they should, as he or she needs to feel completely comfortable with their partner, as well as feel that it is the right decision for themselves. I make the utmost strain on the word careful, as these are feelings which need to be mulled over for a very long time, to make sure it is the right thing to do. I would support either decision from the person after this ample period of time used to come to a conclusion.

5. Sex is something that only two people who are truly in love can enjoy to the fullest. The relationship should have a strong foundation of respect, intimacy, and trust before having intercoarse, since without these elements it may not be the best choice after all. I strongly recommend making sure that the relationship is sound and enjoyable before partaking in saucy love-making. Of coarse, there are no "requirements" to a relationship between people who want to have sex, but having this aspects really make it an enjoyabl,e and even enriching, experience.


As an address to the poster of the thread, I just want to give my condolences to your misfortune with the hurtful moment in your relationship. I hope I'm not being too personal, but I just want to say that I know how you feel. My girlfriend has been..disloyal at times, on differentiating intensities, and despite those times I've decided to stay with her and I do not regret that decision. You are a very strong individual, and I support that you're looking past these mishaps in your relationship, as everybody makes their mistakes in life (Me included, unfortunately). Hopefully, it has turned out to be a learning experience for the both of you, and that maturity and wisdom has been grown from the scorched earth.

Best of luck, Buddy~

 

[iDChuck]

I lost my virginity to a girl that I met for only 2 weeks. I knew i was rushing it because I recently took off my braces that year and had high self esteem at that point. Ever since I had sex with her, I had been having casual sex almost 3 times a week. I would do it more, but our schedule is somewhat tight. I also had a friend with benefits, but i grew to love her. She does not know that and when we were together at a party, she saw another friend of hers and she sat on his lap and gave him a lap dance in front of me. It seriously broked my heart seeing that, but I had to recollect my thoughts. Shes not my girlfriend, she means a lot to me, shes a freakin nympho, stay calm. So she comes to me to see if was alright. yeah i'm alright, NOOO wtf?! do you know what you just freakin do?! Thats what I wanted to say to her, but I just ignored that ever happened. I don't feel like sexing her up now. urgghh what to do.

 

[Rocket Grunt]

this might sound stupid bam, but i think you should go with what your heart tells you. if you're not ready, it's fine, dude. too often guys are so ready to fuck that they lose it at any chance that makes itself available. i really respect you for making the decision to save your first time for the moment you feel is right. but dont be daunted by it! its a beautiful thing to see sex as the genuine act of love, but it's still two horny kids bumping uglies. dont stress out over it, man.

 

[Chomper The Sharptooth]

Prior to answering, I am 16 years old and a sophomore

Are you a virgin? If so, then why are you still one? If not, then what made you decide to lose it/give it away?
I am a virgin, and while I haven't had a real say in this matter if I did I believe my virginity would still stand. While my views on the subject aren't quite as extreme as Objection's (who sadly won't be posting in this topic again), I would consider myself an asexual of sorts.

What are your views on the idea of "casual sex" or, in general, the value of virginity? Is it something worth keeping?
Casual sex is fine and well, I won't be having it and I'm not convinced that the world's morals are going to hell because other people are. As other have said sex has no intrinsic value and if other people choose to attach a different meaning to it who am I to judge? I personally think that mine is worth keeping because of both religious beliefs and personal ideals about intimacy in relationships.

If it is, why do you think it's worth keeping? If not, justify why it's lost its value.
Firstly, it has lost its value because most people who are celibate have at least some basis in religion. Even most atheists/agnostics are raised in religious households and may not attach their learned values to religion at all. As society becomes more secular and worldly its natural for them to be acting in less religious ways, which could include casual or premarital sex in plenty of people.

Do you think there's a certain dogma about being a virgin? Is it generally accepted, approved upon, or criticized?
It depends really on who you associate yourself with. I've been around people who react in each of the respective three ways and its hard to classify which people respond in a certain way into groups, this is where people seem to really surprise me.


What emotional and relational requirements do you think there are for being ready to have sex for the first time?
I can't answer for other people, but for myself the partner would have to be beyond willing. Optimally I'd fall in love and subsequently settle down with somebody else with an equally low libido but if that isn't the case I wouldn't be unwilling to have sex with them provided I was near certain we'd be together for some time to come (preferably married) and I genuinely believed it would thoroughly please them. It doesn't disgust me like it does Objection, it just doesn't appeal or attract me.

Now the obligatory remark to Bam, I really envy your strength of character and I'll go with what the others have said- do what feels right, I'm sure you'll know the better choice for yourself.

 

[McGrrr]

Are you a virgin? If not, then what made you decide to lose it/give it away?
No. It just happened after a while.

What are your views on the idea of "casual sex" or, in general, the value of virginity? Is it something worth keeping?
I don't think it's a big deal.

If not, justify why it's lost its value.
I disagree with the notion that it ever had value.

Do you think there's a certain dogma about being a virgin? Is it generally accepted, approved upon, or criticized?
It's generally accepted among my peers.

If you are not a virgin, what would you say to a virgin friend who is considering giving it up? Would you encourage him to lose it or keep it, and why?
Don't be somebody's bitch and don't be surprised if the whole thing doesn't live up to your expectations. If the opportunity arises, give it a go; so long as you don't take it too seriously and are empathetic with your partner.

What emotional and relational requirements do you think there are for being ready to have sex for the first time?
Whatever makes both of you comfortable. It will be obvious if you or your partner are not.

Have some fun, live a little and don't be afraid of making mistakes.

Edit: I'm 23 =O

 

[popemobile]

Are you a virgin? If so, then why are you still one? If not, then what made you decide to lose it/give it away?

No. I decided to lose it because I figured sex would be great, and it turns out I was right.

What are your views on the idea of "casual sex" or, in general, the value of virginity? Is it something worth keeping?

There is nothing wrong with casual sex. Virginity does not have any inherent value unless someone places some value on it, and I think people make way too big a deal out of virginity anyway.

As far as it being something worth keeping, that depends on the person. In general I would say it isn't really something to value that much.

If it is, why do you think it's worth keeping? If not, justify why it's lost its value.

I would say that virginity never had any value. Anyone whom I've talked to that wants to keep their virginity usually has religious reasons behind it, and that's personally something I find laughable.

Now if someone wants to keep their virginity on their own accord, i.e. not because they feel they need to keep it because that's what god wants or something, then I respect that decision.

Do you think there's a certain dogma about being a virgin? Is it generally accepted, approved upon, or criticized?

If you are not a virgin, what would you say to a virgin friend who is considering giving it up? Would you encourage him to lose it or keep it, and why?

I would probably encourage him to give it up unless he had a legitimate reason for wanting to keep it.

What emotional and relational requirements do you think there are for being ready to have sex for the first time?

If they feel ready, go for it. No relationship is necessary; if you want to have your first time in a casual environment then by all means go for it. Of course I think you need to know all of the consequences beforehand, and if you feel like you can handle the "responsibility" of sex, then I'd say you're ready.

Fun fact: I lost my virginity on the same day I had my first kiss. Bitches be movin' fast on me

 

[drcossack]

Are you a virgin? If so, then why are you still one? If not, then what made you decide to lose it/give it away? I'm 24. Yes, by choice.

What are your views on the idea of "casual sex" or, in general, the value of virginity? Is it something worth keeping? Going to answer this and the next question together.

To be honest, I'm not sure on "casual sex." However, I can say that, personally, I'm not interested in sex as a "casual" thing, though, if I had the opportunity, I wouldn't pass it up. I'm more interested in a long-term relationship, and if I have sex then, it's because I really care about the person. As for keeping it or not, that's up to you. I wouldn't rush into it, even if your girlfriend has had sex before.

Do you think there's a certain dogma about being a virgin? Is it generally accepted, approved upon, or criticized?

I'd say a mix of the 3. It depends on the person, but...

Anyway. I know some of my friends from college have had sex, but they've never said anything about me still being a virgin (largely because I very rarely talk about myself); in high school, I can't remember the subject ever coming up.

What emotional and relational requirements do you think there are for being ready to have sex for the first time? I would say make sure you're absolutely ready. As I said earlier, I don't care about it either way (casual or in a committed relationship), though I'd obviously prefer the latter.



It's been said already, but you should do what you feel is right. If you want to take that step, talk to your girlfriend.

 

[theamericandream38]

Are you a virgin? If so, then why are you still one? If not, then what made you decide to lose it/give it away?

I've never had sex with a female before (and yes I am a heterosexual male lol), but I am not foolish enough to use the "I choose not to do it" excuse. I fully acknowledge that I have an absolutely revolting appearance, and I consider myself to be one of the ugliest men on this planet. I am convinced that the girl that I went to prom with this year agreed to go with me only because she felt sorry for me (I am a senior in high school and have a very lackluster social life by popular consideration). Prior to this year, I had resigned myself to being alone at the very least until the end of high school, if not for the rest of my life. However, at the beginning of this school year I foolishly believed that a girl was interested in me, and since then I have stumbled several times in rapid succession =/

• What are your views on the idea of "casual sex" or, in general, the value of virginity? Is it something worth keeping?

Like others, I think that a person's choice to have sex is their own to make, and not for me or anyone else to judge. I do not consider "casual sex" a bad thing, in fact I support the legalization of prostitution (for a number of reasons). I personally do not value virginity very highly, but again, that is just me.

• If it is, why do you think it's worth keeping? If not, justify why it's lost its value.

I don't think it ever had tangible value, truly. I believe that society placed a high value on virginity because that is the way that many people believed for a long time, but in modern days societal values have changed and virginity is becoming less and less important.


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• Do you think there's a certain dogma about being a virgin? Is it generally accepted, approved upon, or criticized?[/QUOTE]

There is most certainly a dogma about being a virgin. It would be naive to believe otherwise. However, the approval or disapproval of virginity depends on the age group in question. Most older people would put a higher value on virginity and waiting until marriage to have intercourse, while younger persons would be more likely to consider virginity a "bad" thing and a sign of inexperience, unattractiveness, sexual incompetence, or some similar negative quality.

• What emotional and relational requirements do you think there are for being ready to have sex for the first time?

I haven't thought too much about this question, to be honest. I suppose I would prefer to wait until I am in a relationship with someone that I have strong feelings for that go beyond a mere physical attraction, judging from what others have said. However, I have no personal experience, so my judgment on this matter is severely impaired.

 

[Elgoo]

Very brave post, Very respectable. Ill give my two cents.

I am 15 years old, and a virgin. It's sorta by choice, I havent had a girl come up to me and go "hey, wanna fuck?", But I could go to some party and "get laid." I really dont understand that phrase, "Get laid." It's really a two way street you know? The guy isnt the only person having sex.

Are you a virgin? If so, then why are you still one? If not, then what made you decide to lose it/give it away?

I am a virgin. I am a virgin because I have a high degree of respect for women and myself. Pressuring a woman into having sex with you is wrong, and I cannot bring myself to do it. I want a good relationship before I decide to have sex.

What are your views on the idea of "casual sex" or, in general, the value of virginity? Is it something worth keeping?

Meh, casual sex isn't my thing but if its voluntary on both sides go for it. As for virginity, I wouldnt know, still have mine, I dont know if its different to not have it.

If it is, why do you think it's worth keeping? If not, justify
why it's lost its value.

Like I said before, I wouldn't know.

do you think there's a certain dogma about being a virgin? Is
it generally accepted, approved upon, or criticized?

There is a dogma, and its retarded. Women aren't supposed to have
sex, men are, men aren't supposed to have sex with whores, Then
who the hell are guys supposed to have sex with?

What emotional and relational requirements do you think there are for being ready to have sex for the first time?

I believe you have to know the risks, and not freak out when you suffer the consequences. There is a risk in everything, you have to be ready for everything and anything. I really think love should be in the mix, but I'm not one to judge (unless you sleep around), then I'll judge. Thats not ok.

GL and happy posting
-Elgoo

 

[archangel_94]

Are you a virgin? If so, then why are you still one? If not, then what made you decide to lose it/give it away?

I am a 16-year old virgin.I'm still a virgin because I want to have a sturdy relationship before losing "it".

What are your views on the idea of "casual sex" or, in general, the value of virginity? Is it something worth keeping?

Casual sex,impo,isn't something I'd do.Except if it's with your partner.Then you can f*** her brains out.
But casual sex with 3+ people a week...that's just wrong.

If it is, why do you think it's worth keeping? If not, justify
why it's lost its value.

Ummmmmmmmmm....next question.

Do you think there's a certain dogma about being a virgin? Is
it generally accepted, approved upon, or criticized?

Why are there so many teen pregnancies?
I think that the dogma around America (I'm not insulting America in any way.I'm just telling it from my point of view)l is,"If you're a virgin,you're a loser".
I think that that's retarded.Sure,men shouldn't have sex with whores,they could get STD(s) and cause their fertility to diminish.Woman shouldn't have premarital sex because their parents might not agree to that.
All in all,I'm to young and inexperienced to discuss.


What emotional and relational requirements do you think there are for being ready to have sex for the first time?

Emotionally,you have to be certain that you and her will have a good time.
Relationally,it has to be someone you know and trust.And don't freak out if your girlfriend turns out to be pregnant!Its your fault you had sex with her anyway.

 

[MrIndigo]

I think that that's retarded.Sure,men shouldn't have sex with whores,they could get STD(s) and cause their fertility to diminish.Woman shouldn't have premarital sex because their parents might not agree to that.

Why should women be restricted from premarital sex because their parents disapprove when men not?

Also, I think frequent sex increases fertility rather than decreasing it.

 

[popemobile]

What are your views on the idea of "casual sex" or, in general, the value of virginity? Is it something worth keeping?

Casual sex,impo,isn't something I'd do.Except if it's with your partner.Then you can f*** her brains out.
But casual sex with 3+ people a week...that's just wrong.

Casual sex implies you aren't with a partner.

Do you think there's a certain dogma about being a virgin? Is
it generally accepted, approved upon, or criticized?

I think that that's retarded.Sure,men shouldn't have sex with whores,they could get STD(s) and cause their fertility to diminish.Woman shouldn't have premarital sex because their parents might not agree to that.

Why should someone's life be governed by what their parents think? Assume I'm talking about someone over 18 years old and legally an adult.

 

[archangel_94]

Casual sex implies you aren't with a partner.



Why should someone's life be governed by what their parents think? Assume I'm talking about someone over 18 years old and legally an adult.

When you say "casual sex",I think sex with a partner or more than one partner.

And,assuming you're talking about an 18-year old,he\she is free to do what they want.But there's that guilt that hits you get when you disobey a parent's order,you understand?

 

[popemobile]

And,assuming you're talking about an 18-year old,he\she is free to do what they want.But there's that guilt that hits you get when you disobey a parent's order,you understand?

Well for one, why should a woman avoid premarital sex because of their parent's wishes and a man not have to? Also, there isn't necessarily guilt in doing things that your parents wouldn't approve of. I do things all the time that my parents wouldn't approve of and I really don't feel any guilt about it.

For clarification, are you saying that a woman should not under any circumstance have premarital sex if their parents disapprove of it (which is what is implied by your original post), or are you saying that they might feel guilt if they do it when their parents would disapprove?

 

[archangel_94]

Well for one, why should a woman avoid premarital sex because of their parent's wishes and a man not have to? Also, there isn't necessarily guilt in doing things that your parents wouldn't approve of. I do things all the time that my parents wouldn't approve of and I really don't feel any guilt about it.

For clarification, are you saying that a woman should not under any circumstance have premarital sex if their parents disapprove of it (which is what is implied by your original post), or are you saying that they might feel guilt if they do it when their parents would disapprove?

Do you have a sister,popemobile?
Because if you do,try to imagine this...

You're walking down the street when you see a guy hitting on your sister,a complete stranger.What would you do??

And this scenario...

You find out that your sister (if you have one) is pregnant at 16 years of age by a stranger,or someone you know at school.How would you feel?What would you do to that person who had sex with your sister?

What about this...

Your sister goes out with a person that you don't approve of,you don't like.Your parents say "no" to her about going out together with that boy,but secretly,she goes out with him,and has sex with him,and have a baby.How would you feel?


As for men,they don't have to endure the shame they would have if they were 16 and pregnant.

 

[mtr]

Do you have a sister,popemobile?
Because if you do,try to imagine this...

You're walking down the street when you see a guy hitting on your sister,a complete stranger.What would you do??

And this scenario...

You find out that your sister (if you have one) is pregnant at 16 years of age by a stranger,or someone you know at school.How would you feel?What would you do to that person who had sex with your sister?

What about this...

Your sister goes out with a person that you don't approve of,you don't like.Your parents say "no" to her about going out together with that boy,but secretly,she goes out with him,and has sex with him,and have a baby.How would you feel?


As for men,they don't have to endure the shame they would have if they were 16 and pregnant.

Woah, that's a bit of a jump, isn't it? From hitting on someone to getting them pregnant?

If my sister wants to do someone, that's her business. No one says I have to associate with her boyfriend or even be friendly to him, but it's up to her. Getting pregnant sucks, so we've gotta let her know the health risks of sex (if school hasn't already), but after that nothing can be done.

If you want to control someone like you describe, what will you do after they're adults and can, legally speaking, make their own decisions?