Most Generation PRNG Help / Information

only update if you keep hitting your delay wrong and hit delays that are close to each other

Ex: when I tried to use the pikatimer for the first time I was trying to hit a delay of 944 but I kept on hitting around 924, so I imputed 924 and I hit my delay in the next few trys

Oh thanks. My delay keeps moving back and forth, and the tiems change so much, when i update it, but it doesn't help me hitting my delay. I've been at it for the past two hours =/
 
Alllrighty just wanna confirm this, cause I've been off just one frame three times in a row.

RNG for Uxie, frame 298 of my seed.

Hit continue, Journal pops up with a Caught Pokemon. ==> 2
Uxie is monster frame 1. ==> 3

So 298-3==> 295 more advances needed. I take 128 Steps, 5 Pokemon in party, so 290. The divide in half for Journal flips is 145.

Am I missing something? =[
 
I grabbed Cressy and haven't interacted with Mesprit in its cave yet. I just did Azelf perfectly fine right before Uxie. It's odd. If I messed up with my Journal flips, I should be more than just one frame off =[
 
Just checking, but are you sure your synch is at the front of the party? I was off by a frame or two during one RNG because I forgot to save with it at the front of the party.
 
i have a question i use the seed to time finder and put in a seed i found for a shiny egg but when trying to hit my delay i get elm calls that cant be found is there any way to find the seed and frame i hit after trying the elm calls and does anyone know what i could be doing wrong i put all the right info in my ss (date and time) and i start pika timer and my ds clock at the same time
 
How big a delay range are you using to check for adjacents? How big a range of seconds? It's possible that you just don't have the adjacent you hit listed in the adjacents window.
 
Is the Red Gyarados under "Chained Shiny (Theoretical)" in the RNG reporter?
If so, how exactly do I search for spreads under that method?
 
Just checking, but are you sure your synch is at the front of the party? I was off by a frame or two during one RNG because I forgot to save with it at the front of the party.

Yeah, got the Abra in front of my party. I'm just going to assume that I didn't do something right the first two times ;x
 
im trying to learn the RNG in capturing perfect pokemon and im getting little bit confused about some important factors to be considered, there is so much to read and learn, is there easier way to understand this? how about a video in youtube to easily understand this?
 
im trying to learn the RNG in capturing perfect pokemon and im getting little bit confused about some important factors to be considered, there is so much to read and learn, is there easier way to understand this? how about a video in youtube to easily understand this?

Well, you could try some search terms on youtube like 'pokemon rng'.

Also, you might want to ask specific questions.
 
Well, you could try some search terms on youtube like 'pokemon rng'.

Also, you might want to ask specific questions.

okay, is the RNG for capturing a perfect pokemon can be use in capturing gastly at level 17, will it work even in low level pokemon?

i dont have an AR, can i perform this?

i notice in some video in youtube that they are using masterball in quickly capturing pokemon, how can they get those many masterballs? can RNG do that? duplicating masterballs?
 
No it can't. Use emerald to clone a bunch or don't use masterballs. None of the guides mention AR at all, so you don't need an AR. The level of what you are catching does not matter.
 
No it can't. Use emerald to clone a bunch or don't use masterballs. None of the guides mention AR at all, so you don't need an AR. The level of what you are catching does not matter.


so the level doesnt matter, i get confused because in the guide you it says that you need a high level pokemon pref. lvl 50 or higher =) thanks

another thing can i IV check low level pokemon accurately same as those high level ones?
 
I forgot is there anything you can do if you're using emloop and the delay you get when checking your seed (Step 9 on the first page) is higher than the delay you're aiming for? Since I won't be able to subtract the checked delay from the aimed delay.
 
so the level doesnt matter, i get confused because in the guide you it says that you need a high level pokemon pref. lvl 50 or higher =) thanks

another thing can i IV check low level pokemon accurately same as those high level ones?

Not as accurately without leveling them up first. That is the only reason the guide mentions high level pokemon, is because it's more easier to check the IVs of a high level pokemon than a low level pokemon. The high level pokemon refers to those in the wild used to check your delay/time (not yours, nor the pokemon you are trying to capture with good IVs).

If you are trying to calibrate your game, just capture a pokemon near the resort area to check your delay/time (they are all about level 50). The RNG reporter has a built in IV calculator, so all you have to do is enter the stats and such and it'll spit out your delay and time.
 
How do you abuse your ID/SID it get good spreads?

If you need a certain spread to be shiny, you can use that seed and try to achieve it when starting the game. If you want more than one good spread, use this sheet by OmegaDonut, it has got seeds which give groups of good shiny spreads.
To hit the needed delay and seconds, you have a good guide at the end of this post by Romsstar. He says that his usual delays are between 5730 and 5740 but mine are actually around 3600 so the calibration phase is really important. I would advise that you start the game as fast as you can and then save and use an AR to find you're SID so that you can know exactly what delay and seconds you hit (read Romsstar post to know how to do this with ID Finder). You only need to do this once. Afterwards, proceed with the calibration. What did was use a timer and get comfortably to the screen before the ID/SID combination is generated. When the timer ended, I pressed A, input the ID in the program and figured out my delay. I did that a couple of times and then searched for a time that would give me a ID/SID combination for that group of spreads within the delays I had figured I could easily hit.
Hope I helped^^
 
If you need a certain spread to be shiny, you can use that seed and try to achieve it when starting the game. If you want more than one good spread, use this sheet by OmegaDonut, it has got seeds which give groups of good shiny spreads.
To hit the needed delay and seconds, you have a good guide at the end of this post by Romsstar. He says that his usual delays are between 5730 and 5740 but mine are actually around 3600 so the calibration phase is really important. I would advise that you start the game as fast as you can and then save and use an AR to find you're SID so that you can know exactly what delay and seconds you hit (read Romsstar post to know how to do this with ID Finder). You only need to do this once. Afterwards, proceed with the calibration. What did was use a timer and get comfortably to the screen before the ID/SID combination is generated. When the timer ended, I pressed A, input the ID in the program and figured out my delay. I did that a couple of times and then searched for a time that would give me a ID/SID combination for that group of spreads within the delays I had figured I could easily hit.
Hope I helped^^


i ask the same question, but how about in platinum and with those person that do not have an AR, i myself do not have it.. what shall i do?
 
i ask the same question, but how about in platinum and with those person that do not have an AR, i myself do not have it.. what shall i do?

I don't think you asked the same question. You wanted to know about RNG capturing and/or breeding as far as I could understand, not ID/SID abusing. Even for ID/SID abusing, you do not need an AR, if you keep track of your seconds value when you hit A in the screen you'll figure out your delay quite easily without the need to know your SID. However, it might take some tries to accurately find it.

About your question, you don't need an AR. The lvl.50 Pokémon referred by the guide are not the ones you're going to RNG. They're only to find your seed when RNG'ing for natures on bred Pokémon. To find your seed, you need the IV's of a caught Pokémon. You can't figure out the exact IV's without an AR but RNG Reporter has an IV Calculator incorporated that will let you find your seed by providing the stats of a Pokémon around level 50. If you're RNG catching or abusing the IV's of an egg, however, you won't need this to figure out your seed as you're already aiming for a certain seed that you'll easily figure out if you hit looking at the results of the coin flips.

I hope this made it clearer for you. I RNG'd a lot of Pokémon before buying an AR so I know from experience that it's not needed. However, I can't explain this clearer than the existing guides, for sure. Even if I could, I wouldn't not waste my time writing one when there are already pretty understandable guides out there - the guides that taught me how to RNG abuse.
If you ever need help, you can come to me, but make sure you read the guides carefully first and familiarize yourself with RNG reporter. I spent 4 hours looking at the guides + 2 hours trying before I got my first RNG breed 1 and a half years ago. If you're not willing to spend at least that time learning you'd better give up.
 
I don't think you asked the same question. You wanted to know about RNG capturing and/or breeding as far as I could understand, not ID/SID abusing. Even for ID/SID abusing, you do not need an AR, if you keep track of your seconds value when you hit A in the screen you'll figure out your delay quite easily without the need to know your SID. However, it might take some tries to accurately find it.

About your question, you don't need an AR. The lvl.50 Pokémon referred by the guide are not the ones you're going to RNG. They're only to find your seed when RNG'ing for natures on bred Pokémon. To find your seed, you need the IV's of a caught Pokémon. You can't figure out the exact IV's without an AR but RNG Reporter has an IV Calculator incorporated that will let you find your seed by providing the stats of a Pokémon around level 50. If you're RNG catching or abusing the IV's of an egg, however, you won't need this to figure out your seed as you're already aiming for a certain seed that you'll easily figure out if you hit looking at the results of the coin flips.

I hope this made it clearer for you. I RNG'd a lot of Pokémon before buying an AR so I know from experience that it's not needed. However, I can't explain this clearer than the existing guides, for sure. Even if I could, I wouldn't not waste my time writing one when there are already pretty understandable guides out there - the guides that taught me how to RNG abuse.
If you ever need help, you can come to me, but make sure you read the guides carefully first and familiarize yourself with RNG reporter. I spent 4 hours looking at the guides + 2 hours trying before I got my first RNG breed 1 and a half years ago. If you're not willing to spend at least that time learning you'd better give up.


okay? i already got my SID, can i ask this? what SID gonna do in using RNG abuse in capturing pokemon? i wanna focus and learn first how to RNG the wild pokemons than breeding pokemons, because breeding i think is so much complicated than capturing.. any tips?

and btw it is possible for me to rng in low level pokemon? without an AR
 
okay? i already got my SID, can i ask this? what SID gonna do in using RNG abuse in capturing pokemon? i wanna focus and learn first how to RNG the wild pokemons than breeding pokemons, because breeding i think is so much complicated than capturing.. any tips?

So, the ID/SID combination is what determines the shininess of your Pokémon. If you're trying to capture Pokémon with perfect IV's and non-shiny, you don't need your SID for anything. If you want shinies but not flawless, you can use your SID to figure out shiny spreads in your game. If you want shiny AND flawless either you breed (using your ID/SID combination to figure out shiny seeds) or you have to abuse your ID/SID combination when you start a new game to be able to capture shiny flawless Pokémon.
So, lets stick with capturing non-shiny flawless Pokémon. Have you downloaded RNG Reporter and PokéRNGDP?
 
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