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Phanphy's HP stat remains the same, at 90 base, when it evolves into Donphan.

I'd like to think of Electula as an Ariados evolution, if only because its design is so similar, from what we've seen so far...I'd be disappointed if the design of a completely new and unrelated Pokemon were so uninspired.
Gothdevoir seems one of the most intriguing new Pokemon, to me...but nobody's talking about it... :(

What similarity? Both being an arachnid?
 
i still believe that tarantula thing will evolve from ariados even tho they like totally different,ets not forget the huge difference between vigroth and slaking.

Vigroth and Slaking are based on Sloths though like Slakoth.

Slakoth -> Vigroth -> Slaking. Basically, its a modern day two-toed sloth going back through evolution to its Behemoth-like ancestor.
 
A tarantula is vastly different from a spider like Ariadros. Yes, they are both spiders, but the operate much different. For example. How to you explain Electura having Spider Web? (Tarantula's aren't web makers)

The creator, if I remember, was a major fan of insects (wanted to base the game on them) so I doubt it would sit well with him. I see a Tarantula being a bulky physical attacker. A more aggressive version of what Ariadros should have been.
 
A tarantula is vastly different from a spider like Ariadros. Yes, they are both spiders, but the operate much different. For example. How to you explain Electura having Spider Web? (Tarantula's aren't web makers)

The creator, if I remember, was a major fan of insects (wanted to base the game on them) so I doubt it would sit well with him. I see a Tarantula being a bulky physical attacker. A more aggressive version of what Ariadros should have been.


well,i still hope it's an evo of ariados anyways.Ariados is deserving an evo so bad.
 
Can we stop acting like reality applies to Pokemon? If the creators want a spider to evolve in to a Tarantula they will do it.

Also, just because a Pokemon's species is similar it doesn't mean they are on the same evo line.
 
so far I gather the common opinion on gothdevoir is it is a female meditite evo

It does look a little like Meditite in the face...

I couldn't really say that I liked this batch at first, but it grew on me. I like all of them except the floating green thing with arms. I guess it will be this generations' Probopass, huh?
 
What similarity? Both being an arachnid?
If you wanted to create two spider Pokemon that looked completely distinct, it would be very easy; there are thousands of species of spider in existence, and it wouldn't take much effort to pick out two that looked extremely different from each other - or at least, were less aesthetically comparable than Ariados and Electula.

If you look at the distinction between the turtles and tortoises in Pokemon...let's say Torterra and Blastoise, there would never be any suggestion that they were related. Similarly with Ghost-types - Dusclops, Spiritomb and Banette are all different interpretations of what a 'ghost' might be, but despite all sharing the same colour scheme, still manage to avoid confusion with each other.
The very fact that Electula's similar enough to draw speculations of an evolution from Ariados is a testament to its similarity, I think. If they wanted to make an unrelated spider Pokemon, they could've done a lot better.
 
If you wanted to create two spider Pokemon that looked completely distinct, it would be very easy; there are thousands of species of spider in existence, and it wouldn't take much effort to pick out two that looked extremely different from each other - or at least, were less aesthetically comparable than Ariados and Electula.

If you look at the distinction between the turtles and tortoises in Pokemon...let's say Torterra and Blastoise, there would never be any suggestion that they were related. Similarly with Ghost-types - Dusclops, Spiritomb and Banette are all different interpretations of what a 'ghost' might be, but despite all sharing the same colour scheme, still manage to avoid confusion with each other.
The very fact that Electula's similar enough to draw speculations of an evolution from Ariados is a testament to its similarity, I think. If they wanted to make an unrelated spider Pokemon, they could've done a lot better.

This is all well and good, but one thing you apparently forgot to mention (or perhaps I can't read), is HOW they are so similar. And please, please, please don't site the thingies on its abdomen. They don't even look like its other legs, nor are they in a similar position to Ariados' back legs.

Honestly, I feel like if you want to make any kind of spider, there aren't many ways you can make them that different. In general, a lot of spiders look pretty similar if you ignore their color schemes. Either way, is having wild fur not distinctive enough from Ariados?

Not even going to acknowledge your Ghost-type thing...
 
Sooo...Dusclops was a mummy pokemon, and now we have a sarcophagus one too. Does anyone else think it'd be cool if they got some Slowbro-esque evo together? Some sort of dead Pharaoh?

I can imagine an ancient pyramid episode in the anime though, with scooby-doo references galore, and dusclops' hiding in this sarcophagi pokemon.
 
Sooo...Dusclops was a mummy pokemon, and now we have a sarcophagus one too. Does anyone else think it'd be cool if they got some Slowbro-esque evo together? Some sort of dead Pharaoh?

I can imagine an ancient pyramid episode in the anime though, with scooby-doo references galore, and dusclops' hiding in this sarcophagi pokemon.

yup that would be awesome dusclops evolving just to get more atacking points and the evolution doing the same thing as the pre-evo did, yes really great... (cough... dusknoir... cough)
if that indeed happens i'm so gonna ragequit >.> but before that i'm traveling to japan myself just to Falcon Punch someone on Game Freak, nuff said.
 
yup that would be awesome dusclops evolving just to get more atacking points and the evolution doing the same thing as the pre-evo did, yes really great... (cough... dusknoir... cough)
if that indeed happens i'm so gonna ragequit >.> but before that i'm traveling to japan myself just to Falcon Punch someone on Game Freak, nuff said.
Not a dusclops evolution numpty. That would just be silly.
 
Well yesterday I went to Gamestop and they had the binder with the upcoming releases, so I looked at it and flipped over to the DS games seeing that I only have a Wii and my DS. It said 4/1/2011 for Pokemon Black and Pokemon White, whether or not this is a final release date or not, this is what they had in that binder at Gamestop so I am expecting Black and White to come out in America early Spring/April.

No man, this is not the actual release date. Its an estimation used to go ahead and take reserves.
 
Well yesterday I went to Gamestop and they had the binder with the upcoming releases, so I looked at it and flipped over to the DS games seeing that I only have a Wii and my DS. It said 4/1/2011 for Pokemon Black and Pokemon White, whether or not this is a final release date or not, this is what they had in that binder at Gamestop so I am expecting Black and White to come out in America early Spring/April.

What is the format of that date?

Day/Month/Year?

or is it Month/Day/Year?
 
What is the format of that date?

Day/Month/Year?

or is it Month/Day/Year?
Month/Day/Year, considering he mentioned "April" later in the post. But Gamestop doesn't have a clue when the ACTUAL release date is, that's just an educated guess / placeholder until we find out from Nintendo.
 
Month/Day/Year, considering he mentioned "April" later in the post. But Gamestop doesn't have a clue when the ACTUAL release date is, that's just an educated guess / placeholder until we find out from Nintendo.

Lol^^^
I just got exicted when I saw the date and quoted , didnt read the rest;D

Thanks tho^^
 
I'm not seeing the Zaptula similarity to Ariados apart from the fact that they're both Arachnids.
The color scheme is very different, the most likely typing is weird for an evolution of a Bug/Poison, and it's all furry like a Tarantula and unlike Ariados.

Sure, we couldn't argue with them if they decided that a garden spider should evolve into a tarantula (Remoraid->Octillery lol) but I'd bet against it for now.
There are a lot of somewhat similar starter bugs (such as Butterfree/Beautifly and Venomoth/Dustox) that are not related.

I could see Zaptula being the early bug and Electric in one Pokemon.
That might not be best for its stats but there's hope since Luxray is OK apart from movepool.

The typing isn't bad cuz when Electric pairs with something that helps it's sole weakness it's mostly win, win defensively for the dual type.
The coverage isn't bad either because every single type that resists Bug takes neutral or SE damage from Electric with only some duals like Rotom, Zapdos or Gliscor resisting both.
The ability Static would fit the flavour since tarantula hairs can be irritating but I'm all for new abilities!
 
yeah, but you know, Manson, just because it's never happened before doesn't mean it couldn't. Wouldn't you like to see that precedent broken and a new one set? Useable Bibarel and Linoone. Think about it.

I would like a usable Spinarak. Ariados is badass enough to deserve the evo.

Ledyba is only good for breeding Baton Pass Gliscors. I don't want to see that thing evolve again.
 
-Considering Munna has Sync and "another" ability it could be the abra of this generation.

-Abra had Synchronize + Inner Focus and was a special decent sweeper.

-Ralts had Synchronize + Trace and was a decent special sweeper.

-And all of them are the psychic type...

-Alakazam was very fast and had very high SpA.

-Gardevoir had good SpA too but he was much slower and the stats were moved to SpD.

-Someone calculated Munna's base HP is 90 , so its final evo might have around 150+ and will also have decent SpA.

Just what came in my mind....

I like the way you think, Tintin.
 
Ah poor Ledian. Sucks even harder than Ariados. They should give it a superawesome Bug/Fighting power ranger inspired evo >_>
 
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