Pokemon Black & White, aka Gen 5. Coming to Japan in Fall 2010.

[SolarPowerX]

To be fair, Ariados and spinirak's colours are pretty far apart as well :P

But yeah, in all seriousness I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be a new line. Like I said before though, I hope Ariados gains something to power it up :/

Also, @ Emperor: lol, that's what I thought too

 

[Fiction]

I doubt that aridos evolves into that as GF would release pics of new lines to add to the hype. Secondly I doubt GF will be fixing poisons effectiveness as it is an "evil type" for the bad guys to use as is dark. Dark types bar Ttar and umbreon(lacks offense) have horrible bulk where as poison just sucks in general jk

.... but seriously it does.

 

[Chateau]

this brings up something that I don't think has been discussed yet. if Muuna isn't a Drowzee prevo, what could he evolve into? I'm drawing a complete blank. something with Levitate as an ability option, but that's all I can think of... maybe a genie?

by the way: Genie Pokemon. I want.

A porcelain elephant/baku maybe? The figurines commonly have colorful patterns, sometimes floral, and they have the same body type as baku, especially the trunk. This could be waaay off. However, if GF was going to release a prevo, wouldn't they make it somewhat recognizable at a glance? Otherwise they would just release a new line to get excited about.

And I want a Genie Legendary.

In regards to Spiritomb, it has a pretty specific backstory rooted deeply in that tower in Sinnoh. GF would have to ignore that to give it means to evolve specific to Isshu. Even more so if it randomly changed into a sarcophagus.

 

[Nintenfreak]

Actually, I'm pretty sure the things on Dentula's tail end aren't legs, but rather exaggerated spinnerets. So in actuality, it seems to have only FOUR legs. But Bug-types not having the amount of legs as the animal they are based on is not uncommon at all.

Those are what they're used for on Ariados, too. They're not spinnerets, but the hindlegs that move webbing out of the spinnerets. Seriously, if they made a completely unrelated spider line and it has only six legs again, then they need to fire their character designer, or at least send him or her to remedial biology.

 

[Nanoswine]

Wow, gone for a few days and naturally there's a big reveal...

My thoughts are Moguryu and Doryuuzu look all right. Not really expecting much of them, they look a lot like something the bad guys will be carrying around though. Moguryu could be like Rattata though, avaliable early on.

Ononokusu looks like a Bug-or-Grass/Dragon Psudo-legend to me. Not much else to say.

Desukan looks sick. Hopefully Ghost-Rock with Levitate. All the mons in the double battle look to be fully evolved, maybe you can pick up it's possible pre-evo in the desert? Also no way it's a Spiritomb evo. The only thing I could see evolving into it is Bronzong, because of the symbol on its back. But honestly, there is no other resemblence.

Denchura is totally an Ariados evo, which is awesome. The color scheme may be off, but Spinarak and Ariados don't really match in color, do they? It has the 4 legs and 2 spindles, designs on its abdomen if you look closely, and its legs start with a thin little rod before the main leg, which extends above the rod.

Don't really have much to say about the goth...meh

The jell-o fetus looks really weird, but I like it. Hopefully evolves into something cool.

I really hope the rocky one is a Probopass evo, although it doesn't look much like it. And probopass doesn't really need an evo...

 

[PKMN Trainer Manson]

Those are what they're used for on Ariados, too. They're not spinnerets, but the hindlegs that move webbing out of the spinnerets. Seriously, if they made a completely unrelated spider line and it has only six legs again, then they need to fire their character designer, or at least send him or her to remedial biology.

They serve the same PURPOSE on Ariados, but the two things on Ariados' back are, indeed, legs, and as such look like the legs that are actually legs. The ones on Dentula simply look like spinnerets and not like the legs we can see, and seeing as they're more noticeable and in the same position as on Dentula's body in tarantulas, than I assume that's what they are, and not multipurpose legs. There's not much connecting the two other than both being spiders at the moment. We can maybe guess the two things on its abdomen are just Ariados' hind legs but evolved only to function as spinnerets but you know assuming does.

Also, I simply don't imagine them giving an evolution to an early Bug-type like Spinarak/Ariados, but you never know.

 

[Ericcc]

The jell-o fetus looks really weird, but I like it. Hopefully evolves into something cool.

Am I the only one on these forums who thinks it's an alternate Roselia evo?
I'm expecting a "Yeah" d:

 

[Nintenfreak]

They serve the same PURPOSE on Ariados, but the two things on Ariados' back are, indeed, legs, and as such look like the legs that are actually legs. The ones on Dentula simply look like spinnerets and not like the legs we can see, and seeing as they're more noticeable and in the same position as on Dentula's body in tarantulas, than I assume that's what they are, and not multipurpose legs. There's not much connecting the two other than both being spiders at the moment. We can maybe guess the two things on its abdomen are just Ariados' hind legs but evolved only to function as spinnerets but you know assuming does.

Also, I simply don't imagine them giving an evolution to an early Bug-type like Spinarak/Ariados, but you never know.

yeah, but you know, Manson, just because it's never happened before doesn't mean it couldn't. Wouldn't you like to see that precedent broken and a new one set? Useable Bibarel and Linoone. Think about it.

 

[PKMN Trainer Manson]

yeah, but you know, Manson, just because it's never happened before doesn't mean it couldn't. Wouldn't you like to see that precedent broken and a new one set? Useable Bibarel and Linoone. Think about it.

Sure, it'd be nice, I just don't imagine it happening. Just like, it would be nice if every starter could be one of the best Pokemon in the gen (if only Tsutarja wasn't doomed to the awful Grass-type...) like Infernape and to an extent Empoleon was, but I don't imagine that happening. But of course, as I said, you never really know.

 

[The Pokemon Pimp]

Am I the only one on these forums who thinks it's an alternate Roselia evo?
I'm expecting a "Yeah" d:

Absolutely you are :P I cannot for the life of me see that, unless Roselia vaporized or something? I could see a Grass/Poison with Levitate for that, though.

 

[Chateau]

Speaking of the starters, can we have signature moves back please? Muddy Water, Blaze Kick, and Leaf Blade were friggin awesome. Especially when Leaf Blade was special :p. I was disappointed GenIV left them out. The move Mijumaru had, Shell Blade, could be their return, though.

 

[PKMN Trainer Manson]

Absolutely you are :P I cannot for the life of me see that, unless Roselia vaporized or something? I could see a Grass/Poison with Levitate for that, though.

You know, I hate it when people begin a thought with "Am I the only one...", but actually, this may be one of the rare few times where it is indeed true that the post IS the only one. I don't think "alternate Roselia evo" has crossed anyone else's mind, LOL.

I honestly don't think anyone can possibly have any vague idea what the green... thing is until we get art of it. And even then we probably won't know until a name... and even then we might never know what they were thinking of when it was designed.

In regards to starter signature moves... please, yes, that was really cool. Just, actually make them better than some other options they might want. The only ones like that were like that was Leaf Blade (oh god, Leaf Blade...! It was so worth being forced to use Absorb...!), and now none of them are like that, albeit that's mostly because of the great Physical/Special split.

EDIT: WTF. Apparently some guy on Serebii thinks the green thing is actually a plausible evolution for Chiraami. Uh... what? Just had to say that. Thankfully, I've been proven wrong that no one else thinks green thing might be related to Roselia, so I can rest easy. You're never the only one.

 

[blasphemy1]

Speaking of the starters, can we have signature moves back please? Muddy Water, Blaze Kick, and Leaf Blade were friggin awesome. Especially when Leaf Blade was special :p. I was disappointed GenIV left them out. The move Mijumaru had, Shell Blade, could be their return, though.

It could very well be an exclusive move, along with Grass Mixer (iirc Tsutaja was the only one to use it in the videos) for Tsutaja.

Shell Blade: Water-type Leaf Blade?
Grass Mixer: Grass-type Magma Storm, with less power and more accuracy?

 

[Chateau]

It could very well be an exclusive move, along with Grass Mixer (iirc Tsutaja was the only one to use it in the videos) for Tsutaja.

Shell Blade: Water-type Leaf Blade?
Grass Mixer: Grass-type Magma Storm, with less power and more accuracy?

The only thing that worries me is that both were at pretty low levels when they had already learned the moves. That doesn't rule it out, though.

 

[Spike Razzor]

Hey, you guys seen this yet? Still not confirmed, but it looks pretty legit if you ask me. I believe it. Which kinda sucks, since the Tsutarja evolution kinda sorta blows. But the Mijumaru one isn't bad, but honestly, anything is an improvement over Mijumaru. Also, bat thing (Zubat replacement?) and what I'd say is something that looks like a first-stage "pseudo-legendary" Pokemon.

To me it looks like BS, random negro Ash, yet another girl with crazy hair, suspicious first gen style Pokemon art and a random Mexican guy standing behind an Umbreon... If you couldn't tell its fake by now something if wrong with you.

 

[T-major]

However, Game Freak has pretty much categorized Spiritomb as incredibly rare and almost to the point of semi-legendary ('Tomb reminds me a lot of Rotom in that way)...I doubt that Spiritomb would evolve at this point. Additionally, Game Freak really likes to preserve that "no weaknesses" typing IMO.

I agree for the most part. however, the bold part... who's to say that Sarcophaghost (if it does, for whatever reason, evolve from spiritomb), would keep it's Ghost/Dark typing? it defiantly looks desert related, so Ghost/Ground or Ghost/Rock seems more likely based solely on appearance/inspiration. Ghost/Dark is possible, but it seem rather odd and unlikely, if you ask me.

A porcelain elephant/baku maybe? The figurines commonly have colorful patterns, sometimes floral, and they have the same body type as baku, especially the trunk.

interesting idea. the design certainly fits, and would allow for some epic evolution potential. the only problem I could see is that it could potentially diverge from the concept of a Baku, or more specifically, eating dreams. I like it though.

 

[PKMN Trainer Manson]

To me it looks like BS, random negro Ash, yet another girl with crazy hair, suspicious first gen style Pokemon art and a random Mexican guy standing behind an Umbreon... If you couldn't tell its fake by now something if wrong with you.

Uhhh... what? None of those are very good reasons to think this is fake, and listing them off and saying anyone who believes otherwise has something wrong with them is just being utterly closed-minded. It's done in the style of anime pre-production sketches, and the colored characters are just randomly colored, it doesn't mean anything. How is "yet another girl with crazy hair" possibly proof against it? Same for "random Mexican guy standing behind an Umbreon". Don't understand what you meant by "first gen style Pokemon art", but pre-production sketches of animes based on, say, video games, are not exactly strangers to re-using older art to scale newer characters. The only thing suspicious about it I immediately notice (besides the apparently anonymous source) is that the Japanese words beneath each character appears to be their name, but the text under Tsutarja certainly doesn't say "Tsutarja". However, it's not a strange occurence for pre-production sketches for anime to be leaked, albeit it's not usually for something as "important" as Pokemon.

We probably shouldn't be talking about it, though, since discussion about it will only lead to nowhere until it is proven true or false.

 

[Ouro]

I think its cute everyone is an entomologist all of a sudden ^_^

 

[Lapras]

This is another reason why I dont believe Munna will be a drowzee pre-evo....colors for god sake.

If you look at some of the past Pokemon, you'll notice that colors mean nothing. Example: Dragonair into Dragonite.

I don't care for an Ariados so I hope this spider/bug Pokemon is new. If they have to create some evolutions of existing Pokemon then I hope they're single stage ones like Farfetch'd, Qwilfish, Corsola, etc.

And absolutely no prevolutions! They just take up Pokedex spaces. :/

 

[T-major]

And absolutely no prevolutions! They just take up Pokedex spaces. :/

you can't take up space if there is no set limit to the amount of Pokemon you can put in. taking up space would mean they are somehow taking a spot away from something else, which isn't true. they could put in however many they want. also, the prevo not being there doesn't necessarily mean another Pokemon would be there instead of it, it could mean we just have one less Pokemon.

 

[Redneck]

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I rather believe it is an evolution; look at the colour difference between Spinarak and Ariados, then into yellow; which fits very well. My next point is the abdomen, notice it has some sort of purple marking, which could easily be a face. Similarly it has the two sets of legs like ariados, plus the extra set on top of it. Yet another thing is the general shape of the legs if you remove the fur, which makes it look identical to Ariados' legs.

My main point is, if you're going to make another spider pokemon, why make it so similar to ariados but not an evolution? It doesn't have eight legs like normal spiders, just like ariados. It has the two things on its back, just like ariados. It has some sort of symbol on its back, just like ariados. Thusly I can really see this as some sort of evolution; possibly thunderstone?

A final note against my previous points is that we don't have the sugimori; thus we cannot tell its actual appearance, which only time will reveal to us.

 

[Sy123]

At the screenshot above, the leftmost pokemon looks like a tomb, an egyptian tomb???

 

[Redneck]

At the screenshot above, the leftmost pokemon looks like a tomb, an egyptian tomb???

Sarcophagus?

 

[The Pokemon Pimp]

At the screenshot above, the leftmost pokemon looks like a tomb, an egyptian tomb???

Haha yep. If you haven't been catching up to this thread, people either think it's Rock/Ghost, Ground/Ghost, or a Spiritomb evo.

Note: I'm not expressing my opinion, just stating facts.

 

[blasphemy1]

I'm skeptical about the tarantula being an Ariados evolution only because the extra set of legs come from underneath its abdomen, whereas Ariados' legs originate from the top. If it is an Ariados evolution, I would be so very happy. More attack and speed, and if it becomes Bug/Electric then more Special Attack as well (for use with Thunderbolt).