excuse me, but do elm calls advance ur egg frame number in hg?, i always do 12 calls to find out if my seed is correct, and does the starting frame of 3 apply to when ur getting a shiny, or when ur going for ivs? my egg frame is 12 i did 7 calls assuming a starting frame of five, four and then three, i hatched three eggs of no shiny, and now i have assumed that no they dont count, and am collecting and rejecting eggs, is this the right thing to do?