Pokemon Black & White, aka Gen 5. Coming to Japan in Fall 2010.

[Yakekuso]

gamefreak says no.

torchic could've been fire/flying (a chicken), but it becomes a street fighter instead.

piplup could've been water/ice (a penguin), but it becomes an fatass steel penguin instead.

I doubt that by being an otter Mijumaru would gain ground as its second typing just because it makes more sense.

Nintendo says no.

That's because of Blaziken :P

That's because of there being a rather large number of water/ice types already :P

Otters live by lakes and ground is simply a better typing for it to have than either ice or steel. Just too many weaknesses and not enough strengths with those typings.

 

[Ericcc]

Did people make fun of Torchic like they're doing of Pokabu? lol,

 

[TsengHyena]

Otters live by lakes and ground is simply a better typing for it to have than either ice or steel. Just too many weaknesses and not enough strengths with those typings.

Ground suggests its scared of water. Thats how Ground types are always shown in the anime.

There are only 4 different lines that have Water/Ice Pokemon. That really isn't that many.

 

[Res Ipsa Loquitur]

Otters live by lakes and ground is simply a better typing for it to have than either ice or steel. Just too many weaknesses and not enough strengths with those typings.

Who says its a river otter? Its thick build looks more like a sea otter to me. Look at this picture:

Sea otters are well-known for using rocks to smash open food. For this reason, I think that Water/Rock is far more likely than Water/Ground from a real-world argument standpoint. Of course, Empoleon shows us that they aren't exactly married to real-world arguments.

 

[Yakekuso]

Ground suggests its scared of water. Thats how Ground types are always shown in the anime.

Quagsire and Swampert are able to deal with it, I simply don't see Mijumaru being as you say.

Again, I'm talking about what is a better possibility for the water starter as opposed to what is most likely in the eyes of the anticipators. Water/rock and water/ice may sound cool to some extent but neither would be as useful as the secondary ground typing if Mijumaru is lucky enough to be blessed with it.

 

[TsengHyena]

Thats cause although they swim, they're more involved with mud. It looks like an error tbh that the anime made with them swimming.

 

[The Pokemon Pimp]

I guess the shell could imply a Rock background...but I associate shells more like Water-ish anyway (like Squirtle line)

For some starters it IS rather hard to tell, though...i.e. Blaziken.

 

[Yakekuso]

Thats cause although they swim, they're more involved with mud. It looks like an error tbh that the anime made with them swimming.

The anime sucks. Period.

I think that the error may have been classifying it solely as a sea otter IMO.

It could be a rock type but I'm not giving up my hopes for it.

 

[Shroomisaur]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I can't see the otter being Water/Rock and I don't want to see that either. We have enough Pokemon with that typing already and it makes no sense on this otter.

Although Fire/Ground sounds plausible on the fire pig, I'm still leaning towards Fire/Dark. We'll just have to wait and see.

My guesses at this point:

Water/Fighting
Fire/Dark
Grass (boring, but likely)

 

[TsengHyena]

So it seems the only guesses we can make is:

Water/Rock
Water/Ice
Water/Fighting

These seem the most likely imo.

 

[Sandstreamer]

Yeah, a Grass/Dragon would be awesome. I know that we never had a dragon this early, but I want to say that there also are some points going for this typing.
1. We did get a Steel starter last gen. And while I know that probably doesn't mean as much as a *zomg* Dragon, but it IS a really overpowered type and also usually not given away in great numbers.
2. It would make up for Sceptile not being Grass/Dragon. Sceptile totally fits that type (and could use it really well, STAB Draco Metor with that Stats, yes please!) GF could be trying to remake the "sceptile concept" but make it good this time. And GF tends to do this with many interetsing concept, that failed at first try...
(a) Quagsire -> Swampert (The most obvious, IMO)
(b) Dewgong -> Walrein
(c) Blaziken -> Infernape
(d) Pidgeot -> Staraptor
(e) Claydol -> Bronzong
And then some attempts where they (accidently?) made it worse, but let's hope they do not do that to Smugleaf... (And except for Gen2, the Starters always got better, so there's hope. xD)

 

[TsengHyena]

If its a Grass/Dragon, in order to balance Wotter will have to be Water/Ice.

 

[Yakekuso]

Tsutaja would simply be awesome if it ever got a secondary dragon typing to go with it to say the least. Draco Meteor says hi ^_^

Thay should just make Mijumaru plain in that case since the ice typing is simply uneeded IMO.

 

[blasphemy1]

Did people make fun of Torchic like they're doing of Pokabu? lol,

That's not cool... :(

Who says its a river otter? Its thick build looks more like a sea otter to me. Look at this picture:

Sea otters are well-known for using rocks to smash open food. For this reason, I think that Water/Rock is far more likely than Water/Ground from a real-world argument standpoint. Of course, Empoleon shows us that they aren't exactly married to real-world arguments.

I don't understand why everyone doesn't understand Empoleon. He is built like a penguin, sure, however his steel typing allows him to break through ice. This doesn't relate to penguins, but in frozen waters steel hulls of ships are necessary to break through ice. I really see Mijumaru being any number of types, least of which would be Water/Ground. My main guesses are Water/Fighting, Water/Rock, Water/Normal, and Water/Ice (or pure Water). My personal favorites for each starter:

Tsutaja: Grass/Dragon or Grass/Flying
Pokabu: Fire/Ground or Fire/Steel
Mijumaru: Water/Fighting or Water/Normal

 

[Yakekuso]

I'm going to facepalm if Mijumaru ever becomes part normal. It just sounds too bad for me to even imagine ATM.

 

[TsengHyena]

Thay should just make Mijumaru plain in that case since the ice typing is simply uneeded IMO.

It makes it unbalanced though, the three starters are meant to balance each other.

 

[Sandstreamer]

If its a Grass/Dragon, in order to balance Wotter will have to be Water/Ice.

The balance was screwed in gen4 anyways you shouldn't count on that.
(Both starters could hit Empoleon super effective, Torterra could hit Infernape super effective). Also, Grass/Dragon would not even affect the balance, as we had "overkill pwnage" since Charizard.

EDIT: If anything, Pokabu would have to become Ice, Flying, Bug, Dragon (yay for that) or Poison. THAT could be a problem, as any of these is extremely unlikely and/or terrible. But then, as I said before, they probably don't care as much about the balance, anyway...

 

[Away]

I'm going to facepalm if Mijumaru ever becomes part normal. It just sounds too bad for me to even imagine ATM.

How is that bad? Stab Return + Waterfall is provides fantastic coverage(only resisted by Empoleon and Shedinja).

 

[Tortferngatr]

If its a Grass/Dragon, in order to balance Wotter will have to be Water/Ice.

Hey, remember no Water/Ice has ever received sweeper stats.

A competitively useful Water/Ice sweeper with base 103 speed (to troll ol' 'Chompy with) would PWN.

 

[Yakekuso]

It makes it unbalanced though, the three starters are meant to balance each other.

Yet it would get raped by any rock and fighting type that could expose that secondary typing. Not only is the ice typing going to hurt Mijumaru in the long run, it's simply unoriginal IMO to say the least.

Oh, and Return is not that great for it to be used like that anyways due to Mijumaru possibly not having enough attack to abuse it since it is more likely that it is going to be focused around its special stats than physical.

 

[TsengHyena]

Unoriginal? no, thats Grass/Poison and Normal/Flying.

We need a good Water/Ice with a good movepool and good stats. Ice typing won't be as bad then.

 

[blasphemy1]

Yet it would get raped by any rock and fighting type that could expose that secondary typing. Not only is the ice typing going to hurt Mijumaru in the long run, it's simply unoriginal IMO to say the least.

Oh, and Return is not that great for it to be used like that anyways due to Mijumaru possibly not having enough attack to abuse it since it is more likely that it is going to be focused around its special stats than physical.

Return is one of the best moves in the game; what are you talking about? I'd prefer a Bibarel evolution though, and have Mijumaru be Water/Fighting.

 

[Yakekuso]

Unoriginal? no, thats Grass/Poison and Normal/Flying.

We need a good Water/Ice with a good movepool and good stats. Ice typing won't be as bad then.

There has already been at least 4 different water/ice types by now. Using the same typing 5 times now shouldn't be used on something like a starter for the sake of originality and overall usefulness due to the secondary ice typing only making it more vulnerable to more types of attacks. Besides, whether it is ice or not in the end, it's most likely that Mijumaru can at least be taught Ice Beam anyways.

Return is simply average IMO since I'm not much of a fan of base attack power to be determined. Probopass is going to get a evolution though.

 

[viol and bass]

If its a Grass/Dragon, in order to balance Wotter will have to be Water/Ice.

I don't understand this thing where everyone seems to think the starters need to be balanced. Look at gen 3. Sceptile is faster than Swampert and resists both of its STABs, while Sceptile's STAB is 4x effective on Swampert. I don't think they were aiming for balance with that particular combo....

 

[Yakekuso]

I don't understand this thing where everyone seems to think the starters need to be balanced. Look at gen 3. Sceptile is faster than Swampert and resists both of its STABs, while Sceptile's STAB is 4x effective on Swampert. I don't think they were aiming for balance with that particular combo....

I believe that gamefreak knew what they were doing when they made Swampert as powerful as it is. They just wanted to make sure that there would be at least 1 decent counter to it.