NBA Season 2009-2010

Just wanted to post quickly as an OKC Thunder fan - I jumped on the wagon the first season they came up. If I had a basketball team I'd name them the Thunder and add to that they're the closest team to where I live in AR. They are so much fun to watch.

Anyways, Durant signed a 5-year extension. In my opinion the team to beat in the next couple of years won't be the Bulls or the Heat or the Lakers. The Thunder are a rising team that have a good chance of going a long ways, especially if they are able to add a bit more experience and a bit more size to their roster.

I was actually able to go see the Kansas-N Iowa game live from just behind press where Kansas got beat and I've got to say that I was unimpressed with Aldrich's playing in that game. The N Iowa center pushed him all over the place. (I actually came to watch the BYU KState game but the tickets came in a doubleheader thingie so I got to see both games. Poor BYU...) Anyways, although I like the size Aldrich brings I'm sceptical of his ability to play in the NBA. Only time will tell...
 
Honestly I think LA did an extremely good job drafting Ebanks and Caracter. Ebanks was a projected top 10 pick at the beginning of the season and he fell into LA's lap. He should make the roster for sure, possibly even make it into the LA rotation as the backup 3 to Artest.

Also LA is in talks to sign Mcgrady and Raja Bell which would be great since id rather those 2 than Vujacic
 
Oh geez...Suns also gave up a 2nd round pick for Warrick? Seriously why? I'd rather them start a rookie we drafted (2 different PFs for pete's sake) than overpay for a backup.
 
I've heard Ebanks is Ariza 2.0 (when he was good). His needs a lot of work in his defensive mechanics but at the very least, he tries to play defense lol.

And speaking of the Suns, Earl Clark has looked horrible. Almost Daniel Orton bad looool
 
Just read that the Suns got Hedo Turkoglu for Leandro Barbosa, and also got Josh Childress. Good moves that add talent, hopefully they work for the Suns.

Also, I didn't know that the Heat traded Michael Beasley to the Timberwolves =/
 
I love the Childress move, Leandro no longer fits our team as well as he once has, Childress add depth at the SG/SF position and can play really solid defense whereas everyone walked over the Blur. J Chill can start on almost any team and for now should be behind J Rich, a good move for now and for the future.

I'll reserve judgment on Hedo for now, he is a solid point forward, and his defense is ok, I just hope he doesn't get abused all day, though with the rest of the team he provides match-up nightmares.

Nash/Dragic
Richardson/Childress
Hill/Dudley
Turkoglu/Warrick
Lopez/Frye

The Suns are about as deep as a team you can get, like last year, I expect our bench to be able to keep up with the starters of other teams and really wear teams out because of the nonstop barrage of scoring and versatility. The main weakness is rebounding and post defense, but with the zone and good help defense and the amazing offensive prowess it shouldn't become that big of a problem.
 
People like you wrote them off last year, look what happened, they made it to the WCF. Keep saying they won't be good, won't make ___________, the team feeds off that mentality in an effort to prove how wrong people are about the best TEAM in basketball.
 
yeah great move on bc shipping out that shit contract of hedos. hours later, this idiot is reporting to waste his TPE on boris diaw. i've known all along that bc is trying to recreate the old suns team. this guy needs to get fired. but whatever makes the raptors worst next year, it just lets them have a higher chance at the lottery, no way in hell raps are getting past first round this year, let alone make thee playoffs. might as well tank and get lucky at the lottery.
 
fmsYEAH said:
The addition of Carlos Boozer does not make the Bulls a legit team. He'll do great during the regular season, he'll post up some nice numbers, but he's not going to lead them to the promised land in the postseason. No defense, meh offense against teams that have someone who can defend him (lollakers). The Bulls are gonna need more than Boozer to be legit.
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The Bulls needed a post player, extra scoring punch in general, and extra rebounding, and they got it (seriously, who the fuck will EVER outrebound them? They have top 5 rebounders for their position for the entire frontcourt including a DPOY-caliber player). And with Noah, Deng (elite defender at SF), and Rose (pretty good PG defender), with Tom Thibodeau coaching that team, D is the LEAST of their worries.
 
People like you wrote them off last year, look what happened, they made it to the WCF.
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i wrote them off against the lakers. look what happen, i'm a prophet.

Keep saying they won't be good, won't make ___________, the team feeds off that mentality in an effort to prove how wrong people are about the best TEAM in basketball.
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vague magic words that don't mean anything. you won't do shit if you don't have good rebounders. their only 5-man is lopez. everybody else is either an undersized 4 or is forced to play the 4.

they aren't making the playoffs playing extremely small ball and even if they did it's just be a first round embarrassing sweep to the lakers/whoever is the 2 seed.

just ask the warriors.
 
Ancien Régime said:
The Bulls needed a post player, extra scoring punch in general, and extra rebounding, and they got it (seriously, who the fuck will EVER outrebound them? They have top 5 rebounders for their position for the entire frontcourt including a DPOY-caliber player). And with Noah, Deng (elite defender at SF), and Rose (pretty good PG defender), with Tom Thibodeau coaching that team, D is the LEAST of their worries.
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yea bulls are looking great this year. deng is not the same as he was before and not exactly the elite defender he was a few years ago. he also lost his mid-game touch (once the up to par with carmelo anthony in terms of mid-range shooting). the bulls just need to make a few changes and get a better wing and a better sf and they are set to compete for top 4.
 
DerrickRose said:
i wrote them off against the lakers. look what happen, i'm a prophet.
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I'm talking about preseason. Check out what just ESPN had to say, every media outlet, every fan wrote them off. No playoffs, just a lottery bound team, instead they ended up with the 3 seed, swept their biggest postseason rival.

vague magic words that don't mean anything. you won't do shit if you don't have good rebounders. their only 5-man is lopez. everybody else is either an undersized 4 or is forced to play the 4.
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What has changed from last year? Hedo isn't the best rebounder yes, but you fail to understand Suns basketball. They are team rebounders, the bigs box out and let the wings grab the rebounds, everything is a team effort, they have great chemistry and they all trust each other to get the job done. They spent the first part of last season with Frye at the 5, and they jumped out to the best record, so I fail to see how the lack of more 5's affects the Suns at all. Rebounding is about hustle and effort, the Suns don't lack that at all.

they aren't making the playoffs playing extremely small ball and even if they did it's just be a first round embarrassing sweep to the lakers/whoever is the 2 seed.

just ask the warriors.
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Again what changed from last year? Starting Hedo over Amare is about it, and Hedo has better basketball IQ, spreads the floor more than Amare could and can even dish it himself. They aren't playing extremely small ball and they are not the Warriors, the Warriors are full of players who need the ball to be effective and headcases, neither of which exist on the Suns. I think you forget Hedo was the starting 4 on the Finals Magic team, Fropez is no Dwight, but Hedo can certainly do damage and be effective in the Suns zone. Not to mention the Suns have the deepest team in the league, while other teams are resting starters and putting 3-4 scrubs on the floor, the Suns are still attacking with a second unit that puts up better numbers than many starting 5s.

I'm not the biggest fan of the Hedo pickup, but understand Suns basketball before you make vague criticisms and generalizations like you have.
 
What has changed from last year? Hedo isn't the best rebounder yes, but you fail to understand Suns basketball. They are team rebounders, the bigs box out and let the wings grab the rebounds, everything is a team effort, they have great chemistry and they all trust each other to get the job done.
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the team effort was so great that their rebounding was impressive against the Lakers!

They spent the first part of last season with Frye at the 5, and they jumped out to the best record, so I fail to see how the lack of more 5's affects the Suns at all. Rebounding is about hustle and effort, the Suns don't lack that at all.
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rebounding is also about size and length.

what happened during the collapse mid-season and the resurgence near the end when you played somewhat traditional basketball by starting lopez? frye even still came off the bench when lopez had the back injury.


I think you forget Hedo was the starting 4 on the Finals Magic team
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hedo was a small forward, not a power forward.

you are expecting hedo to guard people like pau gasol, kevin garnett, chris bosh.

your paint defense is going to be so horrible that you will be playing like the warriors. the comparison to the warriors is more about running up and down the floor with a thin frontline and having a post defense so incredibly bad. heck, at least ronnie turiaf is a natural 4.

but understand Suns basketball before you make vague criticisms and generalizations like you have.
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i understand what suns basketball is. i'm just criticizing it because it's never going to win them anything significant other than a great regular season run. maybe you don't understand what 'undersized' means when you only watch suns basketball, but when you watch ALL teams, size and rebounding does matter in the paint, and expecting hedo to guard those guys is just asking for trouble.

they aren't better than last year unless they get bodies that will rebound for them over length and guard bigger paint players. amare is bigger than hedo even if his effort was halfway there. you can't rely on lopez to be your only real big body on the team.
 
Fisher is gonna resign with the Lakers while Mike Miller brings his talents to South Beach. Oh and Udonis Haslem is also returning.

In other news the sky is blue.
 
Something tells me Haslem has to be getting some deal under the table because hes just that type of player that cant really afford to pass up on 13 million over the span of his contract, but then again thats a debate id rather avoid since none of us can actually prove that or not.

Either way Im still not sold until Lebron can fold and realize hes the robin of this team and wont be batman anytime soon. Otherwise I see them winning a ring in 2-3 seasons, and most likely multiple rings. If he doesnt, I can easily see this being the hugest bust since Kwame Brown and Michael Olowalakandi

In a bit of a side debate, I got into an argument with someone today who claimed LA and Boston did it in the 80's with 3 superstars, and my side of it was that Magic and Worthy were drafted to LA while Bird/Mchale were drafted to Boston as well. I just found it interesting and wanted to see what others thought on that topic
 
Oh yeah didn't see this before but the Nets have signed Farmar.

So the Nets went into the offseason hoping to get Wall, LeBron and *insert marquee PF here*

and they got... Farmar, Travis Outlaw and Derrick Favors....

...Ouch
 
Lakers said:
Yeh man, and Dexter Pittman/Joel Anthony are gonna be the greatest tandom of centers ever on a team mark it down right now since rookie centers who werent even that good in college drop 20/10 everytime in their first year and this just in: Mario Chalmers has already locked up MVP for the next season since he has some great hidden potential that makes everyone think hes actually more than just an average PG

Im still waiting for you to answer me by the way how you expect three people who dont know what losing really is yet to forfeit shots and ego's just for winning. Please explain to me how a 25 year old with a big ass head and sky high ego is gonna sacrafice shots for the team when hes used to having the entire offense ran through him please tell me
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You are retarded. their first sign of ego control is already forfeiting millions to play with each other. after all the shit wade went through the past 2 years with his shit team you dont think he'll gladly give up shots?

not to mention, i've been suggesting players the heat can possibly get. they only have minimum contracts. 1.4 mil contracts to give out. who the fuck do you expect them to get? just because they can't get fucking big names doesn't mean they wont win a championship. look at the fucking rockets. we nearly made the playoffs with CHUCK FUCKING HAYES as our starting center the entire year. so yes, a d leaguer can fucking make a difference stop being ignorant.

also you're clowning on all of heats players and then use jermaine oneal as a positive thing for the celtics? the jermaine oneal who BARELY broke like tdouble digit total points for his r1 series? shit joel anthony did far better than him in last years playoffs so dont give me that shit
 
Aeroblacktyl said:
You are retarded. their first sign of ego control is already forfeiting millions to play with each other. after all the shit wade went through the past 2 years with his shit team you dont think he'll gladly give up shots?

not to mention, i've been suggesting players the heat can possibly get. they only have minimum contracts. 1.4 mil contracts to give out. who the fuck do you expect them to get? just because they can't get fucking big names doesn't mean they wont win a championship. look at the fucking rockets. we nearly made the playoffs with CHUCK FUCKING HAYES as our starting center the entire year. so yes, a d leaguer can fucking make a difference stop being ignorant.

also you're clowning on all of heats players and then use jermaine oneal as a positive thing for the celtics? the jermaine oneal who BARELY broke like tdouble digit total points for his r1 series? shit joel anthony did far better than him in last years playoffs so dont give me that shit
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Yeh man, they really sacraficed... Instead of taking 16.6 million a year Bosh and Lebron took 14.5 for their first year while Wade took 14 million for his first season... DAM THEIR STRUGGLIN JUST TO MAKE ENDS MEET. Honestly that might've been the stupidest point you could've mentioned. If Lebron really cared about this team he would've taken a 5-6 million dollar a year contract since most of his money comes from sponsorships with Nike/Sprite/other companies that pay him over 20 million a year. If he did that then they could've easily signed a solid big man to compliment Bosh and basically lock up a title for them

Wade's won before, Miami is his city hes the batman of this team... Lebron isnt gonna have that, he wont accept a Robin role as he basically all but gives up his chance at trying to be G.O.A.T (which he has already by going to Miami).

Also Jermaine was averaging 20 pts per game at one point in the season, so yes him coming off the bench for the Celtics while starting until Perkins comes back is a pretty big positive. Why do you mention one playoff series? Hes not going to be starting on the Celtics anyway so he provides great big man depth off the bench... Are you seriously that stupid?

Also the rest of the Rockets team, including their bench was somewhat deep. Yeh Chuck Hayes sucks but you fail to mention how literally the rest of their starting 5 was solid including their bench. Aaron Brooks might be the most underrated PG in the entire league

By the way, CHALMERS SUCKS. Everyone keeps holding this guy on a pedistool just like Joakin Noah, I must've went into a coma for a few months because I never knew 2 average NBA players could be regarded so highly by free agent period of this year.
 
why do you keep bringing sprewell references. the point is that they took 6+ million less money for their team to add servicable players like haslem and potentially miller. and you're even more retarded. there's a difference between a 2-3 million paycut and a 10 million dollar paycut. do you not realize the huge amount of money that is? by your logic everyone can live off 75k a year. we should all just say fuck money. right.

and how will you know how lebron feels? this hasn't happen before where 3 all stars in their prime actually joined together to win a title. since you're so sure of whats going to happen i suppose you'd easily be able to bet on every outcome right? did i say anywhere that this will work? no, i said it -could- work but you're so fast to dismiss the remote possibility that it could happen. you're still retarded

also lololol

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/3120/splits;_ylt=AvPF_8i7YcYnNUKafUOEhXUfPKB4

yeah 20ppg at one point. you mean the 2 games he played in october. lol k.
and why wouldn't i bring up the playoffs? he was unable to do anything remotely positive on the biggest stage where it mattered

yeah rockets bench are deep. behind chuck hayes we played...david andersen...lol....
 
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