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This thing should get spore anyone else agree hmm.

Probably not unless it evolves into a mushroom...
 
I'm talking about building ONE team to use in battle that is not horribly destroyed by mad team matchups. This already happens in 4th Gen, but it's not that common and still possible to circumvent, but in 5th Gen, with ~650 pokémon, unless the metagame has positive changes and/or balancing, shit will get worse.

It's gonna get to the point where there will be so many viable Pokemon that people will start using their favorites. I have nothing wrong with that, actually.
 
I'm sure not too much will change. Just continuing the Pokemon tradition of certain Pokemon now outclassing others.. sending them to UU. vice versa. Or a certain 4 moves will continue to kill the threats a pokemon is worried about.

yes there will be obviously new combos and pokemon/abilities.. but no one knows whether they will be strong enough to be a threat.. or just have a cool combo and go to UU NU.
 
I have srious doubts Leafworm will get spore; Leaf Blade is possible for its Evo; morning sun/moonlight also are... can't really tell how much use this is going to have

...Have you guys ever competitively played any generation before DPPt? Sincere question here.

no; I started playing pokemon in RSE but never played it competitively then... DPPt was the only gen I've actually played competitively. I kinda want to learn Adv. though

Oh and will meanswan be physical based or special, do you think? either way, it's likely to get both drill peck and air slash
 
...Have you guys ever competitively played any generation before DPPt? Sincere question here.
Can't say I have, though I do know one of the bigger differences was a shift from a defensive metagame to an offensive once.

Honestly I've never really heard about team balance problems, and the war-stories I've read show that it's kind of "stagnant" I guess. OU anyway?
 
Aww... IMO Fire/Psychic is crap. Weakness to SR and Pursuit seems like too much to use it over Celebi or Jirachi.

The problem with competitive speculation like this is that we're just basing them off of the current metagame. Which wont exist later on anyway (Of course, people will try to use their past teams with new twists, DPP metagame strategies will die out as new ones are born, boosting or crapping on other Pokemon etc etc). There is still hope.

If you used Scizor in Gen3, I'd probably laugh at you. Now look at it...



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This thing should get spore anyone else agree hmm.

Yes, it deserves Spore.

Holy moses that thing is so ridiculously adorable :3



I wonder what Dento's role ingame will be? Apparently he lives in some nice lookin' castle-esque thing o_O I doubt he's a gym leader then... Hmm. Aloe is probably a Gym leader, I'm going to assume Grass or Water type gym.

Shikijika and the Swan are decent. Don't hate, don't love.
 
I love the little Bug thing but come on: Fire/Psychic? For Vicinti? Granted Jirachi doesn't really look Steel/Psychic but really?
yeah really. what? this is a problem? practically every pixie Pokemon has been part Psychic so far, so that's one typing that you shouldn't be surprised about. Fire was guessed by people due to it's colour, and it looks as much like a fire type as the Vulpix line does, so you also shouldn't be upset about that either. regardless, it's an original typing, so why are you complaining? I thought original typings were good? what typing were you expecting that would have been so much better?

now.

*ahem*

I love that new Caterpillar. looks Bug/Grass, which is awesome, I just hope it doesn't become another Bug/Flying in it's final stage. I wonder if it will have a split evo, like Wurple and Burmy did? Shikijika looks nice too, and it seems more designed when we can see the line around it's body. that Swan, however... I don't much like the design, but the art has it in a "you wanna go, punk!?" pose, which is just awesome.
 
I'm talking about building ONE team to use in battle that is not horribly destroyed by mad team matchups. This already happens in 4th Gen, but it's not that common and still possible to circumvent, but in 5th Gen, with ~650 pokémon, unless the metagame has positive changes and/or balancing, shit will get worse.
I understand what you're saying, but it's really inevitable. Even if they wanted to, Game Freak can't exactly keep increasing team size forever. A team with 8 members might be fine, but eventually we'll reach the same problem again, and teams would need to be expanded to 10, then 12, etc, and there's obvious problems with that. Namely, it increases battle length, especially in the case of stall and such. It also lengthens the amount of time it takes to train up a whole team, though that's not quite as relevant.

In any case though, the point is that unless Game Freak actually "starts over" at some point, what you're worried about can't be helped in the long run, so why bother and try to delay the inevitable? Game Freak likes teams of 6 and I agree with that--it works out pretty well. Six isn't too huge and unwieldy, nor is it too small. It also has matches working out to be a good length (barring some stall matches and the like)--not over super fast, but not taking too long either. And that's something I don't want to be altered over something that can't be helped in the long run, unless we keep increasing team size and thus the average length of a battle to much larger levels, which doesn't seem that great to me. Between that and matches becoming more luck-based in a sense due to not being able to handle everything with just one team, I'd rather choose the later, myself.
 
Yeah, but we don't want an inferior Paras

Hey, don't be trying to insult Paras and Parasect. Give them a Trick Room and they'll destroy or Spore everything.

But yes, I would like to see a rather large difference in style between Paras and Leafapiller (Insert Cute Bug Name Here). Maybe this one could be faster, a bit frail, and an option to go Mixed. Though likely more physical. I mean, that thing HAS to get Razor Leaf and Leaf Blade, at least.
 
Idk if anyone's done this yet, but here is a complete run down of Victini's weaknesses and resistances, courtesy of my Poketch:

Normal: X1
Fire: X0.5
Water: X2
Electric: X1
Grass: X0.5
Ice: X0.5
Fighting: X0.5
Poison: X1
Ground: X2
Flying: X1
Psychic: X0.5
Bug: X1
Rock: X2
Ghost: X2
Dragon: X1
Dark: X2
Steel: X0.5

If he were to be a sweeper, this is not a single type that would resist both his STABs. Who knows...maybe Psychic will be a more useful offensive type in Gen V.

Damn, I hope he's OU. I want him on my team so bad >w<.
 
We really should have guessed Psychic typing for Victini it being such a common typing for the pixies.
Sure, the typing is a mixed bag but it will be quite fast/bulky and should be able to take advantage of the Fighting resistance.

There is also the little matter of what its ability does.
How can a Pokemon based on the theme of "victory" not have an epic signature ability?
I feel it's going to be good.
 
Idk if anyone's done this yet, but here is a complete run down of Victini's weaknesses and resistances, courtesy of my Poketch:

Normal: X1
Fire: X0.5
Water: X2
Electric: X1
Grass: X0.5
Ice: X0.5
Fighting: X0.5
Poison: X1
Ground: X2
Flying: X1
Psychic: X0.5
Bug: X1
Rock: X2
Ghost: X2
Dragon: X1
Dark: X2
Steel: X0.5

If he were to be a sweeper, this is not a single type that would resist both his STABs. Who knows...maybe Psychic will be a more useful offensive type in Gen V.

Damn, I hope he's OU. I want him on my team so bad >w<.

As previously discussed, his STABs are resisted by Water/Dark, Water/Psychic, Dark/Fire, Rock/Psychic, any possible Dragon/Darks (eg Kibago evo), Lati Twins, Tyranitar, Heatran. If a special sweeper, he needs Dragon Pulse + Aura Sphere/Earth Power, or something to that effect.
 
I said resisted by not one SINGLE type. Dual typings are always an exception. I saw the post with the pokes that can wall him...


EDIT: I should've made that clearer...
 
As previously discussed, his STABs are resisted by Water/Dark, Water/Psychic, Dark/Fire, Rock/Psychic, any possible Dragon/Darks (eg Kibago evo), Lati Twins, Tyranitar, Heatran. If a special sweeper, he needs Dragon Pulse + Aura Sphere/Earth Power, or something to that effect.

Aura Sphere I could see him/her getting. Maybe Earth Power. But honestly, he has such great coverage, I don't think Victini needs a Dragon move.
 
Why do people keep calling the new bird Pokemon a swan. It's clearly a goose. As in Momma Goose. Right down to the sassy pose and blue bra.

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EDIT: On googling said pictures of Geese and Swans it does appear to be a swan... based off of Mother Goose. Creativity.
 
Why do people keep calling the new bird Pokemon a swan. It's clearly a goose. As in Momma Goose. Right down to the sassy pose and blue bra.

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EDIT: On googling said pictures of Geese and Swans it does appear to be a swan... based off of Mother Goose. Creativity.
I still say Aloe has one
They even have the same pose
 
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