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Boring face-off, nothing can be inferred from it. Everything just had values too low to be used.


And are we sure Complete Burn really is a signature move?
Aw, sucks, well still good try!
We're not sure, but seeing as how it was leaked with Victini itself and has a lot to do with him (showing only him use it and all, I think it is, but we can't confirm that..
 
Then that move would be broken completely if it destroyed all items.
Not necessarily. After all, see: Knock Off, which is what it would basically be in that case, for all intents and purposes in Wi-Fi/Shoddy battles. If it just turns out to be a slightly more powerful Knock Off, I'd really doubt it would be broken.
 
Not necessarily. After all, see: Knock Off, which is what it would basically be in that case, for all intents and purposes in Wi-Fi/Shoddy battles. If it just turns out to be a slightly more powerful Knock Off, I'd really doubt it would be broken.


Not only that, but nothing has immunity to knock off... scarftran can still readily revenge victini xD
 
I thought Sticky Hold did?



Er; let me rephrase that, nothing has immunity to knock off's damage. Though yeah you are right that sticky hold stops it... but unless you're running Gastrodon in UU (Or Gastrodead, as rolf calls it) it's not of much significance

Oh and where is Lucalibr?

He stopped going on this thread for some reason
 
But let's not forget others were saying that it was broken if it destroyed all items, not only one, like knock off, though I still don't agree
Pretty sure Kitsunine just meant any time of items, instead of just berries, by "all items." But anyway, it doesn't matter I suppose, since it didn't seem to give any indication of destroying the whole team's items, so whatever.
 
Pretty sure Kitsunine just meant any time of items, instead of just berries, by "all items." But anyway, it doesn't matter I suppose, since it didn't seem to give any indication of destroying the whole team's items, so whatever.

Yeah, I just meant that maybe it isn't limited to berries, but whatever the opponent may be holding.
 
It is a little depressing that Incinerate only destroys berries. I sorta hope it destroys items period like a Fire-type Knock Off. But probably not. Victory Star has a pretty boring concept but it's probably pretty useful. Do we know exactly what "increases accuracy" means? That's pretty good either way for Fire Blast.
 
Pretty sure Kitsunine just meant any time of items, instead of just berries, by "all items." But anyway, it doesn't matter I suppose, since it didn't seem to give any indication of destroying the whole team's items, so whatever.
Oh, thanks for the clear up. And all I'm asking for is decent damage, at least Base 80 or something..
 
The move is called Complete Burn, and completely incinerates everything 100% of the time; what they didn't specify is that the move only target's the opponent's Berry. Woot!

On a serious note, I think it would be a great move if if destroyed all items. It would definitely make up for any kind of low base damage it might have. Also, Victini's ability is a great touch. I can image some serious Fire Blast usage, and teaming up with Starmie for doubles if it's in OU. In fact, with Triple battle coming along, the ability seems even MORE useful than before. I think that's something that will really give it the niche.
 
The move is called Complete Burn, and completely incinerates everything 100% of the time; what they didn't specify is that the move only target's the opponent's Berry. Woot!

On a serious note, I think it would be a great move if if destroyed all items. It would definitely make up for any kind of low base damage it might have. Also, Victini's ability is a great touch. I can image some serious Fire Blast usage, and teaming up with Starmie for doubles if it's in OU.
We knew about the berry thing, lol. And y
 
Anyways, what are you guys hoping for in the leaks?

I'm hoping we get some insight on new items. I'm not sure we've heard anything about them so far.

I wonder if they'll make a defensive Choice item… How would it work?

The first idea that comes to me is something like this:

Choice… uh… let's say Hat.
Description: Boosts both Defences by 1.5, but allows only the use of moves that aren't affected by Taunt.


Doesn't sound so good from a competitive perspective, right? Would you rather have a boost in taking damage, or the ability to use Recover?

I just noticed… something like this wouldn't actually help Tanks. It would help something like Bulky Sweepers. But… who knows.
 
Choice… uh… let's say Hat.
Description: Boosts both Defences by 1.5, but allows only the use of moves that aren't affected by Taunt.


Doesn't sound so good from a competitive perspective, right? Would you rather have a boost in taking damage, or the ability to use Recover?

I just noticed… something like this wouldn't actually help Tanks. It would help something like Bulky Sweepers. But… who knows.

That doesn't really seem like a Choice item technically, IMO, since Choice moves revolve around being forced to use one move. However, you have an idea here-- maybe there could be an item that could be sort of like a forced Taunt for some kind of defensive boost? OR maybe even an offensive or speed boost? I'm not sure if the latter would be too destructive or not, but it would be not be usable by stat-uppers at least, and you could sort of... "absorb" Taunt.
 
I'm hoping we get some insight on new items. I'm not sure we've heard anything about them so far.

I wonder if they'll make a defensive Choice item… How would it work?

The first idea that comes to me is something like this:

Choice… uh… let's say Hat.
Description: Boosts both Defences by 1.5, but allows only the use of moves that aren't affected by Taunt.


Doesn't sound so good from a competitive perspective, right? Would you rather have a boost in taking damage, or the ability to use Recover?

I just noticed… something like this wouldn't actually help Tanks. It would help something like Bulky Sweepers. But… who knows.
That's an awesome idea, and it would help pokemon like Hariyama, but it would get very complicated, lol. I hope for new items as well, we need them.
 
That doesn't really seem like a Choice item technically, IMO, since Choice moves revolve around being forced to use one move. However, you have an idea here-- maybe there could be an item that could be sort of like a forced Taunt for some kind of defensive boost? OR maybe even an offensive or speed boost? I'm not sure if the latter would be too destructive or not, but it would be not be usable by stat-uppers at least, and you could sort of... "absorb" Taunt.

im still waiting for my counter-taunt, like a move that makes you only use non-attacking moves, that would be game breaking, what do you think the new dragon will be like?
 
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I say it bears a good resemblence.
 
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