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Riski said:
Like I said, I need more info. What's your wanted delay and seconds and what results are you getting instead?
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my delay is 2332 for the time of 05:00:50 and I set the DS to 04:59:00 and I am getting anywhere from 1 second to 9 seconds off of my actual delay second. I have been trying for a while too and I know I have to be pretty close to hitting the a button when the timer is at zero.

Also, I have an DSi AR and if I use it to start the game am I suppose to hit a on the first timer at the boot game with codes menu?
 
reklaw_vahn said:
my delay is 2332 and I am getting anywhere from 1 second to 9 seconds off of my actual delay second. I have been trying for a while too and I know I have to be pretty close to hitting the a button when the timer is at zero.

Also, I have an DSi AR and if I use it to start the game am I suppose to hit a on the first timer at the boot game with codes menu?
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These results suggest to me that you either didn't calibrate properly prior to starting your RNG project or you're not setting your clock properly for the countdowns. What exactly are you doing/using to time your RNG?

Edit: Saw that you edited your post.

Absolutely don't have the game codes menu on the AR showing. It should be just game start on the AR. Something about the game codes menu frigs up the RNG results. At least it did for me. Having just the Game start menu for the AR was usually fine. Basically, do not have it on the menu that changes which codes are in use prior to starting the game. It has to be the first start screen, the one that doesn't change any codes.
 
Hey I've got a question regarding JAVARNG + RNGReporter. In Java RNG I get a seed with many possible frames.

ex.
seed is: db15062a

In the frames column I get numbers ranging from 17 to 255.

I want to hit this seed and use Frame 17 for my capture.

In RNGReporter when I look for the seed in SeedFinder by IVs, it says "Method 1 Frame - 256".

Am I not looking for Method K if I'm trying to RNG for the Enigma Stone Latias? Why does it say Method 1?

How do I make it so that I can hit the seed when it's Frame 17 and not Frame 256?

Hope this was understandable and thanks in advance.
 
Riski said:
These results suggest to me that you either didn't calibrate properly prior to starting your RNG project or you're not setting your clock properly for the countdowns. What exactly are you doing/using to time your RNG?

Edit: Saw that you edited your post.

Absolutely don't have the game codes menu on the AR showing. It should be just game start on the AR. Something about the game codes menu frigs up the RNG results. At least it did for me. Having just the Game start menu for the AR was usually fine. Basically, do not have it on the menu that changes which codes are in use prior to starting the game. It has to be the first start screen, the one that doesn't change any codes.
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The problem with that is that I have the DSi AR and it starts up differently than the original. Instead of the red start up button you press start and it asks you "do you want to boot with these codes?" then I press yes and the game starts. There is no other way to start the game.
 
Also, I am trying to use the PokeRNG program by Wisshu and I don't know how to figure out how many frames I need to advance. Where is that information when it comes out in the notepad?
 
Zerofocus said:
Hey I've got a question regarding JAVARNG + RNGReporter. In Java RNG I get a seed with many possible frames.

ex.
seed is: db15062a

In the frames column I get numbers ranging from 17 to 255.

I want to hit this seed and use Frame 17 for my capture.

In RNGReporter when I look for the seed in SeedFinder by IVs, it says "Method 1 Frame - 256".

Am I not looking for Method K if I'm trying to RNG for the Enigma Stone Latias? Why does it say Method 1?

How do I make it so that I can hit the seed when it's Frame 17 and not Frame 256?

Hope this was understandable and thanks in advance.
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im not sure about your questions but i hit my delay and called elm the right number of times, twice, for my latios (i have HG) and it didnt work twice so i dont recomend doing it cause i think the character Steven messes everything up lol
 
Zerofocus said:
Hey I've got a question regarding JAVARNG + RNGReporter. In Java RNG I get a seed with many possible frames.

ex.
seed is: db15062a

In the frames column I get numbers ranging from 17 to 255.

I want to hit this seed and use Frame 17 for my capture.

In RNGReporter when I look for the seed in SeedFinder by IVs, it says "Method 1 Frame - 256".

Am I not looking for Method K if I'm trying to RNG for the Enigma Stone Latias? Why does it say Method 1?

How do I make it so that I can hit the seed when it's Frame 17 and not Frame 256?

Hope this was understandable and thanks in advance.
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On the main RNG reporter options/page, in the top left corner there's a drop down that lists Methods. Change it to Method K before hitting generate. In the new list generated, it should show Frame: 17, Actual: 256 ...ignore the actual column, it's just showing the Method 1 frame.

EDIT: I'm not sure if I understood your question the first time lol. Just call Elm...it'll follow the pattern of the Method K list...and just get to frame 16 according to the method K list and then talk to Latios. Remember that there's a lot of npcs in Pewter so you may have to adjust as you try.

EDIT2: I just put in your seed into the RNG reporter and frame 17 on Method K does not correspond to frame 256 on Method 1...so either you did something wrong, or I did not understand your information.

EDIT3: Okay after looking at the spreads, I assume you want to get this

seed: db15062a
frame: 1
IVs: 29/24/30/29/29/31
Timid

Let me tell you, you are NEVER going to get able to get this one. Choose one with a higher frame. I suggest 10+
 
reklaw_vahn said:
Also, I am trying to use the PokeRNG program by Wisshu and I don't know how to figure out how many frames I need to advance. Where is that information when it comes out in the notepad?
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the only thing that comes out on the notepad is your seed. You then copy and paste it in RNG reporter and then click seed time and then enter the desired info and then hit the top generate and then pick your time you want to do it at (doesnt really matter lol) then hit the lower generate button and that is where you can check your elm responses but then hit OK and on the main screen (of RNG) it should show the frames in numerical order and then just scroll down till you find the spread you want

EDIT: Its Wichu btw
 
reklaw_vahn said:
Also, I am trying to use the PokeRNG program by Wisshu and I don't know how to figure out how many frames I need to advance. Where is that information when it comes out in the notepad?
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Well, it may not be the DSi AR at fault, but how you calibrated before you started to RNG and basic understanding of the RNG steps, judging by the above question. Go read my noob guide and choose a simple standing legendary to do or try a breeding project. Follow the steps I laid out while you are doing the RNG. Reading them while not doing the RNG is not advised. It's too much to remember.

I'm signing off, so good luck.
 
No...but you are restricted in time simply because of the NPC movements that are present in the area. As long as you hit your target time and target delay, you have to worry about the NPC advancing your frames past your target. Just doing it as fast as possible is the only way around it ^^
 
Riski said:
Well, it may not be the DSi AR at fault, but how you calibrated before you started to RNG and basic understanding of the RNG steps, judging by the above question. Go read my noob guide and choose a simple standing legendary to do or try a breeding project. Follow the steps I laid out while you are doing the RNG. Reading them while not doing the RNG is not advised. It's too much to remember.

I'm signing off, so good luck.
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I do have a very good basic understanding of the steps. The problem is that many of you have different ways of doing some of them. You for instance have told me a very different way to calibrate compared to Bearsfan and another user. So I am getting quite lost as to what to do. Oh well. I need to go to work. I will try again later.
 
The purpose of calibration is the same. It doesn't matter the method as long as you're able to figure out your seconds/delay from it. Bearsfanvid, Riski's guide, and the official guide has it pretty much the same methinks.
 
I haven't tried the event but is it possible to save in front of latias?

Edit: shen- that seed also gave me a possible frame of 41 if I recall correctly. I will double check tomorrow as my comp is not on right now
 
That's not a bad spread at all to be honest...though then again I'm certainly not exactly picky, haha...so my opinion there might be mute compared to that of the rest.
Enigma Stone Lati@s just have caught location in Pewter City, lol. That's it methinks ^^
 
Zerofocus said:
Would a 29/24/30/29/29/31 shiny spread be worth rnging? Is this latias somehow distinguished from others latias?
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Yes the spread does repeat on 41. If this is not a shiny spread, then I don't see why you wouldn't just go for flawless. It'd take the same effort.

You hit even delays right? (judging from the current seed you chose)...

seed: AA1309D2
frame: 21
IVs: 31/28/31/31/31/31

There are a lot more, but this is just one example...
 
If it is a shiny spread at frame 1 would it be shiny at 41?

Also hitting 'x' to open the menu prevents npc movement correct? If so them why do I have to advance the frame as fast as possible?


Thanks

edit: with my ID (56929) and SID (59873) if I remember right , that was the best shiny spread from javarng. I hit both even/ odd delays so it isn't an issue
 
NPC movements stop when you open the window, but it depends on how fast you are. Since their movements are random, you could be unlucky. In Pewter City...there're more than one 1 roaming NPC...so it might take more than one try upon hitting your delay, but you can do it if you're determined :)
 
It'll be shiny at frame 1 and 41 because both frames share the same PID (this is not always the case however, you should always check this).

Yes frames stop advancing after you press 'x' and you can move between the buttons on the bottom screen. Where you start doesn't really matter as long as you know you're not going to be starting at frame 1. After your first try at hitting your delay, you can check to see what frame you started on. As long as you're consistent, you'll always start on this frame.

The only worry you should have is the frame advancing AFTER you made your elm calls and trying to talk to latios fast enough. There are a lot of NPCs in Pewter so you might not be able to talk to it fast enough, depending on your save, so you may have to adjust your elm calls for that.
 
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