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Pokemon Black and White (SPECULATIONS ALLOWED HERE)
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Sharpedo & Garchomp:
Sharks
Have a star pattern (!!!)
Messed up fin
Still kind of based on torpedos (most notable in the 3D games)
Plusle & Minun:
Just look at them! You could even compare them to Pichu if you wanted
Most of the cute pudgy pink Pokemon are similar.
Joke answer: Nosepass family & Gigaiasu
I suppose "fringe theory" would be the best words but I think that implies that it might actually be true more than I would like.
I really hate those theories (it's people trying to make something out of nothing IMO) but I guess we shouldn't get off topic about it.
@R_N: Plusle and Minun have a distinct theme differentiating them from the Pikachu line. Garchomp and Carvanha are strikingly similar though.
Why do the Sharpedo family & Garchomp have that star anyway. It's such a random detail.
Remoraid & Lumineon? I mean sure when you see Finneon it's obviously more closely related to Lumineon. But let us pretend Remoraid had no evo and Lumineon is revealed as a new Pokemon on its own.
- same primary color (they both clearly have the light blue, and you can see streaks of dark blue on Remoraid's back). Fine Remoraid doesn't have those tiny pink areas, but you've gotta give me that.
- fish
- I'm a bit unclear what exactly you're looking for on the third point, it seems pretty similar to the second point. All I can say is that if Finneon can evolve into Lumineon (and hence they are members of the same species) then just by looking at Remoraid, I don't see how it couldn't evolve into Lumineon either.
- fine they don't have the same body shape
- both water types
That's at least 3/5, 4/5 if you count the 3rd point.
- same primary color (they both clearly have the light blue, and you can see streaks of dark blue on Remoraid's back). Fine Remoraid doesn't have those tiny pink areas, but you've gotta give me that.
- fish
- I'm a bit unclear what exactly you're looking for on the third point, it seems pretty similar to the second point. All I can say is that if Finneon can evolve into Lumineon (and hence they are members of the same species) then just by looking at Remoraid, I don't see how it couldn't evolve into Lumineon either.
- fine they don't have the same body shape
- both water types
That's at least 3/5, 4/5 if you count the 3rd point.
You win with this one. I'll still be damned if Luvdisc-/->Mamanbo, but well done. I wouldn't count Plusle and Minun as they're clearly counterparts, and most of the pinkpuffs don't share a specific group of animals, much less a species, nor do they have a kind of "signature" like a heart-shape or yellow star patterns.
Come to think of it, Sharpedo->Chomp would've been awesome. I'd love it a lot more as a Water/Dark with Rough Skin.
I'm reluctant to count it as Lumineon has the whole "butterfly fish" motif. Also the color similarity is just a general "blue with other blue" where Luvdisc/Mamanbo are pretty damn close with the shade of pink, as well as Sharpedo/Garchomp with the dark blue with a yellow star pattern.
Third point is sort of indirectly implying that they should share the same overarching "theme."
I honestly don't find Lumineon that similar to Remoraid, who is clearly designed to resemble a revolver (with Lumineon, in my opinion, being quite a different shade of blue... but then Luvdisc and Mamambou are different shades of pink I guess) Luminion doesn't really have a clear basis to me (inb4 link or copypasta from Bulbapedia, they have quite a few origins that feel like they're grasping at straws), but it seems weird they would drop Remoraid's distinction as a sort of "water gun fish" when evolving to Lumineon.
You only say Remoraid is designed to resemble a revolver because you're thinking of it and Octillery together (who resembles a tank kind off). If Octillery never existed, I highly doubt you would make the weapon analogy.
Anyway it's certainly better than Sharpedo --> Garchomp -_-
Whoa, what? Remoraid is OBVIOUSLY shaped like a gun. Even in the Stadium of the games it looked like it "shot". It's not really a stretch of the imagination. In all fairness, I will admit Octillery only very vaguely resembles a tank, but Remoraid at least is clearly designed to resemble a handgun. And that's ignoring the Pokedex descriptions mostly because Horsea is known for doing the same thing...
Most of these are about as true as Ash being in coma,the thjng is there is a fine line between looking similar and having the same type and romanazation of the name.
Holy Crap, I never noticed the Remoraid gun thing, NOW I understand the REMoraid thing (Remingtons a kind of gun I think?). My whole life is now distorted due to this.
I don't understand how anyone couldn't have known Remoraid was designed like a gun... (it's actually from "remora" BTW... which is a type of fish that attached to other fish, which is why they are known for attaching to Mantine) I could understand not quite making the connection to Octillery since they are only loosely connected by their theme, but...
I'm pretty sure that is a reference to the Remora, a type of fish that swims under sharks to eat the scraps from its food. This is further supported by Remoraid/Mantine's relationship.
No reason it can't also be punning on Remingtons.
I mean just look at Hihidaruma. It's a pun bananza.
Sharpedo/Garchomp
-No, they do not have the same primary colors. Garchomp has much deeper colors compared to Sharpedo.
-Yes, they're both based on sharks and, arguably, torpedos.
-No, they can not be speculated as the same species, considering they're not based on any specific species of shark, only sharks in general.
-No, they do not share the same body shap. At all.
-No, they do not share the same typing.
That's 1/5 traits given by Chateau. Does not pass. By the way, they both don't have star patterns. Garchomp does, but Sharpedo has a cross pattern. Not the same thing.
Plusle/Minun
They're both the same to emphasize double battles. That's the only reason they were even created, besides being cute and the electric rodents for the generation.
Clefable/Wigglytuff (The only cute, pudgy, pink pokemon that are anywhere near similar)
-Yes, they have the same primary color
-No, they are not based on the same family of animal. Or probably any animal for that matter. Maybe a rabbit for Wigglytuff.
-No, they can not be considered to be based on the same species of animal.
-Maybe. They both share about the same body shape, but Clefable has wings and a tail not featured on Wigglytuff, while the latter features more notable ears.
-Yes, they share the same type.
That's either 2/5 or 3/5 depending on your opinion. Both of them fail.
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Butterfree/Beautifly
-No, they do not have the same primary colors
-Yes, they are both based on butterflies.
- No, they are not based on the same species of butterfly. Although I'm not going to bother and look up what species they both are exactly, it's easy to tell that they are not the same species
- Maybe. They do share the same body shape, but there are many key differences between the two. Butterfree has "fingers" and longer feet, while beautifly's are completely round. Beautifly's wings taper towards the bottom and feature a sort of hanging part. Butterfree's are pretty much round. Beautifly has a long tongue like protrusion, while butterfree has little teeth.
-Yes, they are both Bug/Flying type
That's 2/5 to 3/5. Doesn't make it either.
Tank was a bad choice of word...cannon would be more appropriate. Anyway IMO Octillery resembles a weapon much more than Remoraid does, and I would have thought of Remoraid as "just another generic fish" had I never seen Octillery. But if it's the other way around for you then I guess we'll just have to disagree.
I was looking for the possiblity that not only are they from the same animal family, but arguably from the same kind of that animal. Like you could say that Luvdisc and Mamanbou both look like a Discus fish.
See above. There's no way you could say that Butterfree and Beautifly are the same type of butterfly.
I didn't know...
And I do not see how one can honestly look at Venonat and Butterfree (or Venomoth and Metapod) and deny that they are related.
Man, for years, I've always thought it was a star.
Mind is blown. I can't believe I never noticed it was a cross
I blame the official art and their first set of sprites. The way the pattern is, enough of it is hidden and curved enough to make it seem like a star.
edit: well techinically it is a star shape, but not the traditional 5 point star
Mind is blown. I can't believe I never noticed it was a cross
I blame the official art and their first set of sprites. The way the pattern is, enough of it is hidden and curved enough to make it seem like a star.
edit: well techinically it is a star shape, but not the traditional 5 point star
However, it applies to every other aspect, which is 4/5. :P
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