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Not to mention that the supposed evo is at level 58, not 50. In the screen I saw, Pokabu had 126 HP, but 137 is still far too little for 2 stages and 8 levels higher...
I still don't get why people think it looks so different. >.>
Why does everyone have a problem with the evos? Yes, they look different to their prevos, so does Gyarados, who cares? I think the Water and Grass final evos look amazing. Fire is an ugly fusion of two extremely ugly things in themselves (Rhyperior and Magmortar, and, I'm afraid to say it, but from those looks it might be another Fire/Fighting), but then again I didn't care about Porkabu ever since they were revealed as I thought it was ugly and boring from the start.
I honestly could believe either fake or real (though my instincts still tell me fake). I just want to to be 100% confirmed one way :P Guess that'l happen on the 18th or so lol
Pokexperto webmaster apparently have the game, there`s a pic:
Yeah... while I like Pokabu's final evo (besides its typing implications, LOL... but on the other hand, besides the competition, it's good typing...), its name almost certainly says "Mijumaru".
The only reason I don't want these to be true is the Mijumaru final evo. It is just awful as its final evolution. Maybe I just got my hopes up after confirmation of the second form but I just don't feel what that is was the right direction for it to go. But I suppose I'll just have to deal with it if it is... I wonder why Serebii is so sure about it...
On the other hand, I, for one, really really really hope the three monkeys thing is true. That would probably basically confirmed the first Gym's multi-type theme and further cement the idea of a triple battle, which I think would be incredibly awesome.
Off topic, but does anyone know what happens when you try to fight Tate and Liza but you only have one Pokemon? I know regular Double Battle trainers like twins will usually just ignore you, but...
This is what's turning me off these evos. Out of all three, I only like Tsutarja's, and even then I don't think it's great. Pokabu's looks ridiculous to me, not to mention the Rhyperior/Magmortar similarity making it seem like it's a rehash of old ideas.
sigh...
As for Mijumaru's, I get the feeling that if it had been leaked in a battle screenshot, in a similar way to Ononokusu, it wouldn't have been hailed as Miju's final evo, apart from maybe the shell connection. I just don't see the same kind of progression from first to final that I see in the older starters.
My biggest problem with them all is the fact that, out of all starters from generations I-IV, Mudkip is the only one that changes from a quadruped to a biped (or vice versa). If this leak turns out to be real, Mijumaru changes to quadrupedal, Pokabu changes to bipedal and Tsutarja loses its legs altogether. I just don't think GF would do that with all 3 starters in a generation.
I don't see why people think the Pokabu's final evo is SOOOO much like Rhyperior that it could be considered a rip-off. As demonstrated by Magmortar, several Pokemon share the same general body shape as it and Rhyperior, and the only complete rip from Rhyperior are the hands, and it's unlikely it will have the holes in the palms like Rhyperior (at which point THEN you people can call Gamefreak on it), so the resemblance between minor details is just nitpicking at best.
God please let those be fake. If they're not we have a Grass/Dragon(which would be pretty epic tbh), a Water/Steel and a Fire/Fighting. Do the last two sound familiar?
I remember a source stating their typing too-- IIRC, they were pure Grass, pure Fire, and Water/Fighting... which are both A) disappointing as far as the first two are concerned and B) nonsensical since I can't imagine Mijumaru3 being a Fighting-type.
Unfortunately, I am a little inclined to believe Tsutarja3 will be pure Grass... because it doesn't look like it could be any other typing. If and when that is confirmed, it will be a sad day.
Cyndaquil (Bipedal), Quilava (Quadrupedal), Typhlosion (Bipedal).
But this is GF. As has been said to me, bucking/starting trends really doesn't seem to faze them, and quite a few evolutions look nothing like their families (Octillery, Tyranitar, Dragonite, Salamence and Sunflora off the top of my head). It really is 50/50, but the screenshot apparently saying 'Mijumaru' has swayed me towards fake. I hope.
It's bipedal in... everything. And that sort of logic doesn't really work since a lot of things that are bipedal can walk on all fours too, even people... it is just not comfortable, as I'm sure you know.
I don't see how people can quote starter's bipedal/quadrupedal-ness throughout their evolutions as proof against this though.
The water final evo looks like a retyped Dialga.
They have the same body type, similar color schemes (dark blue with lighter decorations), that long head, and the fan like tail thing.
When someone first posted it on here, I thought for sure they were just trolling with an armor digivolved form of Gomamon, but it turns out they weren't.
Despite that, it and Smuglord look good, but Pokabu's evo looks like crap. If it is real, it's going to remain my least favorite Pokemon of 5th gen and probably all time. I'm also 99% sure it will end up being Fire/Fighting which is even more of a reason to hate it.
Edit: The difference between a bipedal animal and quadrepedal animal is mainly in the shape of it's pelvis. Pikachu is considered a quadraped because it waddles when it walks on two legs (or atleast it used to) while Raichu is considered bipedal because it doesn't. They both can stand on two legs and run on four legs, but the shape of their pelvis determines what they are. The same thing can be said about Pokemon like Swampert and Tyflosion, and I think they're both quadrepedal.
OHHHH, I see, so its body plan in the Pokedex is quadrupedal. That is really strange, in everything it is bipedal. Hmmm. Oh well. You got me then.
Pokexperto webmaster apparently have the game, there`s a pic:
This screen can't be real.
Pokabu's final evolution has only 137 HP in this screen. That means that even with 0HP EVs and IVs (unrealistic) it can't have a higher HP base state than 77. That's contradictory to it's look, to Pokabu having a really high HP state in every screen for a starter (higher than the other two starters), even the TGC game card of Pokabu has more HP than the ones of Mijumaru and Tsutarija. Also, with 77 HP base the only starters with less base HP would be Infernape and Sceptile.
Also, is it just me or does the touch screen shows the same thing as the top screen and the yellow stuffed toy (Pikachu?) is just there to cover the touch screen.
Though the back spirite looks good (not that hard to fake it yourself), but it seems that someone just wants to advertise his own site / just wants to get some attention.
PS: I tried to find explanation for the weird colors of Tsutarija's and Mijumaru's evolutions and why Mijumaru evolves into this weird abomination. I'll post later as my defect graphic board keeps my computer crashing every five minutes.
Just because it stands on two legs, doesn't mean it's bipedal. Quilava is always shown standing on two legs, but can't really walk on anything but 4 legs. Tyflosion is also hunched over most of the time, as well as Swampert.
Edit: Did they put a plush Pikachu on that DS or is the person playing it wearing a fursuit?
Oh yeah there's a possiblity that the Tsutarja's final evo is Grass/Dragon. I also like the water evo, pretty awesome as well. But for the fire, it's terrible. It didn't have an originality.
Though in my opinion the final evos of the starters this generation looks way different from their first stage. Well if that leaked evos were proven true.
Though in my opinion the final evos of the starters this generation looks way different from their first stage. Well if that leaked evos were proven true.
Oh, please let them be fake >.< I wanted to choose Pokabu bit it's Evos look really ... meh. A small, little pig MUST evolve into a fiery, strong boar, damn you GF...Why can't it just be an epic fire boar? :<
Well, the other two lines are ok, imo. I don't understand why everyone hates Miju's last stage, it looks kinda cool imo. If this turns out to be real, I'm going to pick it and hate GF until they make a real fire boar '__'
Well, the other two lines are ok, imo. I don't understand why everyone hates Miju's last stage, it looks kinda cool imo. If this turns out to be real, I'm going to pick it and hate GF until they make a real fire boar '__'
Uhhhh... Typhlosion isn't hunched over or at least not the same way Swampert is and Quilava is almost always shown on four legs (I think the only exception is the HGSS art and the Crystal sprite?)... are you sure you meant Quilava or did you mean Cyndaquil or... what?
EDIT: It's also worth mentioning that Typhlosion is shown to walk upright when its out of its Pokeball in HGSS...
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