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Osostewie: You need sweet scent to abuse in dungeons/grass/water (not fishing). Starting frame for HG/SS in dungeon/grass/water vary with cartridge. It could be 1 or 2 methinks. So you have to find your starting frame to know when to stop before sweet scenting.


WOW! Ok so starting frame and how far sweet scenting advances the frame is the same thing or do i have to worry about something else? Also, NOOB QUESTION: does sweet scenting force you to battle something when your standing still because doesnt moving where wild pokemon are advance the frame? *confused face*
 
Osostewie: You need sweet scent to abuse in dungeons/grass/water (not fishing). Starting frame for HG/SS in dungeon/grass/water vary with cartridge. It could be 1 or 2 methinks. So you have to find your starting frame to know when to stop before sweet scenting.

Starting Frame? I think you mean how much frames Sweet-Scenting advances. :) Since Elm tells you what frames your on if you have roamers.

@Osostewie It forces a pokemon to show up. Most of Pokemons that are captured are from Sweet Scenting.
 
Thanks guys!! Now to get me a Shiny primeape now to choose the ball...

This is a little off topic, so im not going to use another post but i actually like the friend ball because in game its a little lighter and matches his nose (kinda.. which i never notice oddly looks like a pigs....)
 
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I prefer the nest ball. :)
 
Actual and Occidentary is the same thing. Occidentary just replaced actual in the newer version. I prefer Actual though.

Lets say you that you just battled a pokemon on frame 10 with an Actual frame of 23. You will be on frame 23 after the battle.

EDIT: @Osostewie You should Sweet-Scent(Walking in a place with pokemon advances the frame). Just make sure that its on the right Encounter Slots. Oh and you should check how many frames your game advances when Sweet-Scenting. You should be on a bike as a pokemon following you around messes with it.

Aw, darn, the actual frame of the first shiny is 233. D: Looks like it's one shiny at a time for me.
 
is there anyway to get an iv spread on rng reporter about A/30/31/30/A/A? something like that. maybe using the other things underneath the equal signs? sorry if i sound noobish
 
How do PIDs on ID Finder work? I'm a little confused on that part. Does that mean that if I take a random seed's PID, the ID Finder will find and ID/SID with that spread to make it shiny? I have an UT HeartGold Retail cart and it's just collecting dust lol.
 
How do PIDs on ID Finder work? I'm a little confused on that part. Does that mean that if I take a random seed's PID, the ID Finder will find and ID/SID with that spread to make it shiny? I have an UT HeartGold Retail cart and it's just collecting dust lol.

You dont take the seed's PID. You get the Spread that you want shiny's PID.
 
Ok, so I am about to restart my diamond game and I figured that I might as well to Id/Sid abuse. I want to have a shiny flawless bold spread for all the legends, but I also really want a flawless timid spread fo azelf REALLY badly. I want to know, is it possible to get both of these with ID/SID abuse? If so how?
 
Ok, so I am about to restart my diamond game and I figured that I might as well to Id/Sid abuse. I want to have a shiny flawless bold spread for all the legends, but I also really want a flawless timid spread fo azelf REALLY badly. I want to know, is it possible to get both of these with ID/SID abuse? If so how?

i'm pretty sure thats impossible, considering theres no flawless bold spread..
 
I mean quadflawless of course. I don't need 31 Atk in either spread.

i know how you can find out, i think i have an idea

edit: the first way is to look at the pid of both and see if theres a id/sid that makes them both shiny

or you could use pandora's box and look at the id/sid combos that make each spread shiny and see if it matches
 
I mean quadflawless of course. I don't need 31 Atk in either spread.


Check my thread and see if you like any/all the spreads and i think i could help you out but if you want to do you own research, just press enter when it asks for your id/sid but say yes to shiny spreads then type n for exact IV's then put what you want or could deal with becuase its not going to be perfect.
 
Check my thread and see if you like any/all the spreads and i think i could help you out but if you want to do you own research, just press enter when it asks for your id/sid but say yes to shiny spreads then type n for exact IV's then put what you want or could deal with becuase its not going to be perfect.

if your using wichu, then heres a spread for both: 31/17/31/31/31/31 for highest atk possible and 31/14/31/31/31/31 for lowest atk possible
 
Ok, so I am about to restart my diamond game and I figured that I might as well to Id/Sid abuse. I want to have a shiny flawless bold spread for all the legends, but I also really want a flawless timid spread fo azelf REALLY badly. I want to know, is it possible to get both of these with ID/SID abuse? If so how?

You'll want to take a look at Omega Donut's work, here: http://www.eggmove.com/rngreporter/HighIVShinySpreadGroups.zip
he's had a look for IDs that give decent IVs for several different Natures, for the purposes of ID/SID abuse. I'm not sure if any of them are near flawless bold and timid; take a look and see...
 
if you want Bold and Timid, then these spreads work

Code:
PID		Nature	Ability	IVs
e9b838a5	ADAMANT	1	31\30\31\15\31\31
69b8b8a5	CAREFUL	1	31\30\31\15\31\31
6c96bd8f	BOLD	1	31\19\31\30\30\31 (HP Ground 70)
ec963d8f	TIMID	1	31\19\31\30\30\31 (HP Ground 70)
 
AF1DB8B6 timid 31/17/31/31/31/31
9F12A38C bold 31/17/31/31/31/31

1010111100011|101
1011100010110|110
id
sid

id
sid
1001111100010|010
1010001110001|100

heres what you really want, an id and sid that makes the number of 1's in each column even, starting from the left and ending at the line. (the id and sid have to be in binary though)
 
Regarding Pokewalker RNGing, I read from the Research thread that returning from stroll (as opposed to receive gift) advances the IRNG an additional 40 frames (on top of the 192 for connection). Has that been confirmed or rejected?

EDIT: OK, nobody replied. I just tested this, and yes, it did seem to match up. I was just doing the Jolly 31/31/30/x/29/31 spread, which had nature 13 (Jolly) on IRNG frame 194 (192 + 2 {i.e. one connection, 2 pokemon transfers}). Instead of receiving gift this time though, I did return from stroll, which means my two pokemon should have natures of frame 233 and 234, which correspond to 6 (Docile) and 9 (Lax). After transferring back via return from stroll, sure enough, my two caught pokemon were Docile and Lax (with the lax one having 31/31/30/x/29/31), so yay, a potentially more convenient way to get the natures I want controlling two variables instead of one.

EDIT: Seed 16170050
 
Holy cow! Thanks for all the help guys! Free shiny legends for all! Jk, but I might do a giveaway...

EDIT: Soo what do I do with the the codes?
 
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