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This new guy is also bipedal and unlike Croagunk has arms that are making fists and he making a serious face like most fighters do before a fight. I have strong doubts about whether it is a pokemon at all, but it's typing doesn't really seem to strange to me considering previous pokemon having IMO unsuitable types.

Fighting-types are generally based on specific styles of fighting, though. Not to mention being bipedal + fists doesn't make you a Fighting-type, and it's not like you can even tell those are fists in the first place. Dragonite, Nidoking, and even Mewtwo look like they have more of a fist than this guy, yet they are clearly not Fighting-type.
 
>About the Dark/Dragon pseudolegendary
This is the V gen Dragonite/Garchomp/etc.
Is a three headed hydra, with black and blue tones. Starts with 1 head and when evolves get 2 heads, the final form have 3.

Since we have Godzilla in Pokemon form (Tyranitar), it's only logical that we get King Ghidorah as well...
 
im calling bullshit on everything that isn't confirmed (including the starters)

so far, no one has any proof for anything. Who knows if this pokexperto guy is telling the truth or not? He could be just be spreading false information. People have done that in the past. The dark fighting seems like great typing, but i don't think its that thing, especially because before, pokexperto said that there would be no kangaroo pokemon (and that thing looks like a kangaroo to me). Isn't that one spider pokemon electric bug? Why do we have another spider pokemon with steel bug typing? There are two bug steel pokemon according to the pokexperto, but he lists three: the event pokemon, the bug in knight armor, and the spider. Also, if the three headed hydra thing is true, then wtf is Kibago? Is that just some random dragon type? It looks to me like the psuedo legendary, but it doesn't look like it's going to sprout another two heads. Also, what is that pokemon that was shown in the double battle with the mole, the sarcofigus, and the electric spider? Many things seem very un-gamefreak as well. A green spike ball with tentacles thats grass and steel? A clown with cinder blocks on its hands? That grass bug thing evolves into that weird bug thing? What is the weird plant that was seen at the daycare, and what are those cloud things? Also, how can there be no evolutions of pokemon from former generations? There is no way that Luvdisc and Mananbou are unrelated. There also seem to be a lot of things that don't add up with the pokexperto's posts. Where are Zorua and Zoruark's pokedex numbers? What about Victini? If Zorua and victini are event pokemon, and there are only three, then how about the bug steel thing, the water fighting thing, and the normal psychic thing?
For now, I'm not going to believe anything. i can wait a week to hear the truth when the game comes out.
 
Fighting-types are generally based on specific styles of fighting, though. Not to mention being bipedal + fists doesn't make you a Fighting-type, and it's not like you can even tell those are fists in the first place. Dragonite, Nidoking, and even Mewtwo look like they have more of a fist than this guy, yet they are clearly not Fighting-type.
Well, Dragonite and Nidoking both have claws where there fingers would be and I could definately think of Mewtwo as fighter if he wanted to be, but with psychic powers as overwhelming as his he wouldn't even consider using his fighting skills. Perhaps that's why they havn't made a fighting type legendary, because the power you get from fighting powers just doesn't feel like it could compare with the other types of attacks something like a psychic or dragon type could make.
 
Well, Dragonite and Nidoking both have claws where there fingers would be and I could definately think of Mewtwo as fighter if he wanted to be, but with psychic powers as overwhelming as his he wouldn't even consider using his fighting skills. Perhaps that's why they havn't made a fighting type legendary, because the power you get from fighting powers just doesn't feel like it could compare with the other types of attacks something like a psychic or dragon type could make.

But you just said Vigoroth looks like a Fighting-type, and he has claws... whatever. This is pointless arguing over a shitty fanart.
 
Wow, guys... before I was totally neutral on the issue of whether or not the Dex info Pokexperto was real.

But... but...

That pants lizard. It has to be real. I want it to be real. It needs to be real. It's simply just the best.
 
I think memorizing all the pokemon in the game is a simple task if you really care about it. Buy the posters and such if you think you are having trouble remembering them all.

I think the most important thing to be talking about right now is whether those changes to IVs and EVs are confirmed or not. That will be the physical/special split of this generation if it is true. Also, there was the mention of changing base stats, which would be armageddon. Is Shoddy 2 ready for that kind of change to the system (8 IV stats instead of 6)?
 
But you just said Vigoroth looks like a Fighting-type, and he has claws... whatever. This is pointless arguing over a shitty fanart.
When I think of a fighting type, I think of a pokemon that will use punching, kicking and swinging body parts at you furiously as it's main means of attacking. But now that I think about it, a better definition would be something that uses martial arts style attacks to beat you. I think this yellow guy would definately fit that description more than anything else, although he looks pretty bad at it. As for dark type, what the hell is dark type? It seems to be as simple as relating to the night, in which case almost anything could be a dark type. I agree that this thing is probably not a pokemon, but I wouldn't rule out any typing other than obvious ones like Dragon. Pokemon just don't always look like their types and this one doesn't seem crazier than others I can think of. How about Victini? What could possibly make it look like a fire type? Does having the color orange on you automatically make you possibly a fire type?
 
I actually heard that the changing IVs rumor might be reducing the IVs from 31-8. Quite frankly, neither one makes sense to me. 0-8 seems way to easy to manipulate, and 31-8 would mess up already-IV'ed pokemon. But what would the other two IV's determine? Has it been mentioned anywhere?
 
Those Gigaiasu prevos look fake. The rock on the first two hasn't been textured. I thought Gigaiasu would be a Nosepass split-evo.
 
Thanks Random Rider anyway Zoroark is going to be Uber if Illusion is a good ability.

Possibly, but considering the illusion breaks after one hit, the fact your opponent will know it's an illusion if you've used your 2nd pokemon already and the fact it's BST is nothing really special, I kind of doubt it. I forgot to mention the fact your opponent will know it's an illusion if you use a move that the pokemon doesn't normally know.
 
I actually heard that the changing IVs rumor might be reducing the IVs from 31-8. Quite frankly, neither one makes sense to me. 0-8 seems way to easy to manipulate, and 31-8 would mess up already-IV'ed pokemon. But what would the other two IV's determine? Has it been mentioned anywhere?

From Pokejungle:

IV Values now have 8 kinds instead of 6
There will be some kind of modification for the pokemon coming over from previous generations to fix their stats
4 EVs per battle
Gaining Effort values has also changed
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This is the original rumor, the one you heard was probably just a twisted version of this. What this is saying is that there a now 6 stats, two more will be added. Still just a rumor though.
 
So, in the end, Mamanbou is not a Luvdisc evo...


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Well, to hell with Luvdisc, Mamanbou learns Wish and seems to have high Sp. Defense, Luvdisc can cry in a corner for how long it wants to.


Alien invader legendary? Could be cool, could be ugly...

Maybe it's Deoxys' natural predator.

Deoxys having a natural predator? THE HORROR

dear gamefreak,

stop making so many legendaries. ITS NOT LEGENDARY IF THERE ARE 50 MORE ALSO CALLED LEGENDARY.

thank you.

Yeah sure, we have so few legendaries in the real world.



wait
 
From Pokejungle:

IV Values now have 8 kinds instead of 6
There will be some kind of modification for the pokemon coming over from previous generations to fix their stats
4 EVs per battle
Gaining Effort values has also changed
___

This is the original rumor, the one you heard was probably just a twisted version of this. What this is saying is that there a now 6 stats, two more will be added. Still just a rumor though.
The original Japanese text states there are eight stages or levels of IVs or whatever you want to call it. Very ambiguous.
 
I actually find it fairly hard not to believe this stuff. The stuff Melkor said matches up well with the translated interview (assuming the translator isn't just fucking with everyone), which is directly from the designers. Also, unless he was planning on closing his site soon anyway, he's going to lose a lot of traffic if he's wrong (though I'm sure the spike he's probably got at the moment could cancel it out a bit).

The main reason why I'm still a little skeptical, though, is just because of how stupid and unrealistic some of them seem. The big one in my mind is the starters final evolution's typing, Grass, Water, and Fire/Fighting seems like it was just designed with the intent of pissing everyone off. Beyond that, there's a three stage moustached shih tzu apparently, along with a line starting with a guy with a wooden plank that grows a clown nose. Kurumiru has the same head post-cocoon. Basurao has two forms but doesn't evolve. Hihidaruma apparently can turn half psychic. Also, the Normal/Psychic sounds just weird (she has a hat?). Lastly, #641, 642, and 645 are apparently a trio, with Zekrom and Reshiram at 643 and 644, and the dragon/ice at 646, which just doesn't make any sense to me at all.

Right now, I'm hoping that if they're real, he just saw the sprites, so he can't make out most of the details, and is just guessing on the types. Which wouldn't surprise me too much.
 
If they would make IVs so you didn't have to RNG them to get them perfect, I'd buy two games just to show my appreciation to gamefreak. It's ridiculous that under normal circumstances you have about a 1 in a million chance of getting a perfect pokemon before you even start leveling it up.
 
Yeah, IVs really are only a "flavor" thing to make every Pokemon unique from others of the same Level/Nature/Species, but in competitive battles, it's a major inconvenience.
 
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