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!plusle! sent out Bidoof!

Start of turn 23
Seriin's Daycare called Aipom back!
Seriin's Daycare sent out Gligar!

Bidoof used Protect!
But it failed!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!

Start of turn 24
Bidoof used Substitute!
Bidoof made a substitute!

The foe's Gligar used Swords Dance!
The foe's Gligar's Attack sharply rose!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!

Start of turn 25
Bidoof used Return!
The attack of Bidoof missed!

The foe's Gligar used Swords Dance!
The foe's Gligar's Attack sharply rose!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!

Start of turn 26
Bidoof used Toxic!
The attack of Bidoof missed!

The foe's Gligar used Baton Pass!
Seriin's Daycare called Gligar back!
Seriin's Daycare sent out Zuruggu!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Evasion!

Start of turn 27
Bidoof used Protect!
Bidoof protected itself!

The foe's Zuruggu used Drain Punch!
Bidoof protected itself!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
The foe's Zuruggu's Shed Skin heals its status!

Start of turn 28
Bidoof used Return!
The foe's Zuruggu lost 29% of its health!

The foe's Zuruggu used Drain Punch!
It's super effective!
Bidoof's substitute faded!
Bidoof had its energy drained!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!

Start of turn 29
Bidoof used Protect!
Bidoof protected itself!

The foe's Zuruggu used Dragon Dance!
The foe's Zuruggu's Attack rose!
The foe's Zuruggu's Speed rose!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.!

Start of turn 30
Bidoof used Return!
The foe's Zuruggu lost 29% of its health!

The foe's Zuruggu used Drain Punch!
The attack of the foe's Zuruggu missed!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!

Start of turn 31
Bidoof used Protect!
Bidoof protected itself!

The foe's Zuruggu used Drain Punch!
The attack of the foe's Zuruggu missed!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.!

Start of turn 32
Bidoof used Return!
The foe's Zuruggu lost 54% of its health!
The foe's Zuruggu fainted!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Seriin's Daycare sent out Aipom!

Start of turn 33
Bidoof used Protect!
Bidoof protected itself!

The foe's Aipom used Fake Out!
The attack of the foe's Aipom missed!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Def.!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!

Start of turn 34
Bidoof used Substitute!
Bidoof made a substitute!

The foe's Aipom used Fire Punch!
Bidoof's substitute took the damage!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Evasion!

Start of turn 35
Bidoof used Protect!
Bidoof protected itself!

The foe's Aipom used Fire Punch!
Bidoof protected itself!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!

Start of turn 36
Bidoof used Return!
The foe's Aipom lost 82% of its health!

The foe's Aipom used Fire Punch!
Bidoof's substitute took the damage!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!

Start of turn 37
Bidoof used Return!
The attack of Bidoof missed!

The foe's Aipom used Fire Punch!
Bidoof's substitute faded!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!

Start of turn 38
Bidoof used Protect!
Bidoof protected itself!

The foe's Aipom used Fire Punch!
Bidoof protected itself!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!

Start of turn 39
Bidoof used Return!
The attack of Bidoof missed!

The foe's Aipom used Fire Punch!
Bidoof lost 3 HP! (12% of its health)

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!

Start of turn 40
Bidoof used Return!
The foe's Aipom lost 17% of its health!
The foe's Aipom fainted!

Bidoof's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Bidoof's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
Seriin's Daycare sent out Gligar!

Start of turn 41
Bidoof used Return!
The attack of Bidoof missed!

The foe's Gligar used Earthquake!
A critical hit!
Bidoof lost 10 HP! (40% of its health)
Bidoof fainted!

Seriin's Daycare won the battle!
Seriin's Daycare: gg
!plusle!: gg


That was inconsistent in lc. =( miss at the end
 
Actually it wasn't just the drops. It was a crit. And I still fail to see how a (somewhat poorly played) bidoof killing two pokes before going down to crit proves that it isn't broken. Why doesn't it have leftovers? It's a superior option to even evo stone becuase it lets you set up more subs and stall for more boosts. And yes I realize that log was little cup.
 
Arc Tech said:
Actually it wasn't just the drops. It was a crit. And I still fail to see how a (somewhat poorly played) bidoof killing two pokes before going down to crit proves that it isn't broken. Why doesn't it have leftovers? It's a superior option to even evo stone becuase it lets you set up more subs and stall for more boosts. And yes I realize that log was little cup.
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I meant up to the crit, I made a mistake on my team and I was showing how inconsistent is usable in LC.
 
Another awesome battle showing off inconsistent abuse:

Battle between Gah and Jargon started!

Tier: Dream World
Rule: Unrated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Challenge Cup

Jargon sent out Shiftry!
Gah sent out Smeargle!

Start of turn 1
Smeargle used Protect!
Smeargle protected itself!

The foe's Shiftry used Agility!
The foe's Shiftry's Speed sharply rose!

Smeargle's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion!
Smeargle's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.!

Start of turn 2
The foe's Shiftry used Night Burst!
Smeargle lost 244 HP! (77% of its health)
Smeargle's Accuracy fell!

Smeargle used Spore!
The attack of Smeargle missed!

Smeargle's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Smeargle's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Smeargle restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 3
Smeargle used Protect!
Smeargle protected itself!

The foe's Shiftry used Night Burst!
Smeargle protected itself!

Smeargle's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Smeargle's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
Smeargle restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 4
The foe's Shiftry used Night Burst!
The attack of the foe's Shiftry missed!

Smeargle used Spore!
The attack of Smeargle missed!

Smeargle's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Smeargle's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Def.!
Smeargle restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 5
The foe's Shiftry used Flamethrower!
The attack of the foe's Shiftry missed!

Smeargle used Spore!
The foe's Shiftry fell asleep!

Smeargle's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Smeargle's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
Smeargle restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 6
The foe's Shiftry is fast asleep!

Smeargle used Substitute!
Smeargle made a substitute!

Smeargle's Inconsistent sharply raises its Evasion!
Smeargle's Inconsistent lowers its Defense!
Smeargle restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 7
Smeargle used Protect!
Smeargle protected itself!

The foe's Shiftry is fast asleep!

Smeargle's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Smeargle's Inconsistent lowers its Evasion!
Smeargle restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 8
The foe's Shiftry woke up!
The foe's Shiftry used Flamethrower!
The attack of the foe's Shiftry missed!

Smeargle used Spore!
The foe's Shiftry fell asleep!

Smeargle's Inconsistent sharply raises its Accuracy!
Smeargle's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Smeargle restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 9
Smeargle used Protect!
Smeargle protected itself!

The foe's Shiftry is fast asleep!

Smeargle's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Smeargle's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
Smeargle restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 10
The foe's Shiftry is fast asleep!

Smeargle used Spore!
The foe's Shiftry is already asleep.

Smeargle's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Smeargle's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Smeargle restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Jargon: This is interesting.

Start of turn 11
Smeargle used Protect!
Smeargle protected itself!

The foe's Shiftry is fast asleep!

Smeargle's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Smeargle's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Smeargle restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Gah: lol

Start of turn 12
The foe's Shiftry woke up!
The foe's Shiftry used Night Burst!
The attack of the foe's Shiftry missed!

Smeargle used Spore!
The attack of Smeargle missed!

Smeargle's Inconsistent sharply raises its Speed!
Smeargle's Inconsistent lowers its Attack!
Smeargle restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 13
Smeargle used Protect!
Smeargle protected itself!

The foe's Shiftry used Night Burst!
The attack of the foe's Shiftry missed!

Smeargle's Inconsistent sharply raises its Defense!
Smeargle's Inconsistent lowers its Sp. Att.!
Smeargle restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 14
Smeargle used Spore!
The attack of Smeargle missed!

The foe's Shiftry used Flamethrower!
Smeargle's substitute faded!

Smeargle's Inconsistent sharply raises its Attack!
Smeargle's Inconsistent lowers its Accuracy!
Smeargle restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 15
Smeargle used Protect!
Smeargle protected itself!

The foe's Shiftry used Flamethrower!
The attack of the foe's Shiftry missed!

Smeargle's Inconsistent sharply raises its Sp. Att.!
Smeargle's Inconsistent lowers its Speed!
Smeargle restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 16
Smeargle used Baton Pass!
Gah called Smeargle back!
Gah sent out Garchomp!

The foe's Shiftry used Flamethrower!
It's not very effective...
Garchomp lost 98 HP! (27% of its health)
Garchomp was burned!
Garchomp ate its Lum Berry!
Garchomp's status cleared!

Start of turn 17
Garchomp used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Shiftry lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Zoroaaku fainted!

Jargon sent out Spiritomb!

The foe's Spiritomb is exerting its Pressure!

Start of turn 18
Garchomp used Earthquake!
The foe's Spiritomb avoided the attack!

The foe's Spiritomb used Icy Wind!
Garchomp avoided the attack!

Start of turn 19
Garchomp used Earthquake!
The foe's Spiritomb lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Spiritomb fainted!

Jargon sent out Shiftry!

Start of turn 20
Garchomp used Dragon Claw!
The attack of Garchomp missed!

The foe's Shiftry used Trickery!
The attack of the foe's Shiftry missed!

Start of turn 21
Garchomp used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Shiftry lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Shiftry fainted!

Jargon sent out Honchkrow!

Start of turn 22
The foe's Honchkrow used Sucker Punch!
The attack of the foe's Honchkrow missed!

Garchomp used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Honchkrow lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Honchkrow fainted!

Jargon sent out Zuruzukin!

Start of turn 23
Garchomp used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Zuruzukin lost 89% of its health!
The foe's Zuruzukin ate its Salac Berry!
The Salac Berry raised the foe's Zuruzukin's Speed!

The foe's Zuruzukin used Ice Punch!
It's super effective!
Garchomp lost 104 HP! (29% of its health)

Start of turn 24
Garchomp used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Zuruzukin lost 10% of its health!
The foe's Zuruzukin fainted!

Jargon sent out Sharpedo!

Gah: personally I feel Inconsistent should be banned :P

Start of turn 25
The foe's Sharpedo used Protect!
The foe's Sharpedo protected itself!

Garchomp used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Sharpedo protected itself!

The foe's Sharpedo's Speed Boost increases its speed!
The foe's Sharpedo's Speed rose!

Start of turn 26
Garchomp used Dragon Claw!
The foe's Sharpedo lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Sharpedo fainted!

Gah won the battle!
Gah: Good Game.
Jargon: GG

I was at +2 Atk, +4 Def, +6 Spd, and +3 Evasion (I don't remember the others, but those were the important ones).
 
Can someone post a log of them beating a good player using a good team with an Inconsistent mon, rather than just trashing random noobs with Typhlosion / Manectric / Shiftry?
 
The thing is, who needs a good team when you've got one inconsistent 'mon and a good poke to baton pass to (assuming you're using smeargle).
 
o i c. In all seriousness though, I don't think that Inconsistent is good enough to be banned. Don't get me wrong, it's good, but not that good.

I've also found that Nasty Plot Lucario does a decent job at breaking Inconsistent users with Aura Sphere+Vacuum Wave.

Based off of the last few pages Inconsistent has these counters:
-Mischievous Heart Taunt
-Priority
-Never missing moves
-Haze, Roar
-Unaware
-Other boost negating moves.
 
Gah777 said:
o i c. In all seriousness though, I don't think that Inconsistent is good enough to be banned. Don't get me wrong, it's good, but not that good.

I've also found that Nasty Plot Lucario does a decent job at breaking Inconsistent users with Aura Sphere+Vacuum Wave.

Based off of the last few pages Inconsistent has these counters:
-Mischievous Heart Taunt
-Priority
-Never missing moves
-Haze, Roar
-Unaware
-Other boost negating moves.
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Bolded one's don't work. Taunt doesn't stop it from getting it's boosts (in switching to the taunter it has probably gotten a sub and 2 turns to boost), and all non-smeargle inconsistent abusers have attacking moves.

I have no idea why you think priority can do anything to inconsistent abusers.

Unaware gets toxic stalled. Even aromatherapy clefable- toxic has 16 pp, aroma 8.

Stat downs get blocked by substitute.

Underlined counters are unreliable, and can be called checks at best. roar and whirlwind can miss, and only lucario's aura sphere and technician boosted moves (Roserade magical leaf, Scyther aerial ace) are strong enough to do anything. Until octillery gets +6 def/sp def from sub-protect stalling, in which case only np luke can beat it- but it will probably get killed by boosted attacks.

The fact of the matter is that to switch to a check you let it get a sub up, which greatly reduces the effect of almost any check (read: any but breloom).
 
Gah777 said:
o i c. In all seriousness though, I don't think that Inconsistent is good enough to be banned. Don't get me wrong, it's good, but not that good.

I've also found that Nasty Plot Lucario does a decent job at breaking Inconsistent users with Aura Sphere+Vacuum Wave.

Based off of the last few pages Inconsistent has these counters:
-Mischievous Heart Taunt
-Priority
-Never missing moves
-Haze, Roar
-Unaware
-Other boost negating moves.
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w00t quagsire!

Quagsire@leftovers/lum berry
Unaware
-yawn
-recover
-EQ
-encore/waterfall/safeguard
 
Arc Tech said:
Bolded one's don't work. Taunt doesn't stop it from getting it's boosts (in switching to the taunter it has probably gotten a sub and 2 turns to boost), and all non-smeargle inconsistent abusers have attacking moves.

Unaware gets toxic stalled. Even aromatherapy clefable- toxic has 16 pp, aroma 8.

Stat downs get blocked by substitute.
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Although Mischevous Heart does not prevent it from getting boosts it /does/ prevent them from using the stalling methods that accumulate the boosts without fear of being killed in the process (as in, the Inconsistent Pokemon do that so they don't have to fear etc.).

Also, with Unaware Pokemon ignoring boosts, how much damage are Inconsistent Pokemon that invested solely in defenses going to do offensively? All Unaware Pokemon can run offensive sets that will let them break Substitutes (alternatively, they can run Substitute sets themselves to avoid getting stalled out by Toxic). Kokoromori also learns Taunt, so he can avoid the Toxic Stalling and rend two to three moves on the Inconsistent Pokemon useless.

The counters/checks can be considered shaky, but that doesn't stop them from having the possibility of actually being effective.
 
Khan!!! said:
w00t quagsire!

Quagsire@leftovers/lum berry
Unaware
-yawn
-recover
-EQ
-encore/waterfall/safeguard
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Tozic kills your chances of winning, and investing enough EVs to outrun the Inconsistent users means Quagsire loses his ability to take attacks easily. Oh, and Octillery uses Energy Ball and kills Quagsire.
 
No Unaware pokemon are immune to Toxic Spikes though so unless you want to run a poison pokemon and an Unaware pokemon you'll still get toxic stalled.
 
I suppose that works...
Max sp atk octillery surf vs max/max+ Quagsire: 35% - 41.1%
3hko. nevermind.
Max sp atk octillery surf vs max/max+ clefable: 28.9% - 34.3%
3hko with high enough damage rolls and sandstorm. If no sandstorm, the chance of getting a crit in 16 attacks is 64.4%. Max sp def clefable also doesn't handle physical threats very well, even with unaware.
 
I run Evolution Stone Bidoof to take out enemy Inconsistent users. But only because it's on my mono-Bidoof team (i.e. not serious). It does do a pretty good job, although it's really specialised.

Bidoof @ Evolution Stone
Trait: Unaware
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SDef
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Return
- Rest
- Amnesia
- Curse

Send it in, Amnesia up, and Rest when necessary (also beats Toxic). Curse to +6, and KO (Unaware ignores all their evasiveness boosts). If the opponent has passed Ingrain to Octillery, they're screwed; otherwise, they'll be forced out and lose their boosts. Bidoof to OU!

Disclaimer: not to be used on any serious team.
 
Arc Tech said:
Stat downs get blocked by substitute.
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Maybe the ones you're looking at.
Haze goes through Substitute. Clear Smog's stat drop effect goes through Substitute. The evasion-killer trio goes through substitute (but they're far inferior to Haze and Clear Smog in this situation)

Haze in particular has hella PP. They can Protect and Sub until the cows come home and you'll still be killing their boosts.
 
Enlong said:
Maybe the ones you're looking at.
Haze goes through Substitute. Clear Smog's stat drop effect goes through Substitute. The evasion-killer trio goes through substitute (but they're far inferior to Haze and Clear Smog in this situation)

Haze in particular has hella PP. They can Protect and Sub until the cows come home and you'll still be killing their boosts.
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You haze, they sub, they lose boosts, but then they get boosts as the turn ends.
They can always start off in a favourable position, just removing their boost doesn't mean anything.

Inconsistent isn't just about the defensive boost evasion gives, but the fact that everything can be boosted.

Inconsistent boosts come in after everything so regardless of if you haze they will be +2 in SOMETHING.
 
A while back I ran into Reyscarface on the ladder, and he was using a team based around this ability. It got the point where I needed to sweep his ENTIRE team with Terakion, or lose the match. I got an SD, only to be out-sped by his Electric/Flying genie. I predicted the Volt Change, and got a Rock Polish. I thought the match was over, right then and there. Baring a Stone Edge miss, I was in the clear. Then his Octillery comes in and Protects while I try to Close Combat it. It gets +2 Evasion and +2 Special Attack. Thank God, I managed to land the next hit, but if I hadn't, the game would've been over.

As scary as that was, I don't think the ability needs to be banned. It's completely random, and might end up decreasing your Evasion. Rey's team also had Smeargle and some others, and although Smeargle SOMEHOW PROTECTED SEVEN TIMES IN A ROW AND STALLED OUT MY CLOSE COMBAT PP, it never got an evasion boost, and I swept his team. It's completely random, and an ineffective strategy. I honestly feel like it's a gimmick, and should never be relied on.
 
ensoriki said:
You haze, they sub, they lose boosts, but then they get boosts as the turn ends.
They can always start off in a favourable position, just removing their boost doesn't mean anything.

Inconsistent isn't just about the defensive boost evasion gives, but the fact that everything can be boosted.

Inconsistent boosts come in after everything so regardless of if you haze they will be +2 in SOMETHING.
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Possibly something sucky. Assuming they always get a favorable result is as irresponsible as thinking that they always get an unavorable one. If they get an unfavorable boost, you attack. If they get a favorable boost, you Haze.

But I would probably use Clear Smog instead, because it attacks their Sub while clearing the boost.
 
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