Becuase hes the one who posted it on the forums and I didn't want to take credit for it.
Yeah, is it possible to copy/paste shoddy's code into PO for the rating system or something?
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Becuase hes the one who posted it on the forums and I didn't want to take credit for it.
Yeah, is it possible to copy/paste shoddy's code into PO for the rating system or something?
Is Gen 5 really that different for Manaphy? Exactly how many checks and counters were introduced in fifth gen that make things different? Wasn't manaphy tested in Gen 4 and was still found to be uber anyway? Gen 4 didn't have drizzle in standard either...
Not to mention tail glow was only +2...
But then again theres a bunch of new 101+ pokes aka Terakion, Virizion, Voltolos, etc, who can KO or do a lot of damage to manaphy. So without rain... who knows? Apparently I'm no good with a rain team though. But then again, most of what I go up against is either a rain or sand team... I wonder what the usage stats of ttar and politoed will be. Any chance of getting them for just these two weeks before voting?
Well, manaphy got nattorei as a counter.
But tail glow is more powerful, and after shandera revenges it (Even in rain, overheat still does that), i don't really see many counters. The pokemon above can't really 1hko manaphy, so it can kill whichever one of them is being used, then come in later and rest.
But tail glow is more powerful, and after shandera revenges it (Even in rain, overheat still does that), i don't really see many counters. The pokemon above can't really 1hko manaphy, so it can kill whichever one of them is being used, then come in later and rest.
The rating system is separate from the simulator if I understand it correctly, similar to Shoddy. There should be a way to implement whatever rating system we want, and if it's a lot better than the current rating system, then coyo might implement it himself on the main PO server.
Hmm Dory is still here. Manaphy isn't as threatening, but it still is. +3 in one turn is scary. Also since it doesn't run Rest, it loses a reliable recovering (unless you run Sleep Talk).
Base 100 all around is amazing. It can run HP Fire or Electric to take care of most of it's
checks.
Base 100 all around is amazing. It can run HP Fire or Electric to take care of most of it's
checks.
Manaphy by itself is a pain in the ass, and with rain it's an even bigger one. I personally believe in just getting rid of manaphy, because even without rain 100/100/100 defenses, lack of a priority weakness, and Tail Glow make it quite honestly a bitch of an itch for any team if used correctly compared to his fairy brethren. Hell even without Drizzle you have Kingdra and a few others setting up rain too.
I can see why Drizzletoed could get banned, but like banning garchomp last gen instead of ttar or hippo (I doubt that there really is a comparison when it comes to weather related abilities, but it's my best shot), it's sometimes better to get rid of the powerhouse rather than the weather summoner, right? Or am too far off target?
I can see why Drizzletoed could get banned, but like banning garchomp last gen instead of ttar or hippo (I doubt that there really is a comparison when it comes to weather related abilities, but it's my best shot), it's sometimes better to get rid of the powerhouse rather than the weather summoner, right? Or am too far off target?
Banning all the abusers instead of banning one Pokemon would make it difficult...
That would mean if you kept Drizzletoed you would ban, Kingdra, Ludicolo, Kapotops... ect.
Do not blame one it for hating the mole. He's one of the three beasts in the sand, the others being Landlos and Garchomp, and a pain to take down, though to me he doesn't seem as threatening as the others as he's extremely weak to priority, which is growing popular thanks to roopushin and breloom. Plus, Terrakion with a baloon can come in and Rock Polish, becoming faster and hitting hard with STAB, though that works only if Doryuzu doesn't make him flinch with Rock Slide or carry Brick Break. How popular is Brick Break on the mole?
That's a good point. Funny thing is I used to remember people wanting a drizzle user in OU and now that they got it, it's actually biting them in the ass. Irony is cruel. Rain is a powerful aspect of the metagame now, rivaling Sandstorm's prominence in Gen IV and even surpassing it in Gen V. What this probably means is that if people even want to keep Drizzle in the OU, people are going to have to work on ways to check it other than using just weather summoners. Again, probably off target.
I was actually wondering that too. O_o I thought it was common fare for players to start setting their limits once they achieve a decent score. But so many people are flabbergasted to see some of their matches with deviations of +1 -30 and I'm like -_-.
Of course walls don't function by themselves. They're walls. And Deo-D trying to be offensive is lol. He can easily stall almost the entire metagame out with no problems with a Cosmic Power set. Magic Coat reflects almost everything you try to do to him. Breaking him is difficult as fuck.
For right now, I'm waiting until the most obvious suspects get banned before I bring out the big guns and go full stall. Mew can stay too, I like him in OU. :P
Thanks :) And, thanks to SJCrew for figuring it out!
lol I've seen people mention reducing the rating diff long before SJCrew mentioned it on the forums. It's not exactly rocket science. I'm sorry if I'm coming off as rude, but this is surprising me quite a bit.
I guess we'll see about Deoxys-D. Have people tried it in this metagame? Is it viable in this metagame?
I guess we'll see about Deoxys-D. Have people tried it in this metagame? Is it viable in this metagame?
Porygon2 has higher defenses, has more HP, also has Magic Coat, Toxic, and Recover, has Trace, and has better offenses.
The only things it doesn't have that Deoxys-D does is Spikes and Taunt.
It may be viable, but Porygon2 outclasses it.
The only things it doesn't have that Deoxys-D does is Spikes and Taunt.
It may be viable, but Porygon2 outclasses it.
Chople Berry lets him beat Roobushin and Breloom easily, OHKOing with a +2 EQ while tanking the Mach Punch. The last I recall, Brick Break was pretty popular on Dory, as it takes out some of the more annoying counters like the aforementioned Balloon Terakion and Balloon Magnezone with Magnet Rise.
Taunt, along with Cosmic Power, is the reason why Deoxys-D has a niche over Porygon2.
Well that answers my question. I usually saw X-Scissor, but I can see Brick Break being popular. So even Breloom is OHKOed from Doryuzu's +2 EQ? Or is that from Brick Break?
Actually it doesn't, I just fail. After a switch in to Stealth Rock and a turn of Sandstorm, Breloom has a 27% chance to be OHKOed. However, it's likely that it'll have switched in and taken SS damage at least once before, which makes it ~72% chance that Breloom will be OHKOed by a +2 EQ, BB, or X-Scissor.
I don't like those numbers at all. lol. If the threat of the mole is that great, doesn't that make stuff like rain necessary then? That's probably incorrect, but if rain is gone, SS will take the top spot again and Doryuzu will be the new Manaphy. It's kind of odd that one poke might make people keep rain, though sun may do fine as well, though may not see much use due to the few pokes that greatly benefit from it.
I gotta say that I really don't like this metagame right now. The only realy good thing is that the higher up my ranking goes, the less Rain teams I seem to face. I thought of actually using Rain at first, but just like Arc Tech, I can't seem to use a Rain team at all. Sandstorm just fits my style so much better, which is a bit odd because i'm a very offensive player, but than again, Rain usually crumbles apart after Politoed dies and the weather is changed on them, while Sandstorm isn't nearly as fucked. It also seems that theres more of a variety to what is put on a Sandstorm team compared to a Rain team.
Besides my little rant there, I have to say that Trick Room Rankurusu is made of absolute greatness. It just shits all over the metagame considering it's based around Speed, and priority can't stop it unless it's Sucker Punch or if Rank is at low health. Gallade has also been giving me good results.
Besides my little rant there, I have to say that Trick Room Rankurusu is made of absolute greatness. It just shits all over the metagame considering it's based around Speed, and priority can't stop it unless it's Sucker Punch or if Rank is at low health. Gallade has also been giving me good results.
Deoxys-D also has Toxic and Recover. 90 Base Speed isn't a negligible advantage, either, especially when it has Agility.
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