Well Rankurusu was never really much of a problem for balanced or offensive teams. They've just been complaining about going up against it with full stall.
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Reuniclus
- Thread starter Pratty
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It's not going to survive that Bug Buzz.
I have no idea why I'm up so late. it's actually a little depressing that I can stay up this late.
I got some bad news for you. 0 evs neutral +1 Life Orb Psycho Shock vs 0/0 neutral Volcarona 92.6 - 109.3% It most definatally cannot "eat" a Psycho Shock. However, if it gets in without taking a Psycho Shock it can deliver one hell of an attack as 252 evs Modest life orb is dealing 78.3 - 92.5% to 252/0 Neutral Reuniclus. If it could come in on a calm mind it's definatally gonna force it out or do some major damage and cripple it.
Now then I'm tired so if anyone cares to respond I'll respond to your post when I wake up.
I got some bad news for you. 0 evs neutral +1 Life Orb Psycho Shock vs 0/0 neutral Volcarona 92.6 - 109.3% It most definatally cannot "eat" a Psycho Shock. However, if it gets in without taking a Psycho Shock it can deliver one hell of an attack as 252 evs Modest life orb is dealing 78.3 - 92.5% to 252/0 Neutral Reuniclus. If it could come in on a calm mind it's definatally gonna force it out or do some major damage and cripple it.
Now then I'm tired so if anyone cares to respond I'll respond to your post when I wake up.
Wait what.... CM Reuniclus doesn't have a Life Orb.... and I'm assumming you used 252 SpAtk evs for that calc.... CM Reun runs no SpAtk evs...
Correct one: +1 Reun Psycho Shock vs 0/0 Volcarona= 71.4% - 84.2%
Although it still hurts like hell.
Correct one: +1 Reun Psycho Shock vs 0/0 Volcarona= 71.4% - 84.2%
Although it still hurts like hell.
The Calm Mind/Recover variant is beaten by pretty much anything running Encore; just switch in as it Calm Minds, and Encore. Then you either whittle its health down or force it to switch out. Bulky Politoed, for instance.
Of course, against the Trick Room variant you'll need to be using priority Encore to move first after the TR...
Of course, against the Trick Room variant you'll need to be using priority Encore to move first after the TR...
wobbufet counter cm rankurusu without shadow ball HARD. Now that is a good pokemon on stall team too and good pokemon in general. Next up just use shubarugo. if you make wrong move at switching in youll gonne get some gayishly hard amount of damage.
If you have problem with TR ranky hippowdon or something with nearly same bulk/perk with hippo works. LO base 130 with stab 80 cant 2HKO hippo so ranky wont be able to do so. Combined with 4 turn on trick room and you get the idea
If you have problem with TR ranky hippowdon or something with nearly same bulk/perk with hippo works. LO base 130 with stab 80 cant 2HKO hippo so ranky wont be able to do so. Combined with 4 turn on trick room and you get the idea
I hardly see any Rankurusu with Leftovers. On top of that, when I go to use Rank, I'm usually not thinking about any item other than Life Orb. You get a free damage boost, why wouldn't you want that? 3HKOs into 2HKOs, etc. Not all Rank players run Psycho Shock, so that's a saving grace for a non-defensive Ulgamoth. On the flipside, we're mostly being optimistic here and assuming Ulgamoth hasn't been neutered by Stealth Rock already.
Team preview goes both ways. If you know your opponent has a Reuniclus, then you should know to keep your Ttar alive until Reuniclus shows itself.
^ exactly thats why shubarugo rocks and make everyone goes "well its just shubarugo it sucks no one cares its NU go away sucky poke !!!" and play carelessly and see their ranky get fucked and still effective as a whole.
*not long later everyone learn about this and it wont work
whoops noooooooooo
and hell yeah why wont i use Lefties except for some weird reason anyway ? i rater run LO or my favorite trick orb/tail/ball ranky
*not long later everyone learn about this and it wont work
whoops noooooooooo
and hell yeah why wont i use Lefties except for some weird reason anyway ? i rater run LO or my favorite trick orb/tail/ball ranky
Chandelure is also a nice counter.
It can always survive a +1 Psycho Shock/Psychic assuming no LO,and even then,with 32 EVs in HP or 20 EVs in Sp.def,a +1 Psychic with a LO does maximum 98%.
So,assuming you switched in on the CM(With the 32 HP EVs,you can barely be 2HKO'd by a +0 LO Psychic/Psycho Shock: 42.54% - 50.37%),you can 2HKO back with a STAB Shadow Ball: 55.66% - 65.57%
It can always survive a +1 Psycho Shock/Psychic assuming no LO,and even then,with 32 EVs in HP or 20 EVs in Sp.def,a +1 Psychic with a LO does maximum 98%.
So,assuming you switched in on the CM(With the 32 HP EVs,you can barely be 2HKO'd by a +0 LO Psychic/Psycho Shock: 42.54% - 50.37%),you can 2HKO back with a STAB Shadow Ball: 55.66% - 65.57%
And if its in a trick room you'd lose though. But I guess you'd whittle it down a lot.
Sucker punching is honestly the only reliable way. And taunt or a lucky encore if your opponent doesn't see it coming.
Can't I just switch out if it's TR?
What CM Rank doesn't run LO?
Has anyone actually run Life Orb and preferred it over Leftovers? I can't imagine why. On Trick Room he needs the power but the CM set enjoys the additional durability.
CM has Recover, and LO deals no passive damage
Yes I realize that, but Skarmory and Blissey enjoy Leftovers over other items even with the obvious benefits and both having reliable recovery.
Oh yeah, Blissey and Skarm, the set up sweepers that tear apart teams
Dragonite, Mewtwo, Scrafty, Suicune, Slowbro, Celebi, Jirachi, Latias, Spiritomb, Manaphy, Altaria. The point remains... MOST Pokemon appreciate Leftovers because it aids in removing damage. And yes, now you are going to make a comment about Magic Guard, but not all damage is residual and Leftovers are useful for switching into Roobushin where you can't be using Recover while it Paybacks. In fact, most Pokemon that run a Recovery move also run Leftovers to make their bulk even more significant. Just cut it out.
Dragonite has no other recovery, and Jirachi has pretty bad recovery (compared to Recover). Secondly, you can Recover while it Paybacks, as it will only be 50 BP
Roost. Wish is actually quite good. If you keep Recovering they will predict you and set up Bulk Up, hitting you harder to break through. I edited my post with a few others. I stopped looking because I thought that was sufficient, but there are plenty more.
All those pokes need Lefties because of Residual. Also, don't even try to say wish is better than Recover on a set up sweeper. That's just stupid. And a +1 Roob can't OHKO (even close) with Payback and dies to a Psychic
@Masterful
Dragonite has roost but mainly uses Lefties on the BulkyDD set for added bulk and to negate weather damage.
@blasphemy1
Life Orb is generally prefered over Lefties because Reuniclus has the bulk to take attacks and recover back easily. Also Life Orb makes alot of Reuniclus' would be counters checks. Add that to the fact that magic guard negates Life Orb Damage and it'd be pretty easy to see that Life Orb is the superior option.
Dragonite has roost but mainly uses Lefties on the BulkyDD set for added bulk and to negate weather damage.
@blasphemy1
Life Orb is generally prefered over Lefties because Reuniclus has the bulk to take attacks and recover back easily. Also Life Orb makes alot of Reuniclus' would be counters checks. Add that to the fact that magic guard negates Life Orb Damage and it'd be pretty easy to see that Life Orb is the superior option.
I've tested both. I prefer Leftovers by far. I don't know what else to say.