Yeah, that's what it pretty much does. Terrakion also uses its horns when it uses Sacred Sword. (but most of you should know that)
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Terrakion
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Hi it has horns to slash with in an X-like formation
Circular reasoning much? I can easily say I would protect my priority user, or have more than one. Is having a Scizor and Roopushin on one team that unlikely? My statement simply pointed out that that is how you handle double dance Terakion. Not how it's absolutely foolproof because EVERY counter strategy requiers that certain members of your team don't die beforehand. It kind of goes without saying.
Having something like Zone or Rank is no disservice to your team, and a team can also easily pack lures for those common priority users
I've been testing a doubles combo with Terakion, it's worked REALLY well too. It can get him a x6 attack bonus, in the first turn.
The trick with these two, is making abuse of Terakion's ability, Justice Heart. With Beat Up able to hit 6 times, (wouldn't that mean Terakion attacks himself? ._.) each hit will raise his attack.
(does that work in-game, or is it just messed up in Online?)
You can use any pokemon for the Beat Up user, I'd suggest either Sneasle, Weavile, or like I use, Erufuun, mainly because they can outspeed Terakion at max speed.
BooMBooMToWN (Terakion) @ Life Orb Trait: Justice Heart
EVs: 128 HP / 76 Atk / 52 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Rock Slide
- Holy Sword
- Earthquake
- Protect
Erufuun (M) @ Focus Sash Trait: Mischievous Heart
EVs: 112 HP / 144 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Beat Up
- Grass Knot
- Light Screen
- Leech Seed
The trick with these two, is making abuse of Terakion's ability, Justice Heart. With Beat Up able to hit 6 times, (wouldn't that mean Terakion attacks himself? ._.) each hit will raise his attack.
(does that work in-game, or is it just messed up in Online?)
You can use any pokemon for the Beat Up user, I'd suggest either Sneasle, Weavile, or like I use, Erufuun, mainly because they can outspeed Terakion at max speed.
BooMBooMToWN (Terakion) @ Life Orb Trait: Justice Heart
EVs: 128 HP / 76 Atk / 52 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Rock Slide
- Holy Sword
- Earthquake
- Protect
Erufuun (M) @ Focus Sash Trait: Mischievous Heart
EVs: 112 HP / 144 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Beat Up
- Grass Knot
- Light Screen
- Leech Seed
His typing is actually brilliant as he gets a fantastic Stab Combo and he becomes very bulky with Sand Support.
And PO Tiers are BS anyways most players are noobs and there are too few good players to make an impact on the usage stats.
I don't think anyone decent on PO has ever said Terakion sucks, but remember that Dream World over there is the shit - this is where things like Technician Breloom reside.
Matter of fact, I think Breloom itself is just swallowing the usage of other Fighting types whole. Remember how good Heracross used to be in 4th Gen OU? Then Lucario, Infernape, and Machamp took over, and he was nowhere to be found (I still used him on occasion ;)
I wish people would stop saying this. Their tiers are not "bs", they just have an entirely different metagame from ours with their own playerbase. There are bad players on Smogon the same way there are bad players on PO. If you've gotten anywhere decently high on both ladders, you'd recognize the difference. Also, consider the fact that there are also Smogon regulars who still play there and influence usage statistics and metagame trends all the same.
(The only metagame trend going on in PO right now is Blazepassing, but I digress...)
When are they going to make Blaziken Speed Boost Baton Pass illegal since they make Dream World+egg moves illegal but not Venasaur Growth Giga Drain/Powerwhip and Blaze Speed pass since you can't breed those moves and abilities (apparently) together yet?
Sure there are good players and of course these good players sit higher on the ladder, but there are way more bad players that influence the tiers much more than the good players do. Yes i play on the Official server and there are quite a lot decent players, but i am not really sold that these players outweight the bad ones.
I mean Politoed is #13 and Starmie is #7 while Latios is #17 and i am crying when i see that Electrivire (sure he got a boost, but still) sits over Breloom, Salamence, Zapdos, zuruzukin, Terakion, Boruteruso, Randorusu, Ludicolo, Ninetales etc.
Tiers based on 8000 players, most of which barely know anything about the metagame, aren't a reliable reflection of the metagame. Stop discussion their relevance. Neither the smogon tiers nor the PO tiers have much relevance. Counting your encounters would probably be better.
Please look up the meaning of circular reasoning. PLEASE. No offense, but it causes me physical pain to listen to the misuse of terms in debate. The issue is revenging Terakion. After an RP, few things can handle it on an offensive team, and SD pretty much ruins any chance of a defensive team taking it down. Breloom is pretty damn frail, and Roob isn't that powerful (without Guts, that is), so I don't see him getting too easily revenged
How does the frailness of Breloom affect his revenge killing capabilities.....?
And revenging is not at all hard. Any priority bar Quick Attack and Extreemespeed coming from a decent attack stat will take out a weakened Terakion.
Are you fucking kidding me?
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252 Atk Adamant Roobushin vs. 0/0 Terrakion
+0 Mach Punch (40 Base Power): 52% - 61.3%
+0 Drain Punch (75 Base Power): 96.6% - 113.9%
252 Atk Adamant Roobushin (Choice Band) vs. 0/0 Terrakion
Mach Punch (40 Base Power): 78% - 91.6%
Drain Punch (75 Base Power): 144.9% - 170.9%So effectively there is Scizor and Breloom and Banded Azumarill. Breloom can easily be taken out in the course of a match because of it's frailness. Roob can't OHKO. Azumarill sucks,and Scizor is actually an option.
Breloom being able to be "taken out during the match" isn't something you can guarantee will happen, so that's irrelevant, as Technician Mach Punch Breloom is still going to murder him. Explain how Azumarill sucks. Explain why Scizor is the /only/ viable option.
There's also Hitmontop, although not as common.
I'm not even gonna respond to this...
Without set up, Terakion can't OHKO Roob. And most of the times if it tries to set up and I'm intent on sacrificing my pokemon it will end up taking enough damage for Roob to KO.
Sure, if revenging nearly all of the most dangerous sweepers in the entire metagame and luring out and KOing the most common wall in the metagame is called sucking.
Btw, I'd like it if you can give some reasoning behind your statements, instead of just making them.
Perhaps its just me but I feel this guy is more "consistent" with a Choice item.
Choice Scarf allows you to revenge kill some pokes while a Choice Band just hits everything hard except for defensive pokemon and the damn scorpion bat. With a Choice Band on Terrakion also seriously dents priority users.
EDIT: On the switch of course.
Choice Scarf allows you to revenge kill some pokes while a Choice Band just hits everything hard except for defensive pokemon and the damn scorpion bat. With a Choice Band on Terrakion also seriously dents priority users.
EDIT: On the switch of course.
I've been testing a doubles combo with Terakion, it's worked REALLY well too. It can get him a x6 attack bonus, in the first turn.
The trick with these two, is making abuse of Terakion's ability, Justice Heart. With Beat Up able to hit 6 times, (wouldn't that mean Terakion attacks himself? ._.) each hit will raise his attack.
(does that work in-game, or is it just messed up in Online?)
You can use any pokemon for the Beat Up user, I'd suggest either Sneasle, Weavile, or like I use, Erufuun, mainly because they can outspeed Terakion at max speed.
BooMBooMToWN (Terakion) @ Life Orb Trait: Justice Heart
EVs: 128 HP / 76 Atk / 52 Def / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Rock Slide
- Holy Sword
- Earthquake
- Protect
Erufuun (M) @ Focus Sash Trait: Mischievous Heart
EVs: 112 HP / 144 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Beat Up
- Grass Knot
- Light Screen
- Leech Seed
I ran into this awhile back and it wrecked my lead 'cause I failed to Fake Out Terakion first turn. It seems like a perfectly legit strategy, although my only concern is the partner--why wouldn't Erufuun be running Taunt or Encore for the ubiquitous TR leads? And it's not like +6 EQ is anything to sneeze at, so you'd want either an immunity or Protect/Wide Guard before you used it. I dunno about the damage calcs but that Erufuun would probably go down fast--as would any other non-ground immune poke you switched in.
Remember that terrakion has 91/90/90 defenses. With a sandstorm boost it's incredibly bulky. If it saw more use it could potentially become the garchomp of gen V.
Close combat
Rock slide
Substitute
Swords dance
Used this for a while. Sub eases prediction and protects you from status. The double dancer is the most common set, right? Most people wouldn't expect the sub, allowing you to boost freely, and keep your sub if they switch. You can use rock polish instead of SD, but if you can face your opponents main check with a sub up and take it out, you can outspeed most of the other pokes on their team.
Close combat
Rock slide
Substitute
Swords dance
Used this for a while. Sub eases prediction and protects you from status. The double dancer is the most common set, right? Most people wouldn't expect the sub, allowing you to boost freely, and keep your sub if they switch. You can use rock polish instead of SD, but if you can face your opponents main check with a sub up and take it out, you can outspeed most of the other pokes on their team.
Lol garchomp in gen 5 is a position only suitable of dory, metagame effect wise.
Playstyle wise, 100 STAB, 120 STAB simmilar attack, unthinkable survival, well yeah he IS garchomp's expy in gen 5.
To me CB set is THE set of choice. WIth 129 base, boosted CC will do high amount of damage to everything no doubt about it.
(btw why anyoe use E-vire anyway ? a mixed sweeper that cant break blissey AND hippo is just MEH)
Playstyle wise, 100 STAB, 120 STAB simmilar attack, unthinkable survival, well yeah he IS garchomp's expy in gen 5.
To me CB set is THE set of choice. WIth 129 base, boosted CC will do high amount of damage to everything no doubt about it.
(btw why anyoe use E-vire anyway ? a mixed sweeper that cant break blissey AND hippo is just MEH)
My fault there. Mach Punch can still revenge weakened Terakion no matter what the speed. And saying Breloom is frail has no bearing on how well he can revenge.
Breloom: Frailness is irrelevant when using... *GASP* a priority move!
Roob: Without an SD boost, Terakion won't OHKO him. Mach Punch is a solid 2HKO.
Scizor: Congratulations! You got one correct!
Azumarill: Apparently, it sucks to revenge-kill Landlos, Dory, Blaziken, Terakion... Apparently it sucks to lure in and KO the most common wall in the metagame (Nattorei).
So if you got 1/4 right then that gives you a final score of 25%. Sorry, try again next time! ^_^