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Regionals to be in November and April!

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This is good. I have no idea why people are reacting negatively. Everyone's biggest complaint for years has been that there aren't enough events, I don't know how often I've read "I would have to drive x miles, I can't go, this sucks."

This is how we get more events.

A large part of the cost is the giant tour of staff and signage and machines that had to move around the country for a month and a half. If it is run entirely on volunteer staff and we play with just ir and no big boxes, the events will be much cheaper so more events, scattered more evenly around the country.

Playing all at the same time means late regionals won't be full of copy teams, and people can't tour the country until they win, or go for multiple wins. So more people get the opportunity to t16, t4 etc.

Basically, I'm astonished that there is so much negative response to this, this is good <_<

(Also there isn't much information here so we shouldn't take it too seriously yet, but what is there falls in line with what I'd heard from people at Nats/Worlds)
 
This could be a really great thing for VGC in general, maybe not so much for Smogonites who want to meet up at Regionals though. More Regionals (especially if they're spread out) means less Smogonites at each Regional. (if they have an AR Regional (which i seriously doubt), what VGCer other than me would attend? Especially if they're on the same day) Also having them all on the same day would prevent some people from going to a second regional if they don't do well in their first one. (not saying this is a bad thing, but perhaps something TPCi wants to prevent?)

From the strategic side of me:
I don't like this, because in November / April the metagame will be very, if not completely, different. Choice Scarf <Pokemon> may be all the rage at the November Regional(s), but in April that's so old and lame. It would also put those from November Regionals (say they do the Regionals from Seattle-Dallas in November, and Atlanta-Newark in April) at a (potential, obviously the best players will be prepared, but the ones who don't have very much experience) disadvantage because they won't know what the meta is really like at that time. PO only takes you so far in getting ready for VGC.

What a clusterf*ck that was

tl;dr-Good for TPCi, has potential to be bad for Smogonites

also this is shady at best but we have nothing else to go on so let's jump all over this!

EDIT: okay Alaka ninja'd me and this is good, I guess I'm just complaining since I foresee having to drive anyway, no way they'll have an AR regional, so I may have to travel out of state regardless :P

EDIT2: If what Huy says is true disregarded what I said about the metagameand pretty much everything else

Huy said:
From what I gathered it wouldn't be splitting evens across the two months but running regionals twice in a year.
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This would be so incredibly nice. I drove 10 hours down to Atlanta and 10 hours back, and then 9 hours up to Indi and 9 hours back last year. I'd be so happy if they had more regionals, even if they were on the same day.

M Leisik doing his thing.
 
Cybertron said:
It makes some sense in TCG, because in the beginning, everyone starts with that "1600" rating. The November one is where everyone can play, and not worry about their rating that much. By the time the April Regionals come by, ratings will be a lot different due to City/State tournaments. Regionals are generally very large tournaments, and playing in the second one could secure a Worlds invite if your rating is high enough by then. If they held them back to back, it doesn't allow anyone to let their ratings grow from smaller tournaments.
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What I meant is if they do say Seattle in November and then Newark in April. If they do both Seattle and Newark twice, then it makes sense, but if they're doing different locations each month as the first newspost seems to imply, then it doesn't make much sense to me. They'll be playing very different games.

As someone who likes using these as meetups with friendly faces rather than competition, it's not ideal, but it would be interesting if they did a TCG style setup where we had more IRL tournaments. I think I'd even be able to find some volunteers to help out for a Vancouver (or from what I can see in the TCG, Surrey) event quite easily =)
 
Firestorm said:
What I meant is if they do say Seattle in November and then Newark in April. If they do both Seattle and Newark twice, then it makes sense, but if they're doing different locations each month as the first newspost seems to imply, then it doesn't make much sense to me. They'll be playing very different games.

As someone who likes using these as meetups with friendly faces rather than competition, it's not ideal, but it would be interesting if they did a TCG style setup where we had more IRL tournaments. I think I'd even be able to find some volunteers to help out for a Vancouver (or from what I can see in the TCG, Surrey) event quite easily =)
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From what I gathered it wouldn't be splitting evens across the two months but running regionals twice in a year.

for what its worth these were last years regionals

http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=144964
 
We may have an update on this as early as September 1st:
Update (2:45 PM) - TPCi is apparently thinking about whether or not to allow all generations of Pokemon into the tournaments (not just Unova Pokemon). Again, we may find out more info on September 1st when they announce the upcoming season. | Posting this during my first film class ever at USC! :p
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We already knew they were considering removing the Unova only restriction on the game, but if TCG and VGC will be running concurrently throughout the season and not just US Nats / Worlds, that means we'll probably see something September 1st as well.
 
^Lol at Tyler^
So this means.... that we have much MORE or LESS time? I'm really confused, I read all the posts, but I don't understand it. I rarely pay attention to TCG, so would someone clarify? What I THINK it means is that regionals will be this or next november, and regionals will be in april.
 
I personally like this. I don't understand anything about the whole TCG part of this, but from what I can understand, this'll be a drastic but excellent change to the VGCs.

We'll be having more locations and we won't have to wait ~10 months to play the VGC metagame. I don't think this is bad at all, if anything, it's just throwing a lot on us at once which isn't bad when it's something cool like this. So, thanks TPCI!
 
For those wondering, these were the locations of TCG Regionals last year. They don't change too often and the regions (in square brackets) are pretty set. Obviously not confirmed locations but if they do decide to run TCG and VGC on the same weekends at the same locations, these could be what we're looking at.

Surrey, BC [ Western Canada ]
Toronto, ON [ Eastern Canada ]
Long Beach, CA [ SoCal ]
Sunnyvale, CA [ NorCal ]
Salt Lake City, UT [ Mountain West - Held in Greenwood Village, CO in 2010 ]
Orlando, FL [ Florida - Held in Lake Buenta Vista, FL in 2010 ]
Atlanta, GA [ Southeast - Held in Roswell, GA in 2010 ]
Ft. Wayne, IN [ Great Lakes - Held in Angolo, IN in 2010 ]
Natick, MA [ New England - Held in Providence, RI in 2010 ]
Quinton, VA [ Mid-Atlantic ]
Crestwood, MO [ Mississippi Valley ]
Philadelphia, PA [ Northeast ]
Salem, OR [ Northwest ]
Houston, TX [ Southern Plains ]
Wisconsin Dells, WI [ Midwest ]

Of course the big difference between TCG and VGC is that they have many different events that run from November to Worlds. They have Battle Road, City, State/Provincial, Regional, and National. We just have Regional and National. This would leave a pretty large gap in between Regionals Set #1, Regionals Set #2, and Nationals.
 
If this is actually going happen, I am very glad. It looks like there will be more events, so less people have to drive a long distance to get to a regional.
Good call TPCi.
 
Firestorm said:
Surrey, BC [ Western Canada ]
Toronto, ON [ Eastern Canada ]
Long Beach, CA [ SoCal ]
Sunnyvale, CA [ NorCal ]
Salt Lake City, UT [ Mountain West - Held in Greenwood Village, CO in 2010 ]
Orlando, FL [ Florida - Held in Lake Buenta Vista, FL in 2010 ]
Atlanta, GA [ Southeast - Held in Roswell, GA in 2010 ]
Ft. Wayne, IN [ Great Lakes - Held in Angolo, IN in 2010 ]
Natick, MA [ New England - Held in Providence, RI in 2010 ]
Quinton, VA [ Mid-Atlantic ]
Crestwood, MO [ Mississippi Valley ]
Philadelphia, PA [ Northeast ]
Salem, OR [ Northwest ]
Houston, TX [ Southern Plains ]
Wisconsin Dells, WI [ Midwest ]
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE. MAYBE I CAN ATTEND ONE THIS YEAR.

On a more serious note, I would love for VGC to be held twice in a year. Other than giving more people a chance to qualify for Nationals and Worlds, it would also give more exposure to the VGC metagame to others, especially if they held it in the spots listed above.
 
So nothing next to New Jersey/York except for Pennsylvania. Great. Does that mean we'll have to wait for the April season to compete anyway?
 
Nothing's been confirmed about West Coast having their regionals in November while East Coast has them during April, other than the fact Oregon and SoCal's having them during that time. Also, they do change Regional sites (although it was in Philly the last three years), and might add more, so we'll just have to see.
 
I know I'm a bit late to the party, but I can see having only two or three big weekends of regionals, over November and April (I think that's how it'd work) having a real effect on the meta.
The first weekends play, will get overanalysed, and the second session will all be a counter to those winning teams, meaning people use similar looking teams in the second weekend. Would also mean Europe would just copy the most recent teams seen I guess.
I doubt it'll affect me in Europe, but it seems a weird way to do it, having people who won a regional months ago, and only a matter of weeks ago playing at Nationals together.
 
From the first link:

"According to Nethirious, who will be working at a November Regional in Oregon, one day will be dedicated to the TCG while the other day will be dedicated to video game challenges!"

Could it be possible that this Nethirious person saw "VGC" and assumed the "C" meant "challenges"?

If this is the format for next year, it will be interesting to see how the metagame shifts with the big lapse of time between the two dates.

Also, if it takes place in Long Beach, I'm getting the So-Cal group together for a trip to Roscoe's Chicken 'n Waffles!
 
I guess I'll reiterate for people that cannot grasp this. This is all speculation:

VGC and TCG regionals will be taking place together on the same weekend at the same venues (TCG Norcal will be in the same building as VGC Norcal in the same weekend, etc.). It will be split into two dates, some will occur in November while others will occur in April. Possible locations are in the same regions that Firestorm posted, but we shall see as more develops on the situation. This speculation is also congruent with the rumors we have heard from people at Worlds. It's as simple as that.
 
^^^ Pretty much what Duy is saying. This is all speculation. The season for TCG doesn't start until September so more information will come out till then. It's nice to know that the VGC for next season is starting to take shape though :)
 
Rukario said:
So nothing next to New Jersey/York except for Pennsylvania. Great. Does that mean we'll have to wait for the April season to compete anyway?
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I live in PA, and it's not as bad as you think. Lot's of old houses, and amish buggies, and... farms?

Oh gosh, does this mean I only have 1 shot to qualify for nats? I failed at D.C this year, but I switched my team around a bit and won at Newark. Does this mean If I get haxed at philly it's over?
 
Superpokemon67 said:
I live in PA, and it's not as bad as you think. Lot's of old houses, and amish buggies, and... farms?

Oh gosh, does this mean I only have 1 shot to qualify for nats? I failed at D.C this year, but I switched my team around a bit and won at Newark. Does this mean If I get haxed at philly it's over?
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It means you have to hit up Nats LCQ or you can go to the New England Regional :)

Honestly, this a great addition! Though I wonder if the TCG players will get bugged by us more than they already are. I'm hoping this leads to the addition of premier ratings for VGC players maybe next or even this year. It'd be nice to see who does well in tournaments quickly.
 
Mosquito said:
It means you have to hit up Nats LCQ or you can go to the New England Regional :)

Honestly, this a great addition! Though I wonder if the TCG players will get bugged by us more than they already are. I'm hoping this leads to the addition of premier ratings for VGC players maybe next or even this year. It'd be nice to see who does well in tournaments quickly.
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You kind of can't if the regionals fall on the same weekend...
 
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