It can be argued that all of the mons you listed would have been broken in a weather-free metagame as well, with the likely exception of Manaphy. Also how can you possibly consider that post long enough to be worthy of a tl;dr summary ?_?
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Simply, because it sounded like another rant against weather, and I realize how many posts some people might have seen like that. Your probably right though and it wasn't worth it.
Also, I would argue Blazeken might have been fine. A lot of people didn't like him, but what I saw was that it was agreed that drought clearly pushed him over the edge.
I really don't get why people are so up-in-arms over weather. I see it as a common battle condition, just like Stealth Rock.
# of pokemon that can learn SR: 112
# of pokemon with an auto weather ability: 8
I would say, divide the # of actual viable SR Pokemon by 6, since that list included pre-evolved unviable OU pokes, but did not include pokes banned from OU such as Diagla or Archeus, and you have about 19 viable SR pokes. Remove Hippotas, Snorunt, and Vulpix from the starters and you have 5 viable (and I would argue about Hippowdon and Abomasnow being viable) weather starters. Not only that, but in order to maximize your team, you should be running not only your own starter, but a team that should help abuse said starter's ability the most, or is strong against one of the 4 weathers (*cough* Gastradon *cough*). The two types are completely uncompilable.
It doesn't make anything unreasonably overpowered in the current metagame imo. Tbh I haven't seen any substantial arguments for it yet other than "it's bad for the metagame" (completely subjective and I have yet to see this backed up well) and "it overcentralizes the meta" (just over half of teams have an auto-weather inducer of any kind according to last round's stats.
It forces the tier to run one of 4-6 pokes, or a strategy that tries to fight off all 3 (4). Also, stats cannot be reflected as an accurate statement for the
competitive use of pokes. SJcrew made a very good point about this after the first results were given, as if we were to take the stats as given, Missingo would be the 81st strongest poke in the tier.
I really don't see why that's an issue). I'd prefer to see it stay but it looks like Drizzle might be getting the boot this round, unfortunately.
I would hope so. I may have only posted here for a generation, but from my observence of the beginning of gen 4, I ahve never seen smogon go through this much just to keep a single play style viable. Aldron's Proposal was essentially, a sell-out, since pokemon like Kingdra were not broken themselves (as shown by all SwSw's drop to UU or below), but simply the best way to break the real broken strategy, Drizzle.
The argument to keep Blaze Blazeken in OU is the exact same science here. Speed Boost itself was not the broken party (Sharpedo and Ninjask are both fine), it was just the best way to abuse the already broken poke of Blazeken.
