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@above - Regirock was mentioned, but it's still dead to Energy Ball so yeah (and how does Cradily take more from Fire Blast than Regirock from Energy Ball?).

And shrang, everyone noticed lol. Roserade usage has really skyrocketed. Although sets are not always the same (there are plenty that don't have Toxic Spikes), they do after all absorb Toxic Spikes. Also good point about Flame Body, I might start using that on my Chandelure instead. After all, it's not like I can switch Chandelure in safely against other Chandelure ...
 
@ Banedon - Yes, if you are good with chandelure, no one should be able to switch in on you with flash fire. It's painfully obvious they might try from team preview, and then they eat a shadow ball on the easy prediction. Flame body actually sounds pretty trollish, with pokemon like Pory2 countering chandy only because of flash fire.

..How much does a standard pory2 take from a 252 modest chandelure flamethrower? (I use scarf, so no way am I chancing a miss from fire blast)
 
Banedon: I think the idea was a SE Energy Ball has 160 BP while a STAB Fire Blast has 180. But Cradily has 6 more base HP and 7 more base SpD. You'd have to do a damage calc to make a call.
 
modest specs fire blast vs. cradily
42.6% - 50.5%
modest specs energy ball vs. regirock
41.2% - 48.9%

the magic of multiplication

(on a side note, regirock actually has the ability to damage chandelure without boosts)
 
nah, doesn't work against golurk. at least normal machamp can try and payback/ice punch before it gets set up on.
 
You can try CB Weavile. Its a decent check, provided it can switch into a Shadow Ball and does a ton with CB pursuit. It even outspeeds Zam.
 
The SR weakness is a huge liability to both of them, but I'm going to give them a try since I'm using sand with CB stoutland as cleaner/revenge killer and ghosts are pretty much the only things taking a cb return (rock types and steel types are machamp set up fodder).
 
ScarfKrookodile, it is a complete champ. Best Pursuit user in UU since it can even come back later to attempt a sweep with Moxie if your opponent is weak enough.
 
MetaGross66 said:
The SR weakness is a huge liability to both of them, but I'm going to give them a try since I'm using sand with CB stoutland as cleaner/revenge killer and ghosts are pretty much the only things taking a cb return (rock types and steel types are machamp set up fodder).
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Slowbro can still take a CB Return or even a Retaliate and doesn't care a lot about Houndoom's Pursuit.Weavile's Pursuit will hurt on the switch but if Slowbro stays in it can easily outstall it and eventually burn it with Scald.
It also shits all over Machamp's ugly face!!!
So if you want Stoutland sweeping you must take this also into account.

What is everyone's opinion about CM Alakazam?
I am considering making a team that will allow him to clean up-semi sweep late game.
Which moves are the best to run?
I am considering Psycho Shock,Energy Ball and HP Fire(with Life Orb of course).
Except from Houndoom and Snorlax,priority and scarfers nothing can stop it.
 
lol. I'm using hazards (SR and spikes) and Slowbro isn't taking Wild charge all to well....especially after SR and Spikes.

Oh thanks for the suggestion. Krookodile is perfect. lol
 
Hitting it in the face. It's not an easy threat to handle but it's pretty weak, I don't really want to sacrifice another slot on my team to deal with psychics, and i haven't really had to.
 
Insomniac. said:
How are you guys dealing with Alakazam?
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For the most part I've just done my best to play around him. He is a dangerous pokemon but his frailty lends itself well to 1HKOs. Well, not the focus sash variety. I do have problems with sashzam.
 
I've been seeing more Roserade/donphan/Chandelures 'cores' (i dont know how else too describe it) on teams lately. Roserade sets spikes, donphan can spin and chandelure spinblocks.
 
yes, it does allow one to bring a lot of oi...

I'm wondering about this, so I'll post it here:

Every single alakazam I've seen, I've been afraid of it being sash. yet, for some odd reason, I have never seen a sash zam. is it genuinely worse without LO or something? it seems far more fearsome..
 
Breludicolo said:
yes, it does allow one to bring a lot of oi...

I'm wondering about this, so I'll post it here:

Every single alakazam I've seen, I've been afraid of it being sash. yet, for some odd reason, I have never seen a sash zam. is it genuinely worse without LO or something? it seems far more fearsome..
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Focus Sash Alakazam is amazing and i think that it was just a coincidence that you didn't see any.
Its ability to revenge kill almost every dangerous threat out there and also be a nice late game finisher is superb!
 
Focus Sash is a nice late-game trump card, but not having the power to kill will also come back to bite you. You could lose that sash failing to kill targets you were supposed to check/revenge, and you have a lot more trouble breaking through tanks. There are a lot of weak attacks from walls you can still survive without Sash (took a Gliscor's EQ in OU once, for example) and you even get a good chance to survive stuff like CB Azu's Aqua Jet. It becomes a bit harder to capitalize on his frailty when you take passive damage out of the equation, that even the bulkiest of Pokemon are forced to take (this is also why 110/75 Def on Reuniclus seems like so damn much when it really shouldn't be).

Before you go to use Alakazam and resort straight to that 'you can't sweep me' sash, try Life Orb first. I'll bet you anything it's a lot more dangerous and can be useful to you the entire match.
 
The best thing about Sashzam is that it can be bluffed. Every time I see Alakazam in Team Preview, I look at my team and start wondering what can be sacrificed to break its Sash, only to have the sacrifice CH'd into oblivion before hitting and my Scarfer netting a kill because it was LO Zam all time long.
 
Mario With Lasers said:
The best thing about Sashzam is that it can be bluffed. Every time I see Alakazam in Team Preview, I look at my team and start wondering what can be sacrificed to break its Sash, only to have the sacrifice CH'd into oblivion before hitting and my Scarfer netting a kill because it was LO Zam all time long.
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QFT

It should be high priority to know the damage cals of LOZam v. Sashzam for your teams switchins. Otherwise I hope you like mind games and headaches.
 
Thinking of switching up my team a little bit, but I'm a little bit hesitant to. Who do i want to put in? Chandelure.

Here's the team:

Scyther: Technician+eviolite+good moveset= sweeper

Darmanitan: Can hit pretty much everything good with sheer force flare blitz. I'm thinking of making him scarfed from a CB though....

Slowbro: The tank on my team. Can burn and toxistall my opponents.

Exeggutor: Specs user. Laff all you want, but this guy is really good in battle.

Donphan: My spinner. Having 3 weak to rocks is not good.

Galvantula: My LO user with an awesome coverage pool of thunder, bug buzz, energy ball, and HP fire. Nobody expects energy ball from an electric type!

If you're all wondering why I didn't put this in RMT, it's because I'm just trying to find a spot on my team for chandelure. Darmanitan maybe, but I only have 2 physical sweepers on my team.
 
Well, you don't need any physical sweepers if you can shit on the special walls/tanks/counters (read: subCM Chandelure vs. Chansey) anyway.
 
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