5th Gen PRNG Help / Info - Latest: RNG Reporter 9.96.5, PPRNG 1.15.0

I am Using RNG Reporter 9.81 Beta 5th Gen
I am Attempting a Shiny Breed Venonat with HP Earth and 31's in remaining Stats
Min Max Delay is 600-610
0017AB8321BF is my Mac address

So my Problem is that I found my DS Parameters timer0 went equally from C80 and C7F
But when I go to 4th/5th Gen SHiny Egg Finder and Put in all the Info I don't Get any Seeds at all to choose From I have tried Brodening my Search as well as putting Keypresses to 1 and Many other things but I haven't Gotten any Seeds I have tried Every month. I am Using a Flawless Ditto and a Flawless Venomoth as Parents. Min/Max Frame is set to 8 and I can't Find anything wrong.

I had Bond Help me out a Few months ago when I started ,and it worked then. Now I am using a Different computer so I lost all the Before Changes.
 
Scott Chenevert said:
I'd love to but I'm not sure how to upload an image.
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Ok, which type of RNG abuse are you doing? Breeding or wild?

Skinner said:
I am Using RNG Reporter 9.81 Beta 5th Gen
I am Attempting a Shiny Breed Venonat with HP Earth and 31's in remaining Stats
Min Max Delay is 600-610
0017AB8321BF is my Mac address

So my Problem is that I found my DS Parameters timer0 went equally from C80 and C7F
But when I go to 4th/5th Gen SHiny Egg Finder and Put in all the Info I don't Get any Seeds at all to choose From I have tried Brodening my Search as well as putting Keypresses to 1 and Many other things but I haven't Gotten any Seeds I have tried Every month. I am Using a Flawless Ditto and a Flawless Venomoth as Parents. Min/Max Frame is set to 8 and I can't Find anything wrong.

I had Bond Help me out a Few months ago when I started ,and it worked then. Now I am using a Different computer so I lost all the Before Changes.
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If you're in the 4th/5th gen. Shiny Egg finder, the min/max frame should not be 8! Set the min to 60 or 70 and the max to around 600 or 500 or even lower if you want. This is your PID frame. It's impossible to hit PID frame 8, since your PID starting frame will be at least 40. Try making the min/max frame 60 to 400 and see if you get any results.
 
I was meaning I set Min Max to 8 on the Capture tab on the 4th/5th Gen Shiny Egg finder its on 60-200 atm
I was told 600-610 is the Delay for 4th gen does that mean on 5th Gen it needs to change?
 
The min/max delay doesn't matter. The capture tab in general doesn't matter when breeding lol.

Hmm. Do you have an everstone nature? It could be likely that you're not finding anything because you don't have an everstone nature selected. Try making your PID frame range wider and make sure the parameters are correct. Also select 3 keypresses if you didn't already. The only thing I can think of is that your PID range isn't wide enough or that you don't have an everstone nature (If you're looking for a specific nature).

I'm not sure what else you're doing wrong. If you can show me a snapshot that might help :P
 
I have an Everstone Nature on and I have widened it before and It still didn't work I will get some Screen Shots and Edit them in
RNGReporterScreenshot1.jpg

RNGReporterScreenshot.jpg
 
Skinner said:
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Change the keypresses to 3, not 0. You're most likely never going to find seeds with 0 keypresses, and very rarely will you find ones with 1 keypress. If you already tried 3 keypresses, I'm not sure what else could be wrong. So I suggest:

- Choose 3 keypresses
- Widen the PID range, about 70-400 or 500 is good
- Maybe find a parent with a 30 in SpD or SpA

Everything else is correct.
 
Match both parents IVs to the seed you're trying to find.

Ex: You want an HP Ground spread, so:

Mother: 31/31/31/30/30/31
Father: 31/31/31/30/30/31
Seed IVs: 31/None or HP/31/30/30/31

Leave keypresses at 0, and keep sifting through the months til' you find one.
 
MeGaMaN X said:
Match both parents IVs to the seed you're trying to find.

Ex: You want an HP Ground spread, so:

Mother: 31/31/31/30/30/31
Father: 31/31/31/30/30/31
Seed IVs: 31/None or HP/31/30/30/31

Leave keypresses at 0, and keep sifting through the months til' you find one.
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I don't think he should do that. Having 3 keypresses is going to increase the chance to find a seed, which is exactly his problem: finding a seed. But I agree with the part about the parents :)
 
Okay I set it to 3 Keypresses and Changed out the HP ground to see if I will get a Seed and Still No Seed Could it be a Problem with Timer0 or anything else?
 
Skinner said:
Okay I set it to 3 Keypresses and Changed out the HP ground to see if I will get a Seed and Still No Seed Could it be a Problem with Timer0 or anything else?
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Sorry... I have no idea. Try making your timer0 C7F (Is that your other timer0?). But I'm not sure why your other timer0 would work while this one doesn't.
 
I never use keypresses and I usually find a great bunch of seeds to choose from. I do, however, use international parents. Maybe you should try using some?
 
actually, I already did the search with both nationals and international parents. the result was the same. So probably that's not your problem here.
 
Biosci said:
Okay well all breeding seeds are located on IV Frame 8. The seed that you got is for the PID Frame. So your desired frame is 73. When you put this seed in the main Window of RNGreporter(After Selecting BW Breeding as the Method) and paste the seed into the box that says "Seed". After that you click "Calculate Initial PID Frame". This will give your your Initial frame, but with breeding we have to deal with NPCs. NPCs on Route 3 range from 4-6. So just add 4 to your Initial frame and that's your starting frame.
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Thank you greatly for your help! :D
I just got my Shiny Male Flawless Cleffa. x3
I'm so excited!
 
Biosci said:
Yay I helped :3

But, Sadly Igglybuff>Cleffa as Jigglypuff will always reign Supreme :P
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I don't have preference between the two, although Clefable does get Aromatherapy. d:

I just needed a male Clefairy so I can get a Shiny Whimsicott with Encore.
But I named him Medley, and I'm going to give him a variation of the Calm Mind set I guess. Sadly he can't learn Softboiled. :c
 
So I think I figured out my Problem even though I had no Idea it mattered The Main Page in RNG Reporter I switched it to BW breeding and then didn't input anything into the Capture Tab and then in 4th/5th Gen Shiny Egg finder I finally got seeds
But I had watched the Bearsfan Video and He had in there to input stuff into the Capture Tag I guess thats what Messed it up
 
Misdreavus said:
Thanks, Biosci and UpsideDownHitmontop. The only problem with Biosci's method is that it basically limits you to 1/8192 of the possible results (if a result is non-shiny for the inputted ID/SID combo but is otherwise perfect, it won't be listed), so you may have to input a high max frame and/or try various ID/SID combos before you can get a single result.

One other thing I'd like to suggest is the ability to select multiple encounter slots as search parameters, since many Pokémon appear in more than 1 slot in a particular area.

I also see that there is an area in the development notes for subjects to research; I'd love to see the researching of PID generation of WonderCard Pokémon in 4th gen and the PID generation of Entralink Pokémon, but I realize those aren't pressing matters.
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i've done both of those, actually. 4th gen wondercards are generated using another sort of rng that uses timer0 for 1 half and.. something else for the other. at the point the poke is generated, t0 is running @ 33.513982mhz which would make it extremely hard to time.

entralink pokes are created somewhat similar to wild pokes, actually. the xor to make their pid is either 0 or 0x10000, though, not 0x10000 or 0x80010000. their pid generation method is actually a special check in the pkm generation routine. it skips the normal struct that chooses pid type.

basically, it's rand(0) to return the upper half of the seed, bit-clear the bottom byte and OR that bottom byte with.. something. it was assumed to be the gender value, but that pretty much can't be right. i guess i could have a look at that. then the pid is either xor-ed with 0x10000 or not depending on something else. in fact, talking about it reminds me that i need to go fix some stuff in my arm9 disassembly...

Winters Zombie said:
People have had trouble getting them to work letting them go there. So I say the star crashing is a good amount of time, that even if you let go a bit early. It won't matter in the end.
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no, the seed is set by the 7th video frame after booting.(9th on a ds phat) waiting until that white screen is still too long, but is acceptable for the sake of being careful.

and if you're wondering how i know which frame, one of the parameters gives it away: vframe. vframe is also what we call delay. in truth, it's the vblank counter buffer in the system-shared area of ram. each time vblank runs, a frame has passed. if vblank has occurred 6 times, then the game is on frame 7.


UpsideDownHitmontop said:
You're doing something wrong. There are no NPCs in your room so your starting frame should be whatever RNG reporter says (Frame 49). You need to save 26 times to get to frame 75.
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any given initial seed can have(as far as i've observed) up to 4 or 5 different(maybe more?) starting frames. reporter doesn't give the exact starting frame every time, just usually.
 
Hi, I was wondering, for romers, what encounter slot do they ocupy when in a route, or how can I gaurentee an encounter with a roamer?
 
Wii Man said:
Hi, I was wondering, for romers, what encounter slot do they ocupy when in a route, or how can I gaurentee an encounter with a roamer?
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There's no encounter slot for a roamer. Roamer IV/PID is set when you it flies off from outside the house on route 7 so you have to save inside the house and RNG there. After that you just run around on whatever route it's roaming until you encounter it.

Roamers are extremely difficult to RNG. You should probably wait until you have more experience before attempting to RNG one.

EDIT: Well I guess it's not that difficult if you don't care about shininess. You could just get the nature by luck.
 
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