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The Fysical Phitness Thread

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Then stop acting like one.

popemobile said:
lift heavier, eat more, repeat forever

boom, bulk
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I understand people ask the same questions repeatedly, but if you're not going to put in the effort required to give good advice, then don't bother at all.
 
It's not that your post is bad, it's just the way you expressed yourself in it. People kinda come here for a true, honest response to help themselves out. Something like what you posted just makes you look sorta like a dick.

Also yeah, Energy drinks are fucking horrible. So many unneeded calories in one single shit bull or whatever its called. The sugar in that shit is off the limits too.
 
DM said:
Get all of that fucking tripe out of your life. NOW. Even the low-carb varieties. There is not a SINGLE redeeming quality about them, water is a million times better.
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what i got out of this was 'don't drink anything that's not water ever again.'

lmfao (morning after edit: don't take that as a call out, literally just commenting on how i read that)


edit: nina, rules were meant to be broken, eh? ;)
 
Stylish Interval said:
what i got out of this was 'don't drink anything that's not water ever again.'

lmfao
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haha, same here, it was especially funny to me because that's what i do.........
all i drink is
-water
-milk
-whey protein mixed in water or milk depending on what i have laying around.


of course all of this is about to change, i have about 3 thanksgiving dinners to go to and i plan on "BREAKING SOME RULES", just a few. o yeah baby, cant wait!

Edit: thank God i am naturally not a fan of alcohol or it would be hard[harder? i still fail every now and then] not getting wasted in social situations
 
alcohol doesn't fuck with your diet provided, you know, you log it and don't cheat yourself. being a college senior im pretty sure i can tell you that you won't really lose a step by drinking a bit (or maybe i have a good metabolism, prolly the latter). nonetheless, the people that blame alcohol on minimizing gains don't actively account for it in their diet, and they just end up cheating themselves. remember you only make gains provided you're true to yourself and your capabilities. no one's gonna become arnold on day 1 of lifting. its a slow process that takes time but if you stick with it and DO YOU and FOCUS ON YOU you'll get to whatever your goals are.

listen to venom, energy drinks are horrible. you might be able to get away with them post workout for that insulin spike, but even then there's a ton of better options like just dextrose. i never understand why anyone needs anything other than milk or water. a nice COLD glass of water does more waking up for me than coffee ever will.
 
the thing that bothers me about alcohol is how it affects me the next day. i may not drink a lot but when i do i go all out, just ask DM, he has seen me get drunk, it wasn't pretty and usually what happens is that i cant do shit the next day. i wish i was the kind of person that could get their work outs[among other things] done the day after drinking heavily, i really do.
BUT i am hoping that in time, i'll come to handle the over all situation better, from liking alcohol[God, what terrible taste, and i've tasted a few in an attempt to find something i like] to handling the next day better
 
DM said:
Surprisingly (and this is something I found out only a couple weeks ago), Guinness pints are one of the healthiest beer choices you can make. They have between 110-120 calories each, which is the same amount that you'd get in any rat piss American light beer (Bud, Coors, etc., and it's actually LESS than some). So it wasn't the Guinness after all!
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i wasn't aware it was quite that low in calories but I did know it was one of the healthier choices on account of its high iron content and antioxidant count - most beers contain no nutrition at all so it's nice to know the calories in Guinness aren't completely empty. that's what led to the 'guinness makes you strong' campaign of yesteryear.

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there was even a period where doctors would prescribe it to pregnant women but we know that's not such hot advice now!

anyway, from a working out perspective one of the biggest problems with alcohol is the fact that it's a depressant as opposed to a stimulant - after a big night your metabolism is stunted for a period (2-3 days iirc) and obviously you're not gonna get far like that since your metabolism is responsible for...well...everything. combine that with all the hidden calories in beer and the fact that alcohol releases ghrelin - the hormone that causes you to crave fat (often kebab hehe) and you have a nasty combination on your hands - shitloads of excess calories, a weakened metabolism that can't burn them off as quickly and you're too hungover to do any real exercise.

if i was doling out fitness advice i'd say 'avoid alcohol completely' but that would be a bit hypocritical of me since i drink a lot myself and i'm aware of the social effects of avoiding alcohol too - just be mindful of what you're drinking and regulate it, like ToF said. just don't kid yourself that it's not a big deal...I see that attitude all too often.
 
yum Guinness, I just had two last night (special occasions, out-of-town friends were here for dinner)

Stylish Interval said:
what i got out of this was 'don't drink anything that's not water ever again.'

lmfao (morning after edit: don't take that as a call out, literally just commenting on how i read that)
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Man, that's not too far from the truth. The only thing you truly NEED to drink in life is water, everything else is just a luxury. Simple rule: if it isn't naturally occurring, you shouldn't drink it. That pretty much eliminates everything but water and milk, so there you go.

The only things I ever drink are:
Water
Skim milk in my shakes
Booze (only on weekends, and I control my portions and stay away from high calorie shit)

Ninahaza said:
the thing that bothers me about alcohol is how it affects me the next day. i may not drink a lot but when i do i go all out, just ask DM, he has seen me get drunk, it wasn't pretty and usually what happens is that i cant do shit the next day.
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Um, yeah, broseph, that's called A HANGOVER
 
Yeah, I should have just said I'm too terrible with hangovers instead of typing out a paragraph.

Know what Adam, I don't even care because I'll be a pro by next year. We shall drink, slur all over the place about CHESTER COPPERPOTS, wake up the next day and have a Ninahaza vs DM finals on the worlds stage. Fuck hangovers

PS: come to nationals, I don't want to hear any of this "I can't make it" bs
 
Maybe Hawaii for worlds, definitely no Indy.

I just weighed myself tonight at my parents' house, 177 clothed so about 174. That's down from about 195 back in September, I am KILLING it right now. And I'm still 4 days away from 2/3 done.
 
3 and a half hours of soccer today because the JV team needed extra players

but fuck man we took it to them. JV 2-1 Varsity 3-0. I scored in the varsity game but they disallowed it because their goalie grabbed my leg from behind and fouled me hard. ball rolls in, ref declares a penalty. no booking, no goal. it was a pretty big WTF moment. of course we missed the penalty too...
 
ganna try for a super duper clean bulk, like 10 lbs in 3.5 months. any advice on this other than eat slightly above maintenance and working my way up slowly? doing SL 5x5 and swimming for high school during this btw
 
chicken chicken tuna tuna chicken chicken tuna tuna veggies veggies chicken chicken whey whey etc. etc.

:P

i'd probably pick two diets that are a week long that you should follow. stick to them as closely as possible, maybe give one cheat meal (within a reasonable amount of calories) per week. 90% clean is the rule of thumb in my book. but these two diets you pick one as a Week A diet, another as a Week B diet; vary it up, ya know? Maybe even a Week C diet. This'll help you get though the 12-16 weeks without feeling like 'chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken chicken fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck', knawatimean?

cottage cheese too, but get the good kind. the kind with like 1 g fat / 26 g protein, not the 2 g fat / 8 g protein kind. plain yogurt works to the same effect. would reccomend mixed nuts just to put in some extra calories, unless you're talking super duper clean like < 15% fat in your diet, in which case fuck the nuts. seriously though, if you need help with calories, mixed nuts in a bag (or you can make your own healthy trail mix i guess, wahtever kind of shit you want), take a handful every hour. that'll add up to plenty of calories if you need some excess.

:D
 
uraga said:
ganna try for a super duper clean bulk, like 10 lbs in 3.5 months. any advice on this other than eat slightly above maintenance and working my way up slowly? doing SL 5x5 and swimming for high school during this btw
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5x5 and swimming at the same time? Doesn't sound like a good idea. I don't know you personally, but I don't think you'll be able to make it with both. Unless it's some little light shit swimming like a few laps every other day, I wouldn't worry. If you're swimming everyday though, it's gonna take a toll on your legs for squatting...trust me. Not only swimming, any other sport like soccer does too. You might think you can handle it, but in the end you're gonna be sore on your lifting day from swimming and you're gonna be sore on your swimming day from lifting. Only thing I would suggest doing is replacing 5x5 for 3x5.

By the way, 3x5 > 5x5. You won't be benefiting much from 5x5 to 3x5, besides a little more technique being learned. You won't get any stronger from doing 5x5 instead of 3x5.

For clean bulking, I would probably try to fit an extra plate somewhere in your daily maintainable. You can also try peanuts, eating a couple handfuls as snacks really adds up calories and protein. I cannot stress enough how powerful peanut butter though. You can eat it, drink it, grill it, fucking boil it - its so versatile. Eat peanut butter with a spoon. Put some in your protein shake. Eat P&B sandwiches and milk with peanut butter in it. Fuck, eat some fucking broccoli with peanut butter. It's probably one of the most helpful things when it comes to bulking.
 
uraga said:
ganna try for a super duper clean bulk, like 10 lbs in 3.5 months. any advice on this other than eat slightly above maintenance and working my way up slowly? doing SL 5x5 and swimming for high school during this btw
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pick up some bags of frozen chicken/fish. Tons of protein, not tons of calories. Also great for dieting. You'll have to make sure you hit your macros, but clean food like chicken/fish will definitely help with clean bulking

Venom said:
5x5 and swimming at the same time? Doesn't sound like a good idea. I don't know you personally, but I don't think you'll be able to make it with both. Unless it's some little light shit swimming like a few laps every other day, I wouldn't worry. If you're swimming everyday though, it's gonna take a toll on your legs for squatting...trust me. Not only swimming, any other sport like soccer does too. You might think you can handle it, but in the end you're gonna be sore on your lifting day from swimming and you're gonna be sore on your swimming day from lifting. Only thing I would suggest doing is replacing 5x5 for 3x5.
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Swimming is very low impact, so it shouldn't hurt too much as far as "taking a toll" on your legs for squatting. The bigger issue would be keeping track of how many calories you're burning, since clean bulking leaves little room for error (which is basically why I don't do it)

By the way, 3x5 > 5x5. You won't be benefiting much from 5x5 to 3x5, besides a little more technique being learned. You won't get any stronger from doing 5x5 instead of 3x5.
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Personally disagree but both work fine. Extra work on form never hurts though, as it's the most important thing imo.

For clean bulking, I would probably try to fit an extra plate somewhere in your daily maintainable. You can also try peanuts, eating a couple handfuls as snacks really adds up calories and protein. I cannot stress enough how powerful peanut butter though. You can eat it, drink it, grill it, fucking boil it - its so versatile. Eat peanut butter with a spoon. Put some in your protein shake. Eat P&B sandwiches and milk with peanut butter in it. Fuck, eat some fucking broccoli with peanut butter. It's probably one of the most helpful things when it comes to bulking.
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I ate peanut butter on toast every day when I was bulking. It's basically the best.
 
just finished my first week of lifting/swimming and gotta say it was pretty painful but that's ok! I'll attribute that to not swimming for 3 months, going to 5 practices this week, and lifting the same day I swam. planning to lift mon/thurs/sat and swim mon/tues/wed/fri, so that schedule should go a little better.

and yeah venom my legs were definitely tight during swim practice but stretching + easing up on the kick really helped and they were fine for lifting sessions so I think I'll be able to manage that. and I'll just man up and deal with the sore upper body I guess. I'm actually in the process of shifting to 3x5 of the SL workout, already doing bench and ohp 3x5 but I'll wait for other lifts to get a bit heavier before I completely change

for diet I've just been eating whatever shit I can get, recently added a regular afternoon snack, usually a can of tuna if I lifted or something lighter if I didn't. will definitely get some nuts over the weekend and incorporate more peanut butter though, I <3 pbj sandwiches but haven't had one in ages before today. and we have some high class cherry preserve shit we bought at a halal store a while ago so that's p jizztastic. never done this calorie counting thing before, will I be ok just estimating and eating a bit more than I usually do or will I actually have to put in a lot of effort here?
 
I find peanut butter to be very dry when eating with bread after lifting. To mitigate that, I usually have sliced bananas in the PB sandwich that I'm eating, or have some sort of soy milk drink that also has protein.
 
That's why you eat it with something moist like jelly or honey. Peanut butter by itself is pretty good but with bread it has a very dry taste. Make it easier on yourself.
 
Old Fashioned Oatmeal or Quick Oats is a perfect bulking food, a great complex carbohydrate that keeps your apetite leveled and the boost of energy before a workout is a plus.

I personally eat 2 Cups Quick Oats with a dash of ground cinnamon and sliced banana pieces and its delicious. You can even add some whey protein and milk for some extra protein and flavor. Avoid the instant oatmeal as they fill that stuff up with so much refined sugar and ingredients that aren't necessary for your body.
 
sup guys

there is this thing called fitocracy
i joined it today
it looks cool i guess?
i have invites so i figured i'd invite anyone who wanted to come join
http://ftcy.co/v7bJNz

let's compete >:D

also, smogon group if we have enough people? y/n sounds like a fun thing to do

also, shameless plug everyone come have fun on #lifting i swear uragg won't rub his asian elitism in your face all the time

edit: you should also say who you are....
 
remember lift hard before your thanksgiving dinner tomorrow. you're gonna wake up like a fucking hulk.
 
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