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OU CCAT: Nidoking Edition
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I have also used this set, however I ran iron plate and tailwind over pursuit, it didn't do to badly, just another option- oh and thanks, I remember playing you on showdown loads last night :3100% support shnen's Rotom-W set.
Scizor @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
Adamant nature
- U-turn
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Pursuit
Nidoking will obviously have a very tough time muscling past things like Blissey, Reuncius or Latias when they're at full health so a strong physical attacker would be nice. Scizor handles all of the aformentioned threats to Nido. Scizor can also picks off pokemon that are faster than Nidoking with Bullet Punch. This works out pretty good resistance wise as well (3/4).
I'll edit more sets in later
I'll second the Scizor and Rotom-W combination as I used them on my own team involving Nidoking, however I'd suggest changing Rotom's item and set to Trick Specs, to help deal with defensive teams better.
I'd also like to suggest Taunt+SD Cobalion and Stallbreaker Crobat as teammates.
Crobat @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Foucs
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly nature
- U-turn
- Brave Bird
- Super Fang
- Taunt
Such an underrated set in this metagame. Checks faster sweepers like Latios, revenges pokemon easily, maintains momentum with U-Turn and can help stallbreak with the Pain Split+Taunt combination. A truly excellent Pokemon, espescially with breaking through the pink blobs.
Cobalion is the standard SD+Taunt set on the analysis and I've found its surprisingly effective in OU.
I'd also like to suggest Taunt+SD Cobalion and Stallbreaker Crobat as teammates.
Crobat @ Leftovers
Trait: Inner Foucs
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly nature
- U-turn
- Brave Bird
- Super Fang
- Taunt
Such an underrated set in this metagame. Checks faster sweepers like Latios, revenges pokemon easily, maintains momentum with U-Turn and can help stallbreak with the Pain Split+Taunt combination. A truly excellent Pokemon, espescially with breaking through the pink blobs.
Cobalion is the standard SD+Taunt set on the analysis and I've found its surprisingly effective in OU.
Quoting myself for JUSTICE
In the theme of bulky offense I'd like to propose a pokemon in a similar vein to The King that can potentially handle many of his checks.
Gallade (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Steadfast
EVs: 240 HP / 40 Atk / 216 SDef / 12 Spd
Careful Nature (+SDef, -SAtk)
- Bulk Up
- Drain Punch
- Leaf Blade/Ice Punch/Psycho Cut
- Shadow Sneak
Comes out of the box and can handle a lot of special attackers quite easily with his impressive Special Defense becoming more deadly and bulky with every boost. Also has access to priority with shadow sneak and has coverage options designed to stop threats to Nido's reign.
Paralysis support can't hurt, but Nidoking has decent enough speed (Timid outspeeds Modest Hydreigon, who doesn't need paralysis) that wearing down bulky mons that Nidoking can't immediately kill is about as important (Earth Power is a 3HKO on standard Gastrodon).
Tinkerbell Celebi can do both and more.
Celebi @ Life Orb
232 HP/252 Sp Atk/36 Spe
Natural Cure
Modest
-Thunder Wave
-Leaf Storm
-Recover
-Hidden Power Fire
This set does many things well, as Leaf Storm nukes stuff, Recover and hp investment provide a surprising amount of longevity despite Life Orb, Thunder Wave fits as an excellent support move, and Natural Cure lets Celebi be a status absorber, which is always useful. HP Fire is mainly for Scizor. Speed creep as necessary.
To top it off, Celebi and Nidoking have great synergy, only sharing an ice weakness. The pink blobs are, of course, problems, but they are a) not that common and b) can be dealt with by other teammates.
Tinkerbell Celebi can do both and more.
Celebi @ Life Orb
232 HP/252 Sp Atk/36 Spe
Natural Cure
Modest
-Thunder Wave
-Leaf Storm
-Recover
-Hidden Power Fire
This set does many things well, as Leaf Storm nukes stuff, Recover and hp investment provide a surprising amount of longevity despite Life Orb, Thunder Wave fits as an excellent support move, and Natural Cure lets Celebi be a status absorber, which is always useful. HP Fire is mainly for Scizor. Speed creep as necessary.
To top it off, Celebi and Nidoking have great synergy, only sharing an ice weakness. The pink blobs are, of course, problems, but they are a) not that common and b) can be dealt with by other teammates.
I second Tinkerbell Celebi and, if this set is chosen, another potential partner would be:
Lucario@Life Orb
4HP/252 Sp Atk/252 Spe
Inner Focus
Timid
-Nasty Plot
-Aura Sphere
-Dark Pulse
-Vacuum Wave
This thing is a BEAST! Here are some calcs (I use the Smogon damage calculator, but make a pokemon with the same stats for BW pokes. Feel free to check my calcs.)
Lucario@Life Orb +2 252 Timid Aura Sphere vs 252/0 Bold Blissey: 75.9% - 89.4%, OHKO with a bit of residual damage
Lucario@Life Orb +2 252 Timid Aura Sphere vs 252/0 Bold Eviolite Chansey: 63.4% - 75%, a clean 2HKO
Lucario@Life Orb +2 252 Timid Aura Sphere vs 252/168 RelaxedFerrothorn: 101.1% - 119.3%, OHKO
Lucario@Life Orb +2 252 Timid Aura Sphere vs 252/0 Impish Skarmory: 93.4% - 109.9%, OHKO with SR
Lucario@Life Orb +2 252 Timid Aura Sphere vs 252/224 Careful Jirachi: 42.6% - 50.5%, 2HKO with SR and 1 layer of Spikes
I second this nomination, it destroys any defensive core that would give Nidoking trouble, such as SkarmBliss, FerroCent, and CeleTran.
I would also like to nominate SD Virizion. It can break down bulky waters that will give Nidoking trouble as well, such as Gastrodon, Vaporeon, and Politoed. Here's the set:
Virizion @ Life Orb
Trait: Justified
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Naive Nature (+Spd, -SDef) / Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Close Combat
- Leaf Blade
- Hidden Power [Ice] / Stone Edge
Alrighty!
Poll is up! We will be using the same voting system as always, meaning 3 points for your 1st nomination and 1 point for your 2nd and 3rd.
Teammates Ballot
Happy voting!
Poll is up! We will be using the same voting system as always, meaning 3 points for your 1st nomination and 1 point for your 2nd and 3rd.
Teammates Ballot
- Jirachi (Wish) & Starmie (LO/Rapid Spin) - skidilidy
- Whimsicott (Support) - shnen
- Rotom-W (Paralysis) - shnen
- Whimsicott (Support) & Dragonite (Sub + DD) - That Noob
- Hydreigon (Stallbreaker) - Eggbert
- Togekiss (Paralysis) & Starmie (Rapid Spin/LO) - Axmaster68
- Jirachi (Wish) & Rotom-W (Scarf) - DetroitLolcat
- Gyarados (Sub + DD) & Sableye (Stallbreaker) - Seth Vilo
- Latios (Calm Mind + LO) - Pocket
- Celebi (Baton Pass & TWave) - Pocket
- Skarmory (Spikes) & Rotom-W (Choice Specs) - YAYtearns
- Terrakion (Choice Band) - Pocket
- Tyranitar (Choice Band) & Rotom-W (Thunder Wave) - MetaGross66
- Dragonite (ParaShuffle) - bluemon & Vermane
- Gallade (Bulk Up) - Skore
- Conkeldurr (Sub + FPunch) - Joeyboy
- Scizor (Choice Band) - Brizznetz
- Ferrothorn (Spikes & TWave) - ThePillsburyDoughBoy
- Crobat (Stallbreaker) - Texas Cloverleaf
- Celebi (LO + TWave) - WeaponsofMassConstruction
- Lucario (Nasty Plot) - Straw Hat
- Virizion (Swords Dance) - complete legitimacy
Happy voting!
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1: Baton Pass + TWave Celebi
2: Calm Mind + LO Latios
3: Swords Dance Virizion
Celebi supports Nidoking well by sponging strong water hits, as well as ground moves. More importantly, Celebi facilitates Nidoking's sweep with paralysis, luring in mons like Latios, Volcarona, and Tornadus, and passing NP / CM boosts to Nidoking, so it can even break through Gastrodon, Chansey, and Blissey.
Latios is a great wall-breaker that can lure and destroy Gastrodon, Chansey, and Blissey with CM-augmented Psyshock. It's awesome speed is helpful in checking powerful threats of this OU meta, particularly Landorus, Terrakion, Virizion, and Infernape.
SD Virizion acts as a perfect complementary offense to Nidoking. Nidoking attracts special walls like a magnet, which Virizion can switch and set-up easily.
1: Baton Pass + TWave Celebi
2: Calm Mind + LO Latios
3: Swords Dance Virizion
Celebi supports Nidoking well by sponging strong water hits, as well as ground moves. More importantly, Celebi facilitates Nidoking's sweep with paralysis, luring in mons like Latios, Volcarona, and Tornadus, and passing NP / CM boosts to Nidoking, so it can even break through Gastrodon, Chansey, and Blissey.
Latios is a great wall-breaker that can lure and destroy Gastrodon, Chansey, and Blissey with CM-augmented Psyshock. It's awesome speed is helpful in checking powerful threats of this OU meta, particularly Landorus, Terrakion, Virizion, and Infernape.
SD Virizion acts as a perfect complementary offense to Nidoking. Nidoking attracts special walls like a magnet, which Virizion can switch and set-up easily.
Bwahaha! I will vote and you can't do a thing about it!
Jirachi (Wish) & Rotom-W (Scarf))
Jirachi (Wish) & Starmie (LO/Rapid Spin)
Skarmory (Spikes) & Rotom-W (Choice Specs)
Paralysis and team support FTW!
Jirachi (Wish) & Rotom-W (Scarf))
Jirachi (Wish) & Starmie (LO/Rapid Spin)
Skarmory (Spikes) & Rotom-W (Choice Specs)
Paralysis and team support FTW!
1.Rapid Spin/LO Starmie
2.Paralysis Togekiss
3. Swords Dance Virizion
2.Paralysis Togekiss
3. Swords Dance Virizion
1. Virizion (Swords Dance)
2. Lucario (Nasty Plot)
3. Celebi (LO + TWave)
2. Lucario (Nasty Plot)
3. Celebi (LO + TWave)
1. Celebi (LO+TWave)
2. Dragonite (Parashuffle)
3. Lucario (Nasty Plot)
2. Dragonite (Parashuffle)
3. Lucario (Nasty Plot)
1. Tyranitar (Choice Band) & Rotom-W (Thunder Wave)
2. Hydreigon (Stallbreaker)
3. Latios (Calm Mind + LO)
2. Hydreigon (Stallbreaker)
3. Latios (Calm Mind + LO)
