Elm. It was backtracked from 5th although it should've been known before since the pitch does change. Oversight I guess.
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Elm. It was backtracked from 5th although it should've been known before since the pitch does change. Oversight I guess.
Copy and paste the seed you're using in the main page. Mark what kind of breeding you're doing and hit generate. You said frame 13 had the ivs you wanted so check if the ivs you're getting match the ones from frame 14,15 and 16. If they do then the only thing you'll have to do its reduce the amount of chatters you do.
Yes, I know the ditto counts as an international parent. And I should have mentioned in my first post that I'm playing on a Soul Silver game, I apologize for that omission.
Below is a screenshot of the RNGReporter windows as I was using them if that helps solve the problem.
If I remember correctly, there was a bug of sorts when trying to breed a non shiny offspring using International Parents(as that helps give you more shiny spreads). I don't know if it ever got fixed, but my guess is it didn't and that's why your nature is all funky.
There are a few ways to remedy this:
1). Breed for a shiny of whatever you're going for, making sure you put in the correct ID/SID
2) Catch a new Ditto in your game and use it as the parent
3) I have a Modest Flawless Ditto I can give you if you really don't want to do one of the above.
Send me a VM/PM if you choose option 3, I should be on tomorrow most of the day.
There are a few ways to remedy this:
1). Breed for a shiny of whatever you're going for, making sure you put in the correct ID/SID
2) Catch a new Ditto in your game and use it as the parent
3) I have a Modest Flawless Ditto I can give you if you really don't want to do one of the above.
Send me a VM/PM if you choose option 3, I should be on tomorrow most of the day.
Emphasis on was. It's fixed in 9.94.
Hi, I am trying to catch a Gastly in HG with HP Fire 70. I'm having trouble finding the target frame and I need to know where I went wrong.
I went into "Find Seed by IVs", and plugged in spreads until I got results. I put in Timid 31/6/31/30/31/30, did an open search with frames below 10000, and picked the first result:
4C131778 (seed), 5996 (delay)
I put it into "Seed to Time", and got the date 8/28/2012, time 19:58:50. So now I copy the seed into the main window, check off Method K, set the HP IV equal to 31, and generate results to see which frame it's on. I cannot find the nature or IVs I want, not even in frames about 1000. I've put multiple seeds for Timid 31/6/31/30/31/30 into the main window, but to no avail. I have every piece of info I need except the target frame, which will dictate how many Elm calls I have to make. What am I doing wrong? Should I start over?
Verifying the Seed: I have PikaTimer, so if I wanted to, I could probably hit the seed with no problem and verify it with Elm calls. But I need to know where to go from there to get what I'm looking for.
EDIT: Used RNG Reporter 9.93 Beta
I went into "Find Seed by IVs", and plugged in spreads until I got results. I put in Timid 31/6/31/30/31/30, did an open search with frames below 10000, and picked the first result:
4C131778 (seed), 5996 (delay)
I put it into "Seed to Time", and got the date 8/28/2012, time 19:58:50. So now I copy the seed into the main window, check off Method K, set the HP IV equal to 31, and generate results to see which frame it's on. I cannot find the nature or IVs I want, not even in frames about 1000. I've put multiple seeds for Timid 31/6/31/30/31/30 into the main window, but to no avail. I have every piece of info I need except the target frame, which will dictate how many Elm calls I have to make. What am I doing wrong? Should I start over?
Verifying the Seed: I have PikaTimer, so if I wanted to, I could probably hit the seed with no problem and verify it with Elm calls. But I need to know where to go from there to get what I'm looking for.
EDIT: Used RNG Reporter 9.93 Beta
You need to use a Timid Synch. I added the synch and the frame was on frame 6. I'm using 9.94 Beta.
Okay, did what you said and used 9.94, but the result is on Frame 5. I'm sure that's the one, though, these things tend to differ slightly from person to person it seems.
Thanks :)
EDIT: Okay this would mean that I need a Timid synchronizer at the front of my party, right?
Yep. Eh I was probably off, I was just making sure that the seed worked. The synch can be fainted or whatever, but yeah make sure the encounter slot yields a gastly too.
So I have Pokémon Platinum. I'm trying to get a shiny Buneary, but the traditional method wasn't wielding a sane number of Pokétch taps. I clicked on Time Finder and went to shiny egg then I made sure all the information was correct. Anyway after many tries the coin flipper displayed the correct pattern of 10 assuring me that I hit the seed. Then I tapped the coin flipper and the friendship checker the correct amount of times. Closed the friendship checker. Deposited the parents and went out side and ran around waiting for the parents to lay the egg. Finally they did, I went in front of the day care man saved then grabbed the egg but when it hatched it wasn't jolly, female, or shiny. This happened twice so what did I do wrong? I'm sure all the information is correct...
The only explanations would be that you messed up on your taps or you entered the wrong ID/SID in Time Finder, but it was probably the former. Maybe there could be another thing that went wrong and I just missed it (never done Pt breeding).
Honestly, if you have HGSS breed on there because it's much easier. If you don't... then I'm not sure.
OmegaDonut, I have a suggestion! Maybe in the future you make a 4th egg PID method so if someone was off a few frames they could check how far off they were? I think it would be a useful tool especially for DPP breeding because they have to do a large amount of flips/taps to get their shiny egg and it's hard to keep count (I could never pull off DPP shiny breeding unless the taps/flips were super low x.x).
Hey everyone! I'm one of the many who've recently started to attempt to RNG, and I've run into a bit of a problem. I've actually run into a few along the way, but researching on my own and numerous trial and errors eventually solved those. This one I'm not so sure on. If you guys could help me out, I'd very much appreciate the knowledge.
Firstly, I'm trying to hatch a Scyther with specific IVs, and I'm doing so in Platinum. I've already gone through the motions of RNGing it to set up the correct nature, ability, gender, and whether I want it shiny or not. Both of the parents (two Scythers that are from the same language game: English) have 31 IVs across the board, just to make my RNGing life easier. No everstones are being held. My trainer is currently saved standing next to the day care man, prepared to take the egg.
Now, I've gone through the calibrations thoroughly, found the seed, date, and delay I want... but here's my problem:
During the calibration phrase, I came up with these usual "stats" for myself:
Delay
598-608
Seconds
14
Frame
4
The time I've chosen to hatch this Scyther on:
Date
02/14/2012
Time
03:00:12
Delay
603
Frame
4
This SHOULD give me these stats:
31/B/A/27/31/B
I was trying to do this a few weeks ago, but I just couldn't seem to get it. I realized that while searching the flips to see where I was landing, that even though I might occasionally (with some difficulty) land on the delay I needed (the time is never an issue), I always landed on a single frame before the frame required. Without looking too much up, I thought up a cheap solution. I chose a seed with a frame a single step back to compensate. This... somehow... did not help. Every time I attempted it on this new seed, I STILL landed on a frame prior to even that. As an example, if I chose a seed with a frame of 3, I always landed on 2. If I chose a seed with a frame of 5, I always landed on 4.
I tried recalibrating myself to see if that would help - just in case - , but I was given the same results.
I asked someone about it, but they said that frames can be silly sometimes, so to just "keep trying". I started up again today and am having the exact same problem, so it seems like too much of a coincidence. I've tried silly things as a sort of last resort such as waiting for a split second before speaking to the daycare man, because I've heard about NPCs advancing the frame by one (I don't know enough about this specifically to say accurately, I know), and I know that there's that ridiculous Buneary running around constantly below me... But really, I can't seem to find the information on my own (yes, I've read up extensively on the guides).
I know that going back a page in the journal to read a page including the capture or defeat of a Pokemon can advance the frame by 2, but if I do this, it will be one over (considering I seem to always be a single frame behind).
Does anyone have any idea why this might be happening, and how I could rectify it? It's driving me nuts... Thanks in advance.
Firstly, I'm trying to hatch a Scyther with specific IVs, and I'm doing so in Platinum. I've already gone through the motions of RNGing it to set up the correct nature, ability, gender, and whether I want it shiny or not. Both of the parents (two Scythers that are from the same language game: English) have 31 IVs across the board, just to make my RNGing life easier. No everstones are being held. My trainer is currently saved standing next to the day care man, prepared to take the egg.
Now, I've gone through the calibrations thoroughly, found the seed, date, and delay I want... but here's my problem:
During the calibration phrase, I came up with these usual "stats" for myself:
Delay
598-608
Seconds
14
Frame
4
The time I've chosen to hatch this Scyther on:
Date
02/14/2012
Time
03:00:12
Delay
603
Frame
4
This SHOULD give me these stats:
31/B/A/27/31/B
I was trying to do this a few weeks ago, but I just couldn't seem to get it. I realized that while searching the flips to see where I was landing, that even though I might occasionally (with some difficulty) land on the delay I needed (the time is never an issue), I always landed on a single frame before the frame required. Without looking too much up, I thought up a cheap solution. I chose a seed with a frame a single step back to compensate. This... somehow... did not help. Every time I attempted it on this new seed, I STILL landed on a frame prior to even that. As an example, if I chose a seed with a frame of 3, I always landed on 2. If I chose a seed with a frame of 5, I always landed on 4.
I tried recalibrating myself to see if that would help - just in case - , but I was given the same results.
I asked someone about it, but they said that frames can be silly sometimes, so to just "keep trying". I started up again today and am having the exact same problem, so it seems like too much of a coincidence. I've tried silly things as a sort of last resort such as waiting for a split second before speaking to the daycare man, because I've heard about NPCs advancing the frame by one (I don't know enough about this specifically to say accurately, I know), and I know that there's that ridiculous Buneary running around constantly below me... But really, I can't seem to find the information on my own (yes, I've read up extensively on the guides).
I know that going back a page in the journal to read a page including the capture or defeat of a Pokemon can advance the frame by 2, but if I do this, it will be one over (considering I seem to always be a single frame behind).
Does anyone have any idea why this might be happening, and how I could rectify it? It's driving me nuts... Thanks in advance.
How are you confirming your frames? Are you simply calculating adjacent frames, right clicking on your target seed in time finder and clicking calculate adjacent frames and then confirming via coin flips. If so you may of hit your frame multiple times as no matter what frame your on the results of the coin flips will be the same for that seed whether you hit frame 3 or 300. The only way to confirm your frame is by hatching said egg and checking its IV's against the adjacent frames you generated.
If this not what your doing and you are in fact checking the IV's of the egg every time and are finding that you are always a frame below(highly unlikely), then simply walk around and resave in front of the Daycare man. You will also probably have to recalibrate as the NPC's will now be moving differently.
I suspect its just the coin flip thing though, as it only gives you the first result that appears, so if you put in a frame range of 3-5 then it will always say you hit frame 3 regardless of what you hit.
As a side note, don't flip until after you've received your egg(to confirm you hit your delay) as you don't want the NPC's shooting you way by.
Hope this helps and GL getting that Scyther.
If this not what your doing and you are in fact checking the IV's of the egg every time and are finding that you are always a frame below(highly unlikely), then simply walk around and resave in front of the Daycare man. You will also probably have to recalibrate as the NPC's will now be moving differently.
I suspect its just the coin flip thing though, as it only gives you the first result that appears, so if you put in a frame range of 3-5 then it will always say you hit frame 3 regardless of what you hit.
As a side note, don't flip until after you've received your egg(to confirm you hit your delay) as you don't want the NPC's shooting you way by.
Hope this helps and GL getting that Scyther.
Oi vey! Yeah, I've been confirming only with the coin flips. I was going to hatch and double-check (before getting excited, heh) once the RNG Reporter told me that I'd hit all that I needed, which is why I waited. I guess this was one of those silly oversights that's difficult because it was staring me in the face. When comparing adjacent seeds, I'd been entering -1/+1 for the frame, so... that would explain why it would highlight 3 for a target of 4, 4 for a target of 5, etc....
Super-fantabulous-thanks for the assistance and luck! It's good knowing I'm closer than I thought I was, figuratively and not, haha.
It's not likely that I miss tapped. There was only 11 additional coin flips and 1 happiness double tap. I tried it twice so I highly doubt I messed up. I do have SoulsSilver, but I thought I heard somewhere that DPPt was easier... Well I'll try it.
To be frank you either heard wrong or someone was trolling you. HG/SS breeds are easier by FAR.
Honey trees don't work like that. Try reading Wild Eep's post if you haven't already, he explains how it works. http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1822052&postcount=11
I calculated my delay range for Soulsilver (492-500). Then I put in the second and date and all. It came up with only one seed with a delay of 493. I'm pretty sure your delay is locked to only output even/odd numbers not both. So I tweaked what I input slightly still 493 I did that 5 more times and it was still 493. I then changed the delay range from 400-500 just to see what would happen, and it gave out one more delay time of 439. Uh, what's going on? More importantly how do I fix it. I'm using a DS lite. My Id is 62884, my SID is 46201 and I have Pokémon Emerald in the dual slot.
Are you talking about the delay range in the Time Finder? You're supposed to put in the min/max delay you're willing to hit, not your calibrated delay range. The calibrated delay goes into your timer!
Notice how 493 is in between 492 and 500. That's why it found that seed. Then once you increased the delay range, it found a seed with a delay of 439. The reason it didn't find that seed before is because 439 is not between 492 and 500.
I don't know what a calibrated delay is, and I can hit the seed without a timer. I just need a clock. I understand the min/max delay. My problem is none of the delays are even numbers! I'm confused so I'll say exactly what I did. I went in the tall grass outside of mt silver. restarted a few times to catch some Pokémon to calculate my delay. My range was 492-50. I clicked on time finder and went to shiny egg I typed in all the data including the 492-500, and it only gave me a delay of 493. The reason I expanded it is because I was curious if it was somehow glitching and only showing 493, which it wasn't.
I'm not sure I can get a positive answer to my question, but in the slight chance I can get one, I'll go ahead and ask it:
Is there a way to force Ruby and Sapphire's berry glitch (or the drying of the battery) in order to be able to abuse its RNG?
BTW, what's RS's seed when the battery is dead?
Is there a way to force Ruby and Sapphire's berry glitch (or the drying of the battery) in order to be able to abuse its RNG?
BTW, what's RS's seed when the battery is dead?
That's something we never tested. Mostly because you have to wait over a year for the glitch to activate.
5A0
Presumably there are no other matching spreads in that delay range.