Official MLB 2012 Season Thread

He still slows down and offers only decent value (3ish WAR). Ceiling is at around 4ish WAR. (cant take a walk mannnn)

Not to be douchy at all, small sample sizes due produce great WOAH REALLY results.

Remember the Detroit guy in '06? cant remember who it is aaaahhhh, like 9 homers in 13 games? That was my favorite small sample size

edit - just noticed it was in response kinda to the Pirates thing too, WHATEVER. NOT GONNA EDIT THE REST :P
 
St Louis is indeed on fire, but with that being said, the Cubs are still going to win the world series.

Even Ozzie can't stop talking about how much he admires the Cubs shortstop Fidel Castro.
 
Ellsbury out indefinitely, sources say dislocated shoulder

goodbye season, we hardly knew ye

;_;

edit: jr7 normally i would disagree with you but i mean i can't at all. the sox should have: signed beltre, traded for gonzalez, flipped youk for whoever, etc etc etc etc etc. the only person on the sox im going to go out of my way for to watch games is lester, because he pitched two great games so far.
 
tennisace this season was gone long before the injury to Ellsbury. I'd say it was over right around the time they signed Carl Crawford, the biggest bitch in baseball. Then they got rid of Francona and Papelbon, the heart and soul of the team, respectively. I struggle to even like this Red Sox team let alone root for them and watch their games. They replaced a bunch of high-energy positive influences with overpaid loudmouth crybabies, now they're filling the gaps with cheap nobodies in the bullpen and it's showing already.

Also congrats to Alex Rodriguez for hitting home run number 630* in his career

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edit: jr7 normally i would disagree with you but i mean i can't at all. the sox should have: signed beltre, traded for gonzalez, flipped youk for whoever, etc etc etc etc etc.

I don't want to get into what ifs and say I'm mad because they could have done something else, I'm just annoyed at what they've actually done. They basically dismantled their team for no reason, somehow kept the payroll insanely high, and now expect fans to believe things will be ok as if we forgot our old curse.
 
Its funny the New York Mets are now 6-2 in 8 games to start the season. Last year they were 5-13 in 18 games to start the season. I know its early but this teams starting rotation is massively underrated when healthy. Plus Wrights quick return from that pinky injury has stabilized the middle of that lineup again. Hit a 425 foot homerun on the first pitch he saw today back from that injury.
 
The new "Lynn"sation as Lance Lynn has been very impressive as Chris Carpenter's replacement these past 2 games.
 
So the Mets let one slip away today as they had a 2-1 lead heading into the bottom of the 7th and after a few defensive blunders, the flood gates opened. This team is defensively challenged as Lucas Duda had a late jump on a ball hit out to right letting it fall in for a base hit. A throwing error by Ruben Tejada at short and a wild pitch which moved the runners from 1st and 2nd to 2nd and 3rd also cost the Mets a run. Terrible game to lose as they were on the verge of sweeping the Phillies in Philadelphia.
 
So the Mets let one slip away today as they had a 2-1 lead heading into the bottom of the 7th and after a few defensive blunders, the flood gates opened. This team is defensively challenged as Lucas Duda had a late jump on a ball hit out to right letting it fall in for a base hit. A throwing error by Ruben Tejada at short and a wild pitch which moved the runners from 1st and 2nd to 2nd and 3rd also cost the Mets a run. Terrible game to lose as they were on the verge of sweeping the Phillies in Philadelphia.

Don't worry about it. Nothing will be as good as sweeping Phillies in 27 scoreless innings.
 
Today is the perfect day for my dad to get back from America with my Rangers merchandise - right as we are beating up the Red Sox like they were a AAA team (really ESPN, you think the Angels are gonna beat us this year? Pfft!)

Ps I have faith Darvish will turn out well so here's hoping his jersey isn't a bad investment!

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Fucking Lexas, how are they so good? :P

It's always a nice feeling sporting a jersey, just wish my old Halladay one wasn't a child's size..
 
Fucking Lexas, how are they so good? :P

It's always a nice feeling sporting a jersey, just wish my old Halladay one wasn't a child's size..

Short answer, arguably the best GM in all of baseball :).

Haha maybe it's time to invest in a new jersey moi?
 
Don't worry about it. Nothing will be as good as sweeping Phillies in 27 scoreless innings.

Yeah. Well the Phillies are a prime example of a team that has a bunch of injuries in their lineup and is struggling to score runs for their starters who are actually giving them chances to win. They will most likely go on an absolute tear when they get Utley and Howard back as they still have a really good starting rotation and bullpen.
 
Yeah. Well the Phillies are a prime example of a team that has a bunch of injuries in their lineup and is struggling to score runs for their starters who are actually giving them chances to win. They will most likely go on an absolute tear when they get Utley and Howard back as they still have a really good starting rotation and bullpen.

So I guess Mets, for the last 4 years or so, have not had more than 6+ players injured almost through the regular season, hm? Mets always had a decent starting rotation before and after Oliver Perez ridiculously awful ass left. They are much stronger, now. The Mets bullpen isn't as good and never has been for the recent years. The Mets have had tons of injuries. I don't recall injuries in June of 2010 for the Phillies. The Mets were the ones hurt, but I guess it was just luck that they swept. Mets now have quality players, an not some wasted slots in their lineup an bullpen. I hope they do better than last year.
 
So I guess Mets, for the last 4 years or so, have not had more than 6+ players injured almost through the regular season, hm? Mets always had a decent starting rotation before and after Oliver Perez ridiculously awful ass left. They are much stronger, now. The Mets bullpen isn't as good and never has been for the recent years. The Mets have had tons of injuries. I don't recall injuries in June of 2010 for the Phillies. The Mets were the ones hurt, but I guess it was just luck that they swept. Mets now have quality players, an not some wasted slots in their lineup an bullpen. I hope they do better than last year.

June 2010, all I can say is anything can happen in a 3 game series but when its all said and done, the Phillies have more talent on their team to have a winning record for 162 games than the Mets do. The Phillies at full strength are quite powerful and once they get that lineup healthy they will go on a tear. I just wanted the Mets to take advantage of them injured early in the season with a sweep of them in Philadelphia. Sports usually works like that. Players get injured, they come back at the right time, and their team goes on a tear or a postseason run. The Mets have been a snake bitten franchise with the injury bug for about 3 years now. Murphy and Davis went down last season, Wright had a back problem, Santana needed surgery, Beltran never played at full strength. You can mix that with some awful free agent signings like Perez, Bay, Castillo. The only thing I can really say positive about this team is that I like Terry Collins and for some reason all the past talk here in New York about the Mets having a bad farm system seems to have been untrue. Ruben Tejada, Lucas Duda, Daniel Murphey, Jon Niese, Ike Davis. All have contributed to this team since they have been up. I would put Mike Pelfrey in there but he has yet to prove he belongs in this rotation as a consistently good starter.
 
June 2010, all I can say is anything can happen in a 3 game series but when its all said and done, the Phillies have more talent on their team to have a winning record for 162 games than the Mets do. The Phillies at full strength are quite powerful and once they get that lineup healthy they will go on a tear. I just wanted the Mets to take advantage of them injured early in the season with a sweep of them in Philadelphia. Sports usually works like that. Players get injured, they come back at the right time, and their team goes on a tear or a postseason run. The Mets have been a snake bitten franchise with the injury bug for about 3 years now. Murphy and Davis went down last season, Wright had a back problem, Santana needed surgery, Beltran never played at full strength. You can mix that with some awful free agent signings like Perez, Bay, Castillo. The only thing I can really say positive about this team is that I like Terry Collins and for some reason all the past talk here in New York about the Mets having a bad farm system seems to have been untrue. Ruben Tejada, Lucas Duda, Daniel Murphey, Jon Niese, Ike Davis. All have contributed to this team since they have been up. I would put Mike Pelfrey in there but he has yet to prove he belongs in this rotation as a consistently good starter.

the Mets problem is that they don't (and didn't) have IMPACT young players when starters go down. Phillies are now the same way, given how Amaro gutted their once top tier farm system (although he has a lot to show for return on investment there). Duda, Murphy, and Davis are nice pieces (if the former two don't give back all of their offensive value on the defensive end...which is a big if) but still just average players. also, in the Mets case, the medical staff's competency has been called into question more than a few times (letting Ryan Church fly cross country with a concussion, having Jose Reyes bat only from the right side with an injured oblique, not forcing Wright out with a BROKEN BACK, and the misdiagnosis on Davis's ankle, et cetera).

unless you're the 2005 White Sox, you don't win anything with average players. Harvey and Wheeler are the closest thing to impact, ready nowish talent that the Mets system has. everyone else in their farm is either too far away or is seriously flawed. that being said, i laugh when i see "analysts" predicting the Mets for 100+ losses. it is just lazy reporting and taking the Mets' owners' off-field issues (Madoff trial) and translating it to team failure. they aren't gonna make the playoffs or win 90 games, but 75-80 is not out of the question.

as for the whole NL East, the Phillies are probably still the favorites, but they have a massive beta. if one of their starters (Lee, Halladay, or Hamels) needs to miss an extended period of time, they're screwed. the lineup is old and can't score and their relief pitching is dubious at best, especially considering how Charlie Manuel uses his bullpen. every team in the East has serious flaws -- the Marlins can't play defense, the Nationals don't have much of a rotation outside of Strasburg (and the bullpen is a mess), the Mets don't have a pitching staff (Dickey and Niese are nice but Santana's arm is made of hamburger helper and Gee and Pelfrey are #6 starters), and the Braves (sss start ignored) don't have much of an offense.
 
the Nationals don't have much of a rotation outside of Strasburg (and the bullpen is a mess),

uh, we were 7th last year in ERA, WITHOUT Strasburg for all but 2 games, our starters have an ERA of 1.65 while our team ERA is 2.54, and this is without having a real closer...so can i conclude you don't know what you're talking about?

If anything, it's our lineup that's problematic - Werth and Laroche have been mostly okay, but Zimmerman has been pretty mediocre, though his intangibles are always at least as important as his production. And we don't really have much power.
 
uh, we were 7th last year in ERA, WITHOUT Strasburg for all but 2 games, our starters have an ERA of 1.65 while our team ERA is 2.54, and this is without having a real closer...so can i conclude you don't know what you're talking about?

lol, SSS. the Nationals have a #1 in Strasburg and a good #3 in Gio Gonzalez if he doesn't walk the ballpark in a given start. Jordan Zimmermann is overrated, Edwin Jackson is a #4, and who do you have left? Ross Detwiler? Tom Gorzelanny? let's also not forget Strasburg is on a hard innings cap, as well. the Nats aren't going anywhere with that and the rest of their starters.

and their team era? lol, thus far the Nats have played 7 of their 14 games against the Cubs and Astros, the two consensus worst teams in the NL (and by far the worst offenses as well). they've had a cakewalk schedule.
 
the Mets problem is that they don't (and didn't) have IMPACT young players when starters go down. Phillies are now the same way, given how Amaro gutted their once top tier farm system (although he has a lot to show for return on investment there). Duda, Murphy, and Davis are nice pieces (if the former two don't give back all of their offensive value on the defensive end...which is a big if) but still just average players. also, in the Mets case, the medical staff's competency has been called into question more than a few times (letting Ryan Church fly cross country with a concussion, having Jose Reyes bat only from the right side with an injured oblique, not forcing Wright out with a BROKEN BACK, and the misdiagnosis on Davis's ankle, et cetera).

unless you're the 2005 White Sox, you don't win anything with average players. Harvey and Wheeler are the closest thing to impact, ready nowish talent that the Mets system has. everyone else in their farm is either too far away or is seriously flawed. that being said, i laugh when i see "analysts" predicting the Mets for 100+ losses. it is just lazy reporting and taking the Mets' owners' off-field issues (Madoff trial) and translating it to team failure. they aren't gonna make the playoffs or win 90 games, but 75-80 is not out of the question.

as for the whole NL East, the Phillies are probably still the favorites, but they have a massive beta. if one of their starters (Lee, Halladay, or Hamels) needs to miss an extended period of time, they're screwed. the lineup is old and can't score and their relief pitching is dubious at best, especially considering how Charlie Manuel uses his bullpen. every team in the East has serious flaws -- the Marlins can't play defense, the Nationals don't have much of a rotation outside of Strasburg (and the bullpen is a mess), the Mets don't have a pitching staff (Dickey and Niese are nice but Santana's arm is made of hamburger helper and Gee and Pelfrey are #6 starters), and the Braves (sss start ignored) don't have much of an offense.

The Mets have a habit of flying people around when they shouldn't. A lot of fans here in New York are still pissed at how they handled Willie Randolph flying him all the way to Anaheim just to fire him. Its a big if but I hope this starting rotation can stay healthy because I really think its decent. Dickey actually had a string of about 14 quality starts before that start in Atlanta a few nights ago, Gee pitched well last year and has had some quality starts this year, and Niese actually pitched well again tonight against the Giants. Pelfrey is the only one that scares me.
 
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