Pokémon Black 2 and White 2 (DS, June in JP, Fall in EU/NA/AU) - Updated May 12th

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These new vids also confirmed that the Kami's new forms has other cries, just like Shaymin. And the sprites were godlike.
 
Am I the only one who thought that one water gym leader was so cool looking? Seriously, what a bro.

also pkmn are cool i guess
 
3:57 We say N presumably helping the player against Ghetsis. Then you also see Zekrom facing Kyurem. So it really is a fusion? Interesting.
 
We don't know anything about that right now. I highly doubt it's a fusion, rather Kyurem taking Zekrom/Reshiram's power or energy, or something along those lines instead.

@Ray Jay I think many of us have already given our opinions on Shizui since he was revealed early last month or something. x) Though I think he's cool too.
 
Yeah I know Landorus gets Earth Power, but remember it's a Special Move. While his new forme is meant to gain Attack, him using Earth Power could imply Sheer Force(of which Earth Power gains a boost from). Coupled with Tornadus not having words pop implying Prankster; these formes seem to have their Hidden Abilities.
 
Yeah I know Landorus gets Earth Power, but remember it's a Special Move. While his new forme is meant to gain Attack, him using Earth Power could imply Sheer Force(of which Earth Power gains a boost from). Coupled with Tornadus not having words pop implying Prankster; these formes seem to have their Hidden Abilities.

Or it could imply that Landorus doesn't suddenly lose attacks from switching formes?

Seriously overanalyzing it guys.
 
And the bit with the Kami Trio's alt forms tells us bupkiss all, except for the fact they're not actually rehashing Articuno's sprite for Tornadus' beast forme (take that haters!). All we know is that Tornadus doesn't have an ability that gives a pop-up when it hits the field and that they come out of dream balls. While that does imply defiant (fuck), we don't know for sure yet...

We actually don't even know THAT for sure. The scene with Southern Phoenix Tornadus in BW2 cuts to Eastern Dragon Thundurus attacking before the ability even has a chance to show up. Shouldn't the camera center again before the ability would show up (unless the camera programming changed)?

Yeah I know Landorus gets Earth Power, but remember it's a Special Move. While his new forme is meant to gain Attack, him using Earth Power could imply Sheer Force(of which Earth Power gains a boost from). Coupled with Tornadus not having words pop implying Prankster; these formes seem to have their Hidden Abilities.

I haven't battled in a while, but I have been trying to catch a Tornadus in Black lately. And I don't recall Prankster EVER having a message pop up at the Pokemon's entrance. Status moves just go first. No message.

Also, Western Tiger Landorus could've just been using Earth Power because it can, not for a specific reason. I don't really see how Dragon Thundurus using Discharge relates to his potential Defiant ability.

All this said, I am thinking they'll have their Dream World / Radar abilities from Phoenix Tornadus coming from a Dream Ball. I just think people are overanalyzing.

EDIT: One more thing. For the record, if THESE were the forms that Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus took on first, I probably wouldn't hate them as much as I do. The beasts actually look kind of cool, a massive imporvement over the ugly-looking bodybuilder Lakitus.
 
RedMeowth, I'm just curious, but where did you get the names for the formes? I can't seem to find any source that lists them with those names (Eastern Dragon, Western Tiger, Southern Phoenix).
 
RedMeowth, I'm just curious, but where did you get the names for the formes? I can't seem to find any source that lists them with those names (Eastern Dragon, Western Tiger, Southern Phoenix).

They don't exist, they're just nicknames (and really poor ones).
Only even remotely official name is Incarnation forms and whatever the original forms are now called.

Edit: Yeah I'm a bit off. Sacred Beast form is correct woops.
Edit 2: Or both? Haven't checked in a while.
 
RedMeowth, I'm just curious, but where did you get the names for the formes? I can't seem to find any source that lists them with those names (Eastern Dragon, Western Tiger, Southern Phoenix).

They aren't official names as far as I know. I was talking with some friends about the new forms once, and one of them noted that the Sacred Beast forms of the Kami Trio were similar to the heavenly creatures of Wu Xing. Specifically, he related Tornadus to the Vermilion Bird (the heavenly creature of the South, representing Fire), Thundurus to the Azure Dragon (East / Wood), and Landorus to the Yellow Qilin (Center / Earth). I agreed with him on the first two, but I thought Landorus more resembled a Tiger, which is the heavenly creature of the West (he's the Metal beast if you're curious). They aren't official names, but it is an interesting theory as to why they are shaped as they are.

However, while I think it's cool that they used the heavenly creatures for Pokemon (they were used before for the Four Sovereigns in Digimon Tamers), I do think it's a bit off-putting to have these genies be the sacred beasts. Partly because I don't like the Incarnation Forms of these three, and partly because there are only three of them. Who's supposed to be our Black Tortoise of the North? :(
 
I don't really agree with the Wu Xing beasts idea. Just that their typings don't sound right for it. If Landorus was in fact the Tiger, he'd be Steel, and Tornadus would be Fire, and Thundurus would be Grass or something. Just my 2 cents.

Also, didn't they already do this based on the Base 100 Stat Pixies? Celebi -> Wood, Victini -> Fire, Jirachi -> Metal, Manaphy -> Water and I'm guessing Gen 6 comes with an Earth one. Or you could call Mew the Earth one.
 
I don't really agree with the Wu Xing beasts idea. Just that their typings don't sound right for it. If Landorus was in fact the Tiger, he'd be Steel, and Tornadus would be Fire, and Thundurus would be Grass or something. Just my 2 cents.

Also, didn't they already do this based on the Base 100 Stat Pixies? Celebi -> Wood, Victini -> Fire, Jirachi -> Metal, Manaphy -> Water and I'm guessing Gen 6 comes with an Earth one. Or you could call Mew the Earth one.

There's nothing that really links the 600 base staters to them, though.
Especially since many, many event legends are 600 base
 
I really like the back sprites for the Sacred Beast formes, especially Landorus's. It seems like the Dream Radar might be a bit annoying, the "capture gauge" filled up super slowly. I really doubt that every Pokemon will transfer at level 60 as Serebii is reporting--it will probably change depending on the Pokemon.

Do you guys think Dream Radar will be the only way to get 5th generation DW Pokemon or do you predict that the DW update will add them as well?
 
It would kinda make sense is some way that they were exclusive to the Dream Radar, but I guess that wouldn't be too fair for those who don't have a 3DS.

The name does ring a bell, and making that "game" just for those formes would be a waste IMO. Another possibility alongside Gen 5 mons are legendaries like the Regis, the birds (Lightningrod Zapdos anyone?), or any other good one (don't saying the Regis' DW abilities are good, except if Regirock gets SR with Sturdy).

Also, has someone else been wondering what the new DW area "Cool Hole" will bring to the table? Thick Fat Swinub = Thick Fat Mamoswine? Cursed Body Froslass (seeing as hail is banned in UU making Snow Cloak useless)? It is related to BW2 guys.
 
Well it's been shown that the dream radar won't be just for the genie formes, earlier when the game was announced an image of a Ralts captured using the radar was released found here http://www.serebii.net/dreamradar/pics.shtml#, so there's bound to be more Pokemon available for capture. Would be nice to have the DW legendaries released and the radar seems like a good way to do it (here's hoping for for regen Ho-OH...)
 
Where will be the best place to import one of these games (to the US) from? I've never imported a game before, so I need a site that I can trust to send me a genuine cart.
 
Well, it seems new has leaked mentioning Keldeo's "usual forme." Looks like Keldeo might be getting a new form. What would that new forme be like?
 
Well, it seems new has leaked mentioning Keldeo's "usual forme." Looks like Keldeo might be getting a new form. What would that new forme be like?

Maybe he'll become more bi-pedal like Lucario and his horn will become a sword like Samurott's swordd...I dunno...
 
Well, it seems new has leaked mentioning Keldeo's "usual forme." Looks like Keldeo might be getting a new form. What would that new forme be like?
Hopefully it will simply be more mature-looking, closer to his brethren instead of that My Little Pony look.

So what's with that solar sailboat in the new trailer on the Pokemon website? Are Team Plasma really pirates?
 
Hopefully it will simply be more mature-looking, closer to his brethren instead of that My Little Pony look.

So what's with that solar sailboat in the new trailer on the Pokemon website? Are Team Plasma really pirates?

Keldeo has a pirate hat, maybe they're related to Keldeo or something. hmmmm.
 
Where will be the best place to import one of these games (to the US) from? I've never imported a game before, so I need a site that I can trust to send me a genuine cart.

playasia.com was timely and trustworthy for me for both JPN HG and JPN Black.

Also, lol@ TPCi being fair about people not having a 3DS. They release exclusive stuff on wifi all the time and not everyone has wifi.
 
Well, it seems new has leaked mentioning Keldeo's "usual forme." Looks like Keldeo might be getting a new form. What would that new forme be like?

Well if the one we have now is the "usual forme", the other will of course be the "unusual forme". I'm thinking seven horns, a single leg, and one cycloptic eye.
 
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