Pokémon XY General Discussion

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With the shocking revelation of a name over ten letters (See the french name of Pancham) how do you think this will affect... Hah, affect anything important, that's funny.

But still, think about it. Feraligatr to Feraligator.

Yeah, they can finally write FeraligatOr and VictreebelL correctly :p (well, hopefully).

I'm not sure if the 10 characters limit still applies to the French games tbh. The French language is usually longer than English.
 
With the shocking revelation of a name over ten letters (See the french name of Pancham) how do you think this will affect... Hah, affect anything important, that's funny.

But still, think about it. Feraligatr to Feraligator.

Yeah, they can finally write FeraligatOr and VictreebelL correctly :p (well, hopefully).

I'm not sure if the 10 characters limit still applies to the French games tbh. The French language is usually longer than English.

No fuck that
Feraligatr's name is perfect
If I see an o in his name in the official game I'll cry
 
No fuck that
Feraligatr's name is perfect
If I see an o in his name in the official game I'll cry

How can this name be perfect when one letter is missing because of the character limit :o ? Feraligator is the real name that Game Freak couldn't set for technical reason, giving the "o" back would fix a mistake.
 
You make it sound like an O was taken away at some point. There never was one to "give back". Whatever they intended, the official name has always been Feraligatr. Had they retconned it in the very next generation, I wouldn't mind so much, but after all this time they should leave it as-is.
 
I hope some forgotten Pokemon like Flareon get some decent Stab and covage moves that have not a huge side effect and of course not Fire/Fighting Starter.

If they consider doing a new typ, then be it. Hopefully they don't make 100 new Pokemon half of which are legendaries each with a new form.
 
i don't think they'll retcon a name. it might've been initially intended to be that, but it doesn't really improve anything, and will just confuse people, i think.

I don't really see what's confusing about it. No one is going to see "Feraligator" and think it's a new Pokemon, an evolution, a form, or whatever. I suspect the majority of people (casual players) wouldn't even notice the change anyway. Same with Victreebel.
 
not that they'll think it's a new pokemon, but just confusion/controversy regarding the true, canon name. there's also no need to change it.

besides, feraligatr looks cool and stylised - and victreebel still works. i never even noticed that there was a "problem" with it until someone pointed it out.

THANKS FOR GETTING SMOGON BACK OH GOOD OVERLORD CHAOS + OTHERS <3

i didn't go nuts or anything but it sucked not having it around. good job, guys. send those troopers some drinks.
 
Is Victreebel even wrong? I thought it was bel as in 'beautiful'.

This is from http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Victreebel_(Pokémon)

Victreebel seems to be a combination of victory (corrupted to make a pun on tree) and bell (referring to its bell-like shape). The maximum number of characters possible to make up a Pokémon's name is ten, and this is likely the reason for the misspelling of bell as bel.

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Feraligatr

Feraligatr is a combination of feral and alligator. It may also derive from ferocious. The shortening of "gator" into gatr is a result of the ten-character limit on English Pokémon names.
 
Feraligatr and Victreebel are good names, and shouldn't be changed if the character limit was raised. DynamicPunch, on the other hand... Both from the Japanese name, and the move animation, it should be clear that the intention was to call it "Dynamite Punch" from the start. Many of us non-English speakers didn't even notice it didn't say "Dynamite" for several years after first seeing the move.
 
Feraligatr and Victreebel are good names, and shouldn't be changed if the character limit was raised. DynamicPunch, on the other hand... Both from the Japanese name, and the move animation, it should be clear that the intention was to call it "Dynamite Punch" from the start. Many of us non-English speakers didn't even notice it didn't say "Dynamite" for several years after first seeing the move.
I like how the first time we see DynamicPunch, it's being used in a movie, where the attack animations are always beautiful. While I personally believe that they wouldn't want to make too many references to explosives in the franchise for cultural sensitivity reasons, it's simply always been called DynamicPunch and there isn't any point to changing the title to anything, except maybe adding a space between "dynamic" and "punch" if a potential new increased character limit would allow it. Plus, if you've watched enough Naruto, you'd know there's nothing wrong with calling an explosive attack "dynamic" :P

also,
holy shit, I thought I messed something up bad when I couldn't get online for a couple of days, I thought my IP address was blocked or something personal. Thank god they fixed whatever crashed, the maintenance crew deserves a big piece of cake/sugary item of their choice for a job well done.
 
I like how the first time we see DynamicPunch, it's being used in a movie, where the attack animations are always beautiful. While I personally believe that they wouldn't want to make too many references to explosives in the franchise for cultural sensitivity reasons, it's simply always been called DynamicPunch and there isn't any point to changing the title to anything, except maybe adding a space between "dynamic" and "punch" if a potential new increased character limit would allow it. Plus, if you've watched enough Naruto, you'd know there's nothing wrong with calling an explosive attack "dynamic" :P

Even though I prefer "Dynamite punch", I don't think it's a good idea to change it, it changes the meaning of the name so people may think it's a different moves.

In the case of Feraligator and Victreebell, adding the missing letter would simply fix a typo, people would barely notice it because the brain automatically solves this kind of mistakes.

Talking about mistakes, what about renaming "Faint attack" into "Feint attack", after all, when you attack, it's more useful to feint than to faint.
 
Talking about mistakes, what about renaming "Faint attack" into "Feint attack", after all, when you attack, it's more useful to feint than to faint.

I don't think they'll fix words like that because they've had the technology to do that all along but just haven't. The others make sense due to the restriction (although I prefer them as they're named now purely because back then I thought GF was just being creative with names) in characters whereas there's no real reason to change this now when they could've any other generation. It might make more sense that way but there's no reason to change that suddenly unfortunately.
 
hang on... it's meant to be feint attack?

ouo

well, darn.

that said, they do have the move 'feint,' so renaming it 'feint attack' might cause some confusion among the fans...
 
Alrighty to get back on topic...

It seems we've got a week till the next Nintendo Direct, as well as about a week till CoroCoromay be leaked. The news has been a bit dry these past few weeks, however, with E3 right around the corner, as well as ND and CoroCoro, it seems likely if not inevitable that we will get some new information.

If they were to release new content what do y'all think it'd be?

I think if they had a new type the 11th or so would be a perfect time to reveal it, however, I don't see them actually releasing too many new Pokemon, seeing as they may want to save most of the surprises for release.
 
While Feint Attack makes a hell of a lot more sense, I believe the attack description says that it pretends to faint. Then sucker punches them. Although it isn't the move Sucker Punch, which actually involves ambushing as they prepare to attack. As you can see from this mess, Dark type is a tricksy type, indeed.

And personally I think Victreebel is much better than some blasphemous Victreebell. It has connotations of beauty to it, and to force it to conform to its evo line's much more mundane "bell" theme would be to crush the beauty and creativity that has grown out of this restriction.

In plain English, I prefer the name Victreebel anyway and would prefer if they kept it for nostalgia's sake if nothing else.

Edit: Oh, yeah, we should probably go back to the topic.

...what was the topic again? And I kind of like the current way the thread is going. It's so sedate. There's no posts like:
"YOU'RE WRONG! Sylveon is clearly BUG! Isn't it obvious that its colouring is a reference to the Greater Smaller African Tree Ant?!"
None of us want that.
 
I know we should be on topic, and i don't know how on topic this is, but I want to post my predictions for the next corocoro:
I bet we will see 4 pokemon:
1. The early rodent or special (special as in purrloin, shinx, etc)
2. An bug-type
3. A fully evolved badass looking pokemon
4. Either a pokemon which changes based on some in game event which we will then learn about (such as Sawsbuck and weather) or an HM user
 
I know we should be on topic, and i don't know how on topic this is, but I want to post my predictions for the next corocoro:
I bet we will see 4 pokemon:
1. The early rodent or special (special as in purrloin, shinx, etc)
2. An bug-type
3. A fully evolved badass looking pokemon
4. Either a pokemon which changes based on some in game event which we will then learn about (such as Sawsbuck and weather) or an HM user

I agree...

Well, I think that Fletchling WILL evolve. (-ling as in hatchling) Also, some 1-5 generation Pokémon is getting an evo. (Every time Eevee has gotten a new evo, someone else does.)
Finally, there has to be a new battle mechanic.
All this and more (probably) in X and Y!
 
Looking at the last two generations of leaks, I think we're going to see five or six Pokémon, one of which will be either the new early-route vermin or the newest Pikaclone, and another may be an evolutionary relative to an old Pokémon. We may also see the professor and get a few overworld screenshots. I also looked into it, and Reshiram and Zekrom's type and species were revealed in the June before BW was released. If they plan on telling us more about Xerneas and Yveltal, it will likely be in July, three months before the release.
 
That depends on whether or not they decide to take a different route.

You know how in Gen. 5 foreign languages were introduced in-game? What if X & Y decide to make 30% NPCs speak French?

If they do pre-release a Pikaclone, I hope they reveal acceptable (good) stats.
 
That depends on whether or not they decide to take a different route.

You know how in Gen. 5 foreign languages were introduced in-game? What if X & Y decide to make 30% NPCs speak French?

If they do pre-release a Pikaclone, I hope they reaveal acceptable (good) stats.

That's true, but advertisers think differently than game designers. The magazine can only report on how the games are pulling out all the stops once again, the makeup and order of the content is unlikely to change drastically between generations.

The only way having characters speak French would work without frustrating international players would be if reading their text was just as much of a learning experience as learning how to battle in-game. I don't think they would go so far as to make such an obvious cultural reference, since the Pokémon world is highly similar to our own, partly for having people who fluently speak popular languages, but not so much that they would say "this region in the Pokémon world is exactly like France in our own world". Keep in mind that the Kalos Region "is shaped like a star". Also, there was a Frenchman in Veilstone City in DPPt and a character in Violet City was written with the intent of speaking with a French accent, so Gen V wasn't the first generation to have multiple languages present in its script regardless of the primary language.

Pikaclones aside, we would most likely only know about any Pokémon's stat spread if someone playing a demo were to write down a party Pokémon's statistical information.
 
While Feint Attack makes a hell of a lot more sense, I believe the attack description says that it pretends to faint.
"Draws the foe close, then strikes without fail."
"The user draws up to the foe disarmingly, then throws a sucker punch. It hits without fail."

I don't see why it was ever Faint Attack, the japanese name of Sneak Attack fits it perfectly. What's a faint attack anyway?
 
"Draws the foe close, then strikes without fail."
"The user draws up to the foe disarmingly, then throws a sucker punch. It hits without fail."

I don't see why it was ever Faint Attack, the japanese name of Sneak Attack fits it perfectly. What's a faint attack anyway?

why are you guys so confused about this

faint means 'hard to see'. the attack is always successful because the opponent is unable to see your mon getting near them.
 
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