That is actually pretty new, Quick Guard didn't block against Prankster boosted moves last gen only moves which had enhanced priority by default. Are you absolutely sure it worked like this in game?Having just tested in-game and on Showdown!, Quick Guard actually does block Prankster and Gale Wings, despite what Showdown! would lead you to believe. Quick Guard is totally replacing Fake Out on my Meowstic.
That is actually pretty new, Quick Guard didn't block against Prankster boosted moves last gen only moves which had enhanced priority by default. Are you absolutely sure it worked like this in game?
Quick Guard blocks the hell out of Talonflame, at least on Showdown, so I'd assume it's safe to say it works in-game this way as well.
I feel Scrafty is the best current user for Quick Guard atm. Great set of STABs, Intimidate, Fake Out, and now the ability to cockblock Thundurus (upon release), Talonflame, Scizor, etc.
That is some horrifically backwards thinking, it works on Showdown so therefore it works in game?Quick Guard blocks the hell out of Talonflame, at least on Showdown, so I'd assume it's safe to say it works in-game this way as well.
I feel Scrafty is the best current user for Quick Guard atm. Great set of STABs, Intimidate, Fake Out, and now the ability to cockblock Thundurus (upon release), Talonflame, Scizor, etc.
Your Escavalier was unable to block Fake Out because both moves have the same priority and your Escavalier was slower than the Fake Out users.Oh wow just found this topic today trying to figure out if Quick Guard is capable of blocking Fake out (and I do bring this question up to anyone that knows or can confirm it doesn't have the same priority as it). 5th gen I had an Escavalier with it and it was unable to block fake out (which is really dumb). I hope this isn't the case this gen.
Wide Guard and Quick Guard fail if the user moves last, either because everything else switched out or used higher priority moves. This also applied to them in Gen 5 and is the case for all Protect-like moves.All I can do is hope someone comes along and validates the rare failure, which based on everyone's assertions is probably the bug.
Fake Out and Quick Guard both still have +3 priority so you're out of luck there. Only M-Meowstic has a +4 Quick Guard thanks to Prankster.I mean I hope that this gen, the priority for quick guard is higher than fake out this gen. Really lame that they both have the same priority and that the only way to actually stop it is get another fake out user that's faster or use innerfocus crobat (or protect, but that's essentially what fake out forces you to do, waste a turn) when the move is suppose to stop priority.
rage powder/follow me only have +2 priority so fake out will indeed always go first against said user thanks to its +3 priority.Fake Out and Quick Guard both still have +3 priority so you're out of luck there. Only M-Meowstic has a +4 Quick Guard thanks to Prankster.
I haven't encountered a Rage Powder/Follow Me user yet so I'm curious to see if it also stops those things...
rage powder/follow me only have +2 priority so fake out will indeed always go first against said user thanks to its +3 priority.
Rage powder and follow me both aren't attacks. They're a status that is inflicted on the user that forces all single target moves to target the user of follow me/rage powder (assuming you're not a grass type or a oblivious mon) so quick guard will be useless against follow me/rage powder.Should have been more clear, meant Quick Guard vs Rage Powder/Follow Me.
Wouldn't that kind of sucks though? since you have to sacrifice some coverage when you do that. Don't get me wrong the suprise factor might make it worth it but still after you use it then the move isn't really usefull anymore.Wide guard is pretty easy to predict. I always carried Stone Edge along with Rock Slide and Ice Beam along with Blizzard just for that purpose. Its always a hoot to see the look on their face when you Stone Edge their Volcarona through their Wide Guard.
I forget that when smogon talks about doubles they're not talking about VGC. I actually did get to see some great facial expressions yesterday at the Missouri regional when I feinted their wide and quick guards and proceeded to do whatever I wanted to do. Also had someone use quick guard, then protect. Lots of "Wait, wait... how did that... I thought..." *blank stares*Wouldn't that kind of sucks though? since you have to sacrifice some coverage when you do that. Don't get me wrong the suprise factor might make it worth it but still after you use it then the move isn't really usefull anymore.
Also its pretty cool that you can see people's face through the internet.