Yeah, just playing a few games, ran into a couple of teams exactly like this. Mega Venusaur is mandatory though. Chansey is the glue that stops you from getting anywhere.
My stall team is as followsWith Lucario banned, stall has risen in usage. But almost all stalls use the very same Pokemon:
-Mega-Venusaur/Mega-Scizor
-Heatran
-Unaware Quagsire
-Skarmory/Mandibuzz
-Chansey/Clefable (Unaware or Magic Guard)
-Gliscor/Aegislash/Hippowdown
Heatran.And also, how in God's name does stall defeat Mawile? For crying out loud, beating Mega Luke was easier.
Play Rough is a solid 2HKO against Quagsire lol, no chance. Heatran takes 80% from +2 Sucker Punch so keep that in mind, but Lava Plume does at least 70% and has a good burn chance. Worst case scenario you just phaze it out and try to not let it setup again. Even a x4 resisted Play Rough does at least 34% after an SD, but Heatran can shrug it off with Lefties and Protect.From my experiences, Heatran suffers against Mega-Mawile after one boost.
What about Quagsire? Unaware ignores its boost and you can basically only do damage to it with Play Rough.
1. Chansey monopolizes this role completely. Other option is Unaware or Magic Guard Clefable.I know I have mentioned this a few times before in this thread in some way or another, but this is how I feel that most good stall teams end up looking like. I have looked through some other stall teams mentioned around and in the RMT forum, and the good one's follow this formula.
1. Primary Special Wall: All the teams I have seen have this feature, whether it be Blissey and Chansey or Clefable. It just seems necessary for the team's defensive backbone. I know that one can run a stall team without this kind of Pokemon in theory, checking special attackers through other Pokemon throughout the team, but I haven't seen that this generation yet.
2. Genesect Counter: As I just noted, most teams have a special wall like Blissey / Chansey or Clefable, while they are great walls, they fail to wall the special attacking monster that is Genesect. Most of the time this leads something like Heatran an automatic choice, however as Ajwf as demonstrated, other Genesect checks like Charizard-X are also viable in this slot.
3. Grass-type: Between their ability to check Pokemon like Breloom, Azumarill, Keldeo, a variety of Fighting-types, and ability to take on Rotom-W over and over again, Grass-types like Venusaur and Amoonguss pretty much always find their way onto stall teams this generation. Celebi and Roserade work similarly, but I haven't seen them used effectively yet. Gougeist, Trevant, and Ferrothorn all fill this niche but have a weakness to some of the Pokemon mentioned initially. I have seen a few stall teams without a Grass-type, but honestly they seem to be the exception rather than the norm.
4. Pinsir / Mamoswine counter: These 2 Pokemon have the smallest gap of counters as far as common physical threats go. The most common go to answer is Skarmory, but Rotom-W can work to similar effect. This Pokemon does not have to cover both of them at once, something that only checks one like Zapdos or Slowbro are fine, however they will have a weakness to one of these which will need to be covered in the next Pokemon.
5. A physical wall or check of some sort: Pretty much whatever you are not covering in the last Pokemon physical, should be covered here. It isn't going to be perfect, and it doesn't have to be, you have 1 more slot, but they should in a way complement each other and the Grass-type, covering most physical Pokemon at this stage. This Pokemon will vary depending on the team and what is needed, however Pokemon like Hippowdon, Gliscor, and Landorus-T are decent options.
6. Miscellaneous: Check / Glue / Spinner / Ect: This will usually the most varying Pokemon. It is basically what your team needs, whatever it is, it will usually tie up any lose Pokemon you have as threats, and make the team function better as a whole.
Please, for the love of god, add a tl;dr to this postsnip
Quagsire handles the majority of set-up sweepers better than Clefable does. Clefable can be 2HKO'd by Mega Tyranitar's Stone Edge, Mega Charizard-X's Flare Blitz, SD Aegislash & Bisharp's Iron Head, Scizor's Bullet Punch. All very common and better dealt with by Quag. There are very few common set up sweepers better dealt with by Clefable.Is Unaware Quagsire really that popular? I've tried using it a few times, but I really don't understand it's value over Unaware Clefable. There's a lot more viable ground types for a stall team than there are fairies. I currently run Hippow-Skarm-Clefable-Chansey-Tentacruel -Zygarde ( hesitant about the last one, but I've been seeking a dragon that can take physical hits, and there really doesn't seem to be one).
And also, how in God's name does stall defeat Mawile? For crying out loud, beating Mega Luke was easier.