Other Silly Things You've Seen On The OU Ladder: V2

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I fail to see how Shadow Claw is terrible on Aegislash. It's his only worthwhile Physical Ghost STAB stronger than Shadow Sneak. Aegislash's Brave Fencer set, one of the earliest ones suggested when X & Y first came out, was Iron Head/Swords Dance, Shadow Claw, Sacred Sword, King's Shield. Shadow Claw and Sacred Sword give perfect neutral coverage, and then you either run Swords Dance for boosting or Iron Head for more immediate power through your secondary STAB. It's shut down by Will-o-wisp, of course, but Will-o-wisp only became such a common move after Aegislash showed up.

And hey, testing out your "weird ideas" that work in theory to see if they work in practice really isn't all that bad.

Energy Ball on Jellicent hits other Water-types (including Rotom-W). While it's normally a waste of a moveslot just to hit other Water-types, hitting Rotom-W for SE damage is very nice.

Speaking of stupid, though, this: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-96970959
> Mega Mawile Sucker Punching an Infernape.
> Forretress obvious best switch-in vs. Infernape.
> Calm Mind boosting specially offensive Carbink. (Them base 50 offences, though.) Maybe at +4 or so it could deal damage with an SE Power Gem, but... I don't know. I mean, Sap Sipper Belly Drum Azumarill has really underwhelming power, and that's at +6.
> Using Toxic Spikes when everything remaining on the opponent's team is either going to die to SR anyway, or is immune.
> After setting up Swords Dance and being forced out by Dragon Tail, setting up Swords Dance again... and having it work because Dragon Tail misses.
> Thunder Wave + Gyro Ball Ferrothorn... again.
> X-Scissor Mega Scizor. Seriously guys, use Bug Bite.
> Nasty Plot Togekiss, while Toxic'ed, setting up on Aegislash's attack turn, thus allowing Aegislash to King's Shield its attack.
> Aegislash using Sacred Sword on Togekiss.
> Forretress (as this guy's last Pokémon) using Volt Switch on Latios instead of Gyro Ball.

Also this: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-96981321
> Counter + Sash Gengar actually going for Counter when a second Shadow Ball would've guaranteed a KO on their Mega Pinsir without losing almost all your health in the process.
> Forfeiting when a bad play results in you losing your Mega.
 
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I've seen this happen several times.

"Other guy send out Gliscor!"
Alright then, I'll just keep Rotom W the most used Pokemon in OU in.
"The opposing Gliscor used Earthquake! It doesn't affect DERP (Rotom-W)" (Yes I named him that :P)
Are you fucking serious? You switch in a Ground type on a Water type. (their secondary types don't matter since Gliscor doesn't use Flying STAB much and Electric... Well yeah)
 
The Shellder Smuggler said:
Round two of "Can you watch this without injuring yourself?" : http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-96925535 (Yep, this is becoming my thing now)

- Sludge Wave Gengar (Over Sludge Bomb....?) Sludge Wave is standard on Gengar, it's more powerful than Sludge Bomb...
- Offensive, leftovers Trevenant Trevenant has decent attack, so it isn't that bad.
- A fucking all ghost team There are a lot of mono teams out there, you must be new if you haven't seen one before.
- Shadow Claw Aeglislash (Like Gengar...Over Shadow Sneak) It's the strongest physical ghost attack he gets, I don't see the problem here.
- Another goddamn regigigas stall He obviously wasn't prepared for it.
- Non Will-O-Wisp Mega Banette Pretty silly, but not that bad
- BANETTE STAYED IN WITH GENGAR He didn't have anything else to switch in..
- It's fucking like gengar can learn focus blast (Turn 23, and earlier turns)
- Leftovers Aegislash

Albacore

Should've made it another now of these rounds....

And, to everyone, this is my go-to team, that I've been using in these replays. Thoughts?
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Hclegend said:
I've seen this happen several times.

"Other guy send out Gliscor!"
Alright then, I'll just keep Rotom W the most used Pokemon in OU in.
"The opposing Gliscor used Earthquake! It doesn't affect DERP (Rotom-W)" (Yes I named him that :P)
Are you fucking serious? You switch in a Ground type on a Water type. (their secondary types don't matter since Gliscor doesn't use Flying STAB much and Electric... Well yeah)
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I'm guessing to take the electric attack? Still a bad move, either way.
 
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-96997390 — So let me tell you a story about how I won a match with a Banded Celebi at +2 locked into Seed Bomb. Naturally, this is a rather silly story, so I'll give you some highlights:
> Me going for Taunt instead of Defog, resulting in me being forced out with Stealth Rock still on the field.
> Is Mixed Abomasnow with Seed Bomb normal? It crit my Chansey and KO'd it, so I suppose that worked, but still.
> Me, for letting my Gardevoir get owned by Milotic and using Wish instead of just Mega Evolving and whacking it.
> Non-Speed Boost, Choice Banded Scolipede. Band Scoli seems okay to me, but... Without Speed Boost?
> Sigilyph that took Hail damage.
> Band Scolipede apparently lacking Rock Slide.
> Sableye tricking a Choice Band onto Physical Celebi.
> Getting swept by Physical Celebi while she's locked into Seed Bomb.
> Scolipede going for Earthquake vs. Celebi instead of either Megahorn or Rock Slide. Megahorn would've been able to finish off most of the rest of my team. Mega Gardevoir is slower than Scoli and is at 18% and Burned. My Scolipede may have given him trouble, however. Or, it might have lost the probable speed tie and been owned. And if he'd had Rock Slide? Well, that would be "gg" right there.
 
Albacore said:
Wait, Leftovers Aegislash? Seriously? Is that what you're calling silly?
I used to think you were nitpicking, but now, I think you're probably trolling. There is no way you sould seriously consider Lefties Aegislash to be silly. Leftovers is pretty much the most common item on Aegislash!
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Nah, bro, not trolling. It is kinda a true when I put thought into it, leftovers is a pretty common item. Not sure what I was thinking.
 
The Shellder Smuggler said:
Nah, bro, not trolling. It is kinda a true when I put thought into it, leftovers is a pretty common item. Not sure what I was thinking.
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Maybe you were confused due to the fact that there was so much stupid?
Now, time for the things I found that were silly!
-Berry Juice Ferrothorn.
-Zygarde. IN UBERS.
-Shadow Sneak Gardevoir.
-Hyper Beam Reggigigas.
-Non-Protean Greninja
-Full Health Endeavor Mamoswine...

Now, my stupid when I was new:
-Hyper Beam Raikou
-Sitrus Berry Togekiss
-Timid Special Based Sceptile with Leaf Blade.
 
AwesomeFennekin said:
Maybe you were confused due to the fact that there was so much stupid?
Now, time for the things I found that were silly!
-Berry Juice Ferrothorn.
-Zygarde. IN UBERS.
-Shadow Sneak Gardevoir.
-Hyper Beam Reggigigas.
-Non-Protean Greninja
-Full Health Endeavor Mamoswine...
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Zygarde's ability actually makes it function decently in Ubers, as it makes Yveltal's dark and Xerneas' Fairy STABs noticeably weaker.
 
Didn't save the replay, but just saw:

- Defiant Empoleon, with only special attacks
- Sableye spamming will-o-wisp on my poison heal breloom
- Eviolite Slowpoke
- Spinda

Is eviolite slowpoke even viable in NU?
 
finncent1 said:
It has terrible offenses, but decent defenses. I never saw it last gen NU, but it doesn't seem terrible. Not too bad though:
252+ Atk Choice Band Iron Fist Golurk Shadow Punch vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Slowpoke: 236-278 (61.4 - 72.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
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Son of a bitch, seriously? It could be yawn bait or something, but probably will only be seen as a fodder lead
 
- Quick Claw + Double Edge Mamoswine
- Quick Claw Nidoking that set up Toxic Spikes against a team where only 1 member would be affected
- Toxic Orb, Hex + Facade Chandelure...
- Onix
- Quick Claw Jolteon
- Physical Gengar
- Attract Lilligant
- Ferrothorn trying to use Leech Seed on Lilligant: 4 or 5 times
- Dazzling Gleam, Cute Charm Sylveon
- Attract Typhlosion
- (I'd Say Bounce Seismitoed... but it did kill a Breloom with it...)
- Hypnosis + Nightmare + Dream Eater Gengar
- Ingrain on a non Baton Pass team (seriously, don't use it, ever)
- Physically Attacking Umbreon
- Greninja using: 1) shadow sneak on Smeargle, 2) Aerial ace
- Umbreon using Detect (not in doubles) and Dark Pulse
- Physical Charizard-Y with Outrage (Alright, not terrible, but WHY?)
- Mixed Mega Gyarados

I thought making a compilation list would be hard, but all I did was look at six random replays, seriously.

Links: 1 2 3 4 5 6
 
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Random Shit volume 50: Half Century Edition
-Non-mega Charizard setting up DD on Gengar, only to switch out after taking almost no damage.
-The reason why: Gengar was spamming Dazzling Gleam.
-Unknown Hidden Power Gliscor. It also had the decidedly less terrible Aqua Tail (hey, at least it can hit Talonflame) and tried to Toxic a Ferrothorn. Three times.
-Cloyster using Substitute... while badly poisoned. Later I saw a Mandibuzz do the same thing.
-A Galvantula that decided to run Rain Dance to help its Thunder.
-Silver Wind Scizor, that actually did something (sort of) after being BP'ed +6 SpA.
-Dragonite that only used Fire Blast.
-I would mention the Feint Scizor, but that allowed it to beat a FEAR Magnemite.
-Mega Drain Roserade.
-Alakazam without Magic Guard.
-Flame Plate Volcarona outspeeding a Thundurus-T.
-Shock Wave+Charge+Charge Beam+Thunder Zapdos.
-We've all heard about Energy Ball Jellicent, but how about Energy Ball Gengar?
-Same Gengar also had Sucker Punch.
-Choice Band Dragonite with Fire Blast.
-Oh, did that Tyranitar go mega? Better use Knock Off.
-Air Balloon Manectric. In OU.
-The only thing we have to fear is... not this FEAR team: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-97026545
-This guy must think the TPP teams have overstayed their welcome: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-97027272
-And this is what happens when BP fails: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-97027758
-Dragon Breath Latios.
-A completely random Vileplume, on an otherwise viable team.
-Several attempts to repeatedly inflict the same status on something.
-And, of course, the ever-present lack of knowledge and/or ignorance of Magic Bounce.
 
FlameUser64 said:
Correction: Compoundeyes gives it 97.5% accuracy. Which is still pretty good.

Honestly, running itemless with Thief, Fling, and Acrobatics seems like a fun gimmick, though it would be better to start with a Fossil or Rare Bone so you can Fling that for massive damage. (The whole thing would be way better, though, if something got Magician, a decent Attack stat, and Fling all on the same mon. Preferably with STAB.)
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weavile wants a word with you...
 
michaeloche said:
Random Shit volume 50: Half Century Edition
-Non-mega Charizard setting up DD on Gengar, only to switch out after taking almost no damage.
-The reason why: Gengar was spamming Dazzling Gleam.
-Unknown Hidden Power Gliscor. It also had the decidedly less terrible Aqua Tail (hey, at least it can hit Talonflame) and tried to Toxic a Ferrothorn. Three times.
-Cloyster using Substitute... while badly poisoned. Later I saw a Mandibuzz do the same thing.
-A Galvantula that decided to run Rain Dance to help its Thunder.
-Silver Wind Scizor, that actually did something (sort of) after being BP'ed +6 SpA.
-Dragonite that only used Fire Blast.
-I would mention the Feint Scizor, but that allowed it to beat a FEAR Magnemite.
-Mega Drain Roserade.
-Alakazam without Magic Guard.
-Flame Plate Volcarona outspeeding a Thundurus-T.
-Shock Wave+Charge+Charge Beam+Thunder Zapdos.
-We've all heard about Energy Ball Jellicent, but how about Energy Ball Gengar?
-Same Gengar also had Sucker Punch.
-Choice Band Dragonite with Fire Blast.
-Oh, did that Tyranitar go mega? Better use Knock Off.
-Air Balloon Manectric. In OU.
-The only thing we have to fear is... not this FEAR team: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-97026545
-This guy must think the TPP teams have overstayed their welcome: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-97027272
-And this is what happens when BP fails: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/ou-97027758
-Dragon Breath Latios.
-A completely random Vileplume, on an otherwise viable team.
-Several attempts to repeatedly inflict the same status on something.
-And, of course, the ever-present lack of knowledge and/or ignorance of Magic Bounce.
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This is niche but Energy Ball does more damage to Rotom-W and helps with Gastrodon
 
Facepalmboook said:
difference between niche, unviable and stupid
Niche: a pokemon that fills an unique or semi-unique role in the metagame
Example: Shuckle is one of few pokemon that can set up both Stealth Rock and Sticky web. It also has access to power split and has decent bulk. This gives shuckle a niche on Hyper-Offensive Teams.

unviable: A pokemon or moveset that
a. Needs more support than the reward you get.
b. Is totally and hopelessly outclassed
c. Gives the guy you battle against a monstreus ammount of free turns
Example: While being a strong Pokemon with good bulk and instant recovery, the fact that Slaking has truant makes it unviable

Stupid: A set or pokemon that absolutley makes no real sense
Example: Energy Ball Jellicent.
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Energy Ball Jellicent isn't completely stupid. Outclassed, probably. Specs Jelli was a thing at one point, and Energy Ball would allow it to hit the most commonly used Pokemon (Rotom W). Now if it was Absorb Jellicent, that would be completely stupid (since it gets both Energy Ball and Giga drain, which far outclass it); or if it were a physical set with Waterfall and Return or something...
 
Albacore said:
Energy Ball is always a viable option in a metagame ruled by Rotom-W
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I put chandelure on my team basically only because my team got flattened by the #1 Pokemon in the tier (team building logic right there) but then I realized chandy is a good scarfer in general and more than just my rotom-w check
 
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