This is not proof of any sort of drop in Mega Pinsir's viability. If anything, it proves how incredibly overcentralizing Mega Pinsir's power is upon team building. The current meta game right now is, "bring a Mega Pinsir or Talonflame counter or lose."
I never said Pinsir got worse, its exactly what you said, "bring a Mega Pinsir or Talonflame counter or lose". Following that logic, you can guarantee that your opponent will have multiple checks and counter to Birdspam, which makes it hard for Pinsir to do any real damage.
All you need is defog and teammates to eliminate those select few counters/checks and you can sweep through the entire rest of the metagame.
That is the same with all Pokemon, I could use Malamar to "sweep the rest of the metagame" as long as I eliminate its checks and counter, dont forget you're playing someone who should be thinking about threats to their team and will want to preserve their checks. Pinsir also has so many checks and counters that literally fit onto any playstyle, Rotom-W wrecks both Pinsir and Talon and works on balance and HO, Thundy-I is a guaranteed 1v1 win against Pinsir and 70% guaranteed to beat most of its partners. Skarm works on Balance and Stall and flat out wall Pinsir, sets up rocks and phases and Zapdos will always beat Pinsir.
Talonflame and Thundurus can check/revengekill basically everything in the meta I still dont think thats a valid point. Zapdos and Rotom-w are extremely shaky as checks/counters. Zapdos can be neutralized with a simple doubleswitch into a counter while rocks are up and Rotom cant even switch into Pinsir for fear of Moldbreaker. Terrakion and most scarfers rely on Stone Miss to take on Pinsir so using them can still get you killed. And even if it works, beeing revengekilled by something is bad reasoning to begin with imo.
Overall I havent read a good reason for demoting Pinsir so far. SR weak? Applys to 4 out of 5 S Rank mons and serveral A Rank mons. 1 good and 2 shaky counters? The other S Rank mons have far more than that. Ok he is predictable, cant argue about that but still, he doesnt need anything else to do his job and he does his job extremely well imo.
No no no no no. Every thing you said about its "limited" checks are completely wrong.
Talon/Thundy-I: Its a bad point that they check/revenge kill everything in the meta? But that means that are very effective, common and you have no way of stopping them doing their job.
Rotom-
W: You can see if a mon has MB when it comes in, Unless your opponent is playing blindfolded, I don't think they'll switch it in anytime soon.
Zapdos: I can neutralise any pokemon with a simple double switch, doesnt make said pokemon a bad check, the fact you had to double switch makes it a pretty darn good check. What happens when you switch Pinsir out of their rocks and back in? 50% health gone, easy. Pinsir can only do ~35% to Zapdos anyway.
Now we're just fabricating numbers out of thin air,
Counters: Skarmory (Takes piss from all attacks, phases, wears down or limits switch opportunuties), Rotom-W (Resists STAB and Coverage, KO with SE move), Zapdos (Resists STAB and coverave+Bulk, KO with SE move), Lando-T (Intimidate(assuming no Hyper Cutter)
Checks: Thundorus-I (Outspeeds, SE Move, Cripple), Talonflame (SE Priority, Outspeeds), Terrakion (Outspeeds, SE Move), Scarf Mole, Sash Loom (Spore/Rock Tomb), Lati@s (Outspeeds, SE Move), Mamo (SE Priority), Any fast electic type (Mega-Manetric, Raikou etc)
The rest of the S mons who are SR weak do not need to switch out as much because they either have ways of getting around checks and counters (surprise factor) or have forms of recovery. Take a look at Charizard, who has two distinct forms, X and Y, with very different roles and counters, meaning unless you can guess really well, you face the very real possibility of losing a mon. Both CharX and Y have many different sets which aim to eliminate would be checks, such as Phys ZardY or Sp.Def CharX. Both Charizards are able to recover lost damage thanks to Roost and will 90% of the time do the job they were sent in to do. Pinsir on the other hand has one set, with very little variation, meaning an opponent can bring in a check without much worry. Pinsir has no form of recovery to speak of, meaning damage stays on for the entire match. Because of the lack of variation in Pinsirs moveset, when checks are brought in, Pinsir goes out. I never said Pinsir cant do its job or is bad, I am simply saying it lacks the ability to
consistantly do its job.
A+ is fine
