There's no gain for Obbmud there. C'mon man.
The only thing spire gained from missing your post was suspicion. Your argument is that he faked not seeing your post so he could deny him only posting because you called him out, which is bollocks considering as it has been said plenty of times, he announced his post would be coming before you got subbed in! How hard is it to consider he really just wrote up his post, couldn't finish it at the library, went home and rushed it to completion without realising there had been a sub? You claim you are talking in absolutes but as long as you can't disprove the other possibilities your absolutes mean nothing.There's no gain for Obbmud there. C'mon man.
Nonononono. Can you at least check what setups you post? None of those are LYLO! They are either MYLO or we already possibly lost options. I'm going for the we got a second mayor option, because SK option would have killed last night and I doubt we have a doctor with nitrox dying.
Have you read the reason why you were put on their scum list in the first place days ago? There you might find your answer.Can someone give me a real explanation on why I am like half the peoples scum list? I said one dumb thing on d1 and everyone either calls me a noob or calls me mafia
5. Tesung: Tesung is a new player, and that's quite obvious. I don't feel he's been adding much to discussions, but in general didn't stand out much either positively or negatively. Among my 4 most suspicious players (and since we likely have 4 mafia members in this game, that puts Tesung towards the scum-end of the spectrum for me).
''More experienced people don't make that kind of mistake, they usually slip on the long run by contradicting their past posts or changing their playstyle so there is so little to grab onto'' - [MYLO]LightWolf, #272
Looking at this discussion, I feel that Celever has just kept on playing like he did on previous days (and pretty much how I've seen him play in other games), while LightWolf jumps from his rational posts on earlier days to shouting and WIFOM-arguments. Would you consider this slipping? I would.
Regarding the question of why mafia doesn't jump into the discussion: why would mafia want to jump in? Assuming both of you are villagers, that means that pretty much all discussion right now goes to townies, and not to the mafia. What do you want as scum? The village wasting its time. That's kind of how I see this discussion: it's going nowhere and only costs time, which could also be used to look at other players.
Other players I'd like to call some attention to right now are starwarsfan (who promised to share his thoughts on the discussion after LoL All Stars ended, which was 24 hours ago, and who has been much more silent than on prior days), Tesung and PokeguyNXB (who still hasn't posted anything useful). These three players have been under fire before, and swf and Tesung were quite active, until this whole discussion started. This may be a case of the mafia keeping silent through this discussion, as I pointed out earlier in this post.
Tesung, I do think you are scummy. Make no mistake about that. :P However, I do feel for you. Your blatant bandwagoning is probably a tad misguided attempt to follow the village if you are noobtown, and I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. But, that doesn't excuse your godawful rationalization processes. I did catch on that your first reason for lynching Walrein was that aggressive scumhunting seemed bad to you thanks to an NOC you've read. This was your first defense. So why didn't you stick to it? If you could show me what threads you were reading, perhaps I could see where you got your misunderstanding from. But why you'd ever backpedal on your own word is beyond me. Perhaps I'm missing something? Until you explain, I'll have no choice but to assume you are scum.
I think I'd be willing to bandwagon that as we need to chose or we lose. I don't want to hammer wrong, but it's better than not hammering at all.I have a strange question to people mostly because I noticed an interesting trend, it feels like the whole game has starwarsfan down as at least their second option for the lynch, some maybe even in first place, so who is it currently that thinks that they might be willing to lynch him today. I'm not trying to see if we can get him lynched(okay now I kinda do) but also wondering if truly the WHOLE GAME thinks he is lynch worthy as of now.
I think I'm looking at Tesung right now. I believe spiresquire's claim of WPWT townie, because it's the type of claim that you would make if a watcher called you out, which has not happened. Tesung , are you willing to claim? I don't see the harm in doing so. Two of us have already done so, so it won't make you any more mafia bait than me and spiresquire (assuming that he was telling the truth.) I'm going to vote Tesung for bandwagoning on earlier days and causing the death of felony, who claimed deputy and nobody believed him. Vote StarwarsfanSo, TBH, I think that the three people we can consider for a lynch at this point are Tesung, spiresquire, and Obbmud99. (Well plus me but I'm obv village so not worth considering.) I've already given my thoughts on all three (tesung/obbmud scum, spire noobtown), please discuss.
Errrg Unvote Vote TesungI think I'm looking at Tesung right now. I believe spiresquire's claim of WPWT townie, because it's the type of claim that you would make if a watcher called you out, which has not happened. Tesung , are you willing to claim? I don't see the harm in doing so. Two of us have already done so, so it won't make you any more mafia bait than me and spiresquire (assuming that he was telling the truth.) I'm going to vote Tesung for bandwagoning on earlier days and causing the death of felony, who claimed deputy and nobody believed him. Vote Starwarsfan
Starwarsfan, I would like to see you claim to as you are also a candidate on the lynch-list it seems.
Wtf when have I bandwagonned other than the first day which many others did, when felony was the most suspicious player in the game. And lol at me causing the felony lynch when I wasn't even the one who attacked him in the first place. And I'm not claiming unless absolutely forced,my role is too important.
If the mafia had a talent scout, then they would know half of our roles anyway, so I'm not sure it really matters to defend yourself from the mafia. I honestly don't understand why claiming wouldn't help here; even if you did claim it wouldn't make you anymore of a mafia bait than any other player in the game (Lightwolf and celever are obvious targets with the logic of the B_T vote and me and possible spiresquire on the logic of the cancerous lynch.) I don't see how claiming is a mafia tell, unless you have a power role, which at this point would be an inspector or a doctor. We've already lost two inspectors, and it is unlikely that we have any more, and if you were a doctor, you've done a really bad job because the obvious kill on night 3 was nitrox116, and he was not protected. Ruling out both inspector and doctor, what other things would make you a mafia bait? Day vigilante is my last guess, and that doesn't fit either because you probably would have used it by now. Claiming bulletproof would make the mafia not want to waste their kill on you. If you were bodyguard you would have defended nitrox116 n3, and you would have died instead. If you claimed nurse than that would basically make you a vanilla townie, which is the same place I am. I don't see any roles left that would have lead you to feel as though you need to hide from the mafia. Also it seems like you go after me quite a bit. This leaves my diagnosis down to two options, which I will not disclose because I don't want you to say that I am right and claim exactly what I say will get you off the hook.Obbmud, Why would I claim? Why would Tesung claim? Claiming at this point only gives extra information to the mafia. If the village decides to hammer on one of us, then we should claim. We should absolutely not both claim immediately -- that is something only a mafia would want us to do. Lynch Obbmud99. This vote will stay until and unless we decide to hammer someone else.
This vote means nothing. My name was not spelled right :)I'm also gonna agree with swf. Obbmidd acted suspicious af all game. He then either told the truth or took a risk that cleared him, and he has then kept on acting suspicious. Lynch obbmud98.
I also am deeply suspicious of the walrein/cxinlee combo, walrein was inactive, then cxinlee came in and just started accusing people
Claiming would also provide more information than what we have now, which is nothing. Also, nobody has defaced my single mason claim yet with a mason claim of their own.What are everyone's thoughts on a vonFiedler lynch? More Cowbell because he is active tag. I mean, you have my thoughts a couple posts up, but I think he is the scummiest rn.
If we get an extension then great, if not then I'll lynch Obbmud closer to deadline so that we can get a lynch off.
Obbmud99 don't forget that if they was in theory a doctor, any number of things could have happened to Nitrox to stop him protecting the guy. Well actually just the mafia roleblocker hitting well... but still.
Claiming would usually be quite a good option in LYLO, however because there are many chances of duplicate roles, ccs are not a reliable way of telling scum, and thus it wouldn't be very helpful today.