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magic bounce espeon says hi to haze and taunt. there was a rmt that had a team that pretty much made any "counter" to his bp team a check at best and that was depending on predictions and luck.
Haze eliminates ALL status changes in FIELD. Also, I forgot about unaware pokemon.And it was NOT that strong. Only if you let the enemy set up. You got 6 pokemon in your team, each has 4 moves. 6x4=24. Get one of these pokemons moves and make it haze, and its not just a counter to BP teams, but if you mess up and let your opponents Gyarados set up , its also a counter to that.

Smogon banned magikarp sweeps. LOL
 
Haze eliminates ALL status changes in FIELD. Also, I forgot about unaware pokemon.And it was NOT that strong. Only if you let the enemy set up. You got 6 pokemon in your team, each has 4 moves. 6x4=24. Get one of these pokemons moves and make it haze, and its not just a counter to BP teams, but if you mess up and let your opponents Gyarados set up , its also a counter to that.

Smogon banned magikarp sweeps. LOL
I'm going to respond with this question and then stop, so we don't derail the thread. How many OU viable Pokemon can carry Haze and are fast enough to outrun an opponent at +1 or survive a hit (considering DD is arguably the most common/effective boosting move), ignoring Focus Sash (considering hazards, priority, and opportunity cost of another item)?
 
Haze, taunt, Infiltrator, take out the speed passer by attacking without stopping, Imposter Ditto, and a lot more of options. Even focus sash freaking WOBBUFET
The discussion thread can still be found in the OU forum, if you wanna read a lot of arguments ^.^
Basically, you HAVE to pack a dedicated counter to it (most of which are garbage, and those that aren't, such as Roar Mega Gyarados, are usually suboptimal), if you don't, you simply lose at team preview. If you're badly prepared for playing against, idk, stall, a good player can still work his way around it, but that's not possible with BP.
Haze is garbage outside of stopping BP and there are no OU viable mons who can afford to run it, Taunt is bounced back by Espeon, idek how Infiltrator is relevant, hard attacking without stopping is not as easy as it sounds when they have their defense boosts up, etc. Even unaware users don't work, they ignore the sp.atk boosts but they still have to eat a 500 BP Stored Power. And if you don't pack any of the few counters, you lose at team preview and you can't work your way around it, which takes skill out of the game. That's basically the arguments for banning it ^.^
(and you can't simply say 'run haze lol', because then we might just as well unban Kyogre and say 'run Gastrodon lol'. And nobody is forcing you to play by Smogon rules, if you don't like the BP clause then agree with your opponent not to adhere to it ^.^)
 
The discussion thread can still be found in the OU forum, if you wanna read a lot of arguments ^.^
Basically, you HAVE to pack a dedicated counter to it (most of which are garbage, and those that aren't, such as Roar Mega Gyarados, are usually suboptimal), if you don't, you simply lose at team preview. If you're badly prepared for playing against, idk, stall, a good player can still work his way around it, but that's not possible with BP.
Haze is garbage outside of stopping BP and there are no OU viable mons who can afford to run it, Taunt is bounced back by Espeon, idek how Infiltrator is relevant, hard attacking without stopping is not as easy as it sounds when they have their defense boosts up, etc. Even unaware users don't work, they ignore the sp.atk boosts but they still have to eat a 500 BP Stored Power. And if you don't pack any of the few counters, you lose at team preview and you can't work your way around it, which takes skill out of the game. That's basically the arguments for banning it ^.^
(and you can't simply say 'run haze lol', because then we might just as well unban Kyogre and say 'run Gastrodon lol'. And nobody is forcing you to play by Smogon rules, if you don't like the BP clause then agree with your opponent not to adhere to it ^.^)
All right , sorry, just keep banning stuff.

looking for 2 lucky eggs.
Whats a good place to level up pokes thats not E4 and le Wow?
 
Looking a brave soul to RNG me a special Clefable.

  • Shiny
  • Hp Ground
  • Knows Soft-boiled and Counter
So, I need a good gen 3 RNG abuser, really.

(Emulator work accepted)


Also, I have this for trade. Offer away muchachas.

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  • Battle ready
  • 31/x/31/31/31/31
  • 252 Sp.A/252 Sp/4 Def
  • Egg Moves: Hypnosis, Heat Wave (needs HS), Power Swap
  • Can re-learn Hex
  • Super pretty ;)
 
Looking a brave soul to RNG me a special Clefable.

  • Shiny
  • Hp Ground
  • Knows Soft-boiled and Counter
So, I need a good gen 3 RNG abuser, really.

(Emulator work accepted)


Also, I have this for trade. Offer away muchachas.

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dreamball.png


  • Battle ready
  • 31/x/31/31/31/31
  • 252 Sp.A/252 Sp/4 Def
  • Egg Moves: Hypnosis, Heat Wave (needs HS), Power Swap
  • Can re-learn Hex
  • Super pretty ;)

What would you like?
 
Okay, so I need a Mild ...something... with Synchronize. Doesn't need any special IVs or anything, just the nature and ability.

Anyone able to help? Can offer a (cloned) 5IV (-Spe) female Chespin or Chikorita (both with 4 egg moves) in a Nest Ball for breeding. Or I have a few 5/6IV full-redis KB Shinies that I've got in trades.
 
Just got myself a Pokemon Y copy and looked up how to RNG abuse, and came across a smogon thread confirming that RNG abuse is impossible in the 6th gen.
however the thread was from some time ago, is this true?
 
Just got myself a Pokemon Y copy and looked up how to RNG abuse, and came across a smogon thread confirming that RNG abuse is impossible in the 6th gen.
however the thread was from some time ago, is this true?
Yes. From the looks of it and how the system works, it may never be possible to RNG X and Y (and subsequent games). I feel your pain...
 
Just got myself a Pokemon Y copy and looked up how to RNG abuse, and came across a smogon thread confirming that RNG abuse is impossible in the 6th gen.
however the thread was from some time ago, is this true?
Like Sakuretsu said, it's possible that RNG abuse for 6th gen may never be available. It's not really that big a deal though, what with the new Destiny Knot breeding mechanics, and with all legendaries having guaranteed 3 perfect IVs. Breeding and soft-resetting for perfect IVs are no longer impossible tasks, I encourage you to look up guides here on both :)
 
Where can I find such guides? Haven't come across any after a bit of searching..
on the other hand though, I personally enjoy this change. The days of SR'ing were much more enjoyable!
 
Keep or toss?


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Moltres - #146 (Modest)
HP: 30
Att: 30
Def: 16 - 17
SpA: 31
SpD: 31
Speed: 31

edit: Tossed. Back to resetting...

edit2: Glad I did, just got this beauty:

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Moltres - #146 (Modest)
HP: 30
Att: 0 - 1
Def: 26
SpA: 31
SpD: 31
Speed: 31

Hidden Power Ice
 
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Haze, taunt, Infiltrator, take out the speed passer by attacking without stopping, Imposter Ditto, and a lot more of options. Even focus sash freaking WOBBUFET
Those counters are few and have a limited distribution, and being forced to run a direct counter for a playstyle overcentralizes the metagame, which is exactly what we DON'T need. But that's just my opinion.

On a more related note, where can I find sprites for a trade thread I'm making?
 
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