First v, im not 13, in fact compared to you, im probably a dinosaur. Second you're just spewing basically the same bullshit i know is false. I would gladly sacrifice that portion of my pay for a system that works. most americans (like you i will assume.) are ignorant of this. Allow me to explain.
Unlike most people i agree on higher taxes. All people should be paying higher taxes especially the wealthy because its revolting when i see homeless dying of starvation in the streets or eating garbage while some overpaid jack off paying 15k for an umbrella stand or building seven or eight homes. This capitalist structure you seem to love is a big steaming pile of horse shit. What's so great about capitalism? Enlighten me.
V, i had not formed an opinion about you until now, but it seems and feel free to tell me why I'm wrong, I want to be wrong about this. That you're just another selfish ignorant american who wants all aid to the poor cut off because "I shouldn't have to pay for it." That the same fucking thing i hear every time i have this discussion. because when it comes right down to it. Americans, generally speaking, are just ignorant and selfish. Bottom line. Your gripe about possibly losing some of your paycheck for healthcare just proves my point. Your point seems to be that its okay for most people to suffer without healthcare as long as you don't have to pay for it. that is disgusting to a point that makes my stomach churn.
And also, how are universal healthcare systems inferior to the current shitbox HMOs we have now? I doubt its much cheaper. It certainly does not help people. I would rather be sure to have a mediocre doctor around always, rather than have to wait and bleed to death while the supposed super doctors over here search me for an HMO card.
You were right about the Slavery thing though but my point flies right over your head. I think the issues are only important to the ignorant. Just like slavery was any semi enlightend person knew slavery was wrong. even then. for a true hero of the abolitionist movement, look up the name John Brown not Abe Lincoln. because as great as Abe was he was still just a foot dragging politician. who while being wise to avoid war should have known sooner that for all the reasons wars are fought ending slavery was one of the few that had any sliver of truth.
To me abortion i feel is wrong, its murder. wether the life in question is a full human being with thoughts or not is irrelevant. you are killing a member of your own species for personal reasons. Murder. bottom line. I'm for gay marriage because if they want to fine. this stupid bullshit that marriage is sacred is ignorance to a degree that brakes the needle. In a nation with television shows like divorce court and who wants to marry a millionaire its not. Second dont feed me your shit about how the religious right isnt involved in this issue I'm not fucking blind. when i see these swine waving the cross, a sacred symbol of peace and wisdom around while killing doctors and calling visitors to clinics whores, it makes me sick. Ive been there in the flesh and seen those fools. they didnt realize it was a planned parenthood clinic and some people go there to get advice on having a baby. They're just ignorant fools, and their opinion means nothing and should have no say in something important as the government. That may sound facist or communist to you, but i don't care. Progress should come first.
As i said before I am against abortion but you'll never read a news report about me killing a doctor with a wife and family with a rifle in his bushes because he aborted my child.
These are non issues because america is supposed to be the nation of freedom and liberty and those values are more important than anyones opinion because they are supposed to be what america is all about. so these two issues are no brainers. abortions do not hurt these foolish protesters throwing things and calling names. they just like the ego boost it gives them. and the rat spawn politicians love how manipulating the issue can net them votes. and allow them to make more money in bribes- er- i mean campaign contributions.
You're not telling me anything i haven't heard before. its the same stuff worms like rush limbaugh and ann coulter have been spewing out for years. In closing, don't belittle me for attacking the nazis when you're only quoting from Mein Kampf.
Incredibly, incredibly wrong. I edited my other post, you can see the dit, where I stated I am a communist. Ironic that someone that takes the name Vyacheslav is a communist? Though its a somewhat bad example, I was parading around as Bakunin earlier.
If we are going to continue with taxes, then I also agree with you there. Higher taxes are imperitive, but a mandatory state-wide health care system wouldn't be effective. I'll get to that later in the post, because this is going to be a long one. But, taxes are just an advanced system of wealth redistribution, so they aren't all bad.
The 'wealthy' should not pay higher taxes. This is a nation supposedly built on equality. You miss a vital point in taxing the wealthy more. If you are to represent the poor, then by taxing the wealthy an extra amount you are metaphorically 'feeding him for a day' (as in the old fishing story).
Let me explain. When the wealthy make up a large percent of the Nations income, they're values become more important than the those of the poor. When the poor folk make up a small, disproportionant amount of the national income, they are pushed to the back of the line when it comes time for decision making. This is undeniable fact. A flat tax rate would be far more efficient if you are to represent the welfare of the entire nation.
Now, I don't 'gripe' about losing my paycheck. But to institute a mandatory, rather LARGE sum of my paycheck towards what would end up being an inferior version of the current healthcare I recieve I will voice my opinion. The fact of the matter is that, when healthcare is universal and 'free', you are paying more for an inferior product. At the moment I (nor my family) pay 30% of their paycheck for health care.
Now, if there is no abuse for the health care system, then basically anyone has the (read this) POSSIBILITY of obtaining perfectly good health care, even the poor. Despite what you think about the United States of America, it is generally more or less a meritocracy in terms of industry. If you put a proportionate amount of effort into work you WILL be rewarded. True, there is very little chance for class-change in the United States, but hell, take what you can about the nation and be glad that for the most part we aren't a class-obsessed, aristocratic European nation (or France).
I'd like some evidence, that isn't the one-off 'THIS GUY DIED WHILE WAITING FOR CLEARANCE FUCK THE US' bullshit, that on average those that do not have Medical Insurance die because of the beuracracy of the current medical system. Please, for the love of god, do not quote Michael Moore or 'Sicko'.
As well, I never said Lincoln was a hero of the abolition movement. Hell, he was a genius politician, and only towards the end of his life was he an abolitionist in full. I referenced his debates with Douglas, that set the precedent of Minority Rights being sacred. The current infringement on Gay Rights is, more or less, unconstitutional.
I agree with you in that I think abortion is wrong, as my very conception was framed by the issue. Though it is within the rights of the American to protest it - and if you are to say this is a 'free' nation then why is the woman not 'free to choose'? Doubletalk, there.
I don't know why you compared me several times to right-wing political leaders, especially when I've continuously studied those on the left for my political beliefs. Again, the name is VYACHESLAV. The only right-winger I've ever thought to even be remotely brilliant in the ways of the politician was Franco for his masterful manipulation of Hitler's Germany.
I really do love it when people make claims and then say nothing to back them up. I really do.
Regardless of how I feel about the issue, back up your statements.
The people of this nation pride themselves on the free market. You will, never, in any way, convince a majority of people to give up a significant amount of their money in a mandatory bid for free health care. To them, it is signing away sovereignty of their money and of themselves.
I didn't think I had to explain that, sorry.
As well, one final note to the OP: Do not think hating America and bidding for universal health care is making you very communist. Remember that the latter trait is defining of Fascism as well, glorification of the state and limitation of capitalism. You may take that wrong, but Fascism is not necessarily an evil.
