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So, is everyone convinced that the leaks were the full dex?
I've my doubts.
Not all Pokemon are present. if those are the assets of the dex, then we're missing most of Pokemon for the national dex.
EDIT NUMBER 2 POINT: If this is a dex entry, why repeating the same resource with Minor when every shiny form is exactly the same? It doesn't make sense. Unless they're using a really bad structure.
Totem Pokemon have a shader over the model, they *shouldn't* count on dex images.
Pokestar enemies needed to be a Pokemon in order to be "battle-able". It's likely that in order to instantiate them as such they needed a shiny asset. With this I'm saying that for me it's very likely they're not Pokemon and thus, not catch-able.
Naming of the assets are weird, since they don't represent the dex number or the form. If something is the first and have an alternate form, it shouldn't be named as the nex number. It's easier in almost EVERY logic to be the number-form in order to do an efficient hashmap or whatever structure they use to reference the asset.
I think we're still blind about a lot of Pokemon and forms. Mark my words.
I'm kinda late on this but if we're talking about Ultra Beast being nothing like Pokemon ,something we really don't know much about, then what's the case for Deoxys? That thing came from space and is just a mutated space virus. Doesn't bother me if Ultra Beast are catchable or not but would be interesting none the less
So, is everyone convinced that the leaks were the full dex?
I've my doubts.
Not all Pokemon are present. if those are the assets of the dex, then we're missing most of Pokemon for the national dex.
Pokedex entries are 2D images. if you look at what we have seen already on dex and these sprites you will notice differences.
Totem Pokemon have a shader over the model, they *shouldn't* count on dex images.
Pokestar enemies needed to be a Pokemon in order to be "battle-able". It's likely that in order to instantiate them as such they needed a shiny asset. With this I'm saying that for me it's very likely they're not Pokemon and thus, not catch-able.
Naming of the assets are weird, since they don't represent the dex number or the form. If something is the first and have an alternate form, it shouldn't be named as the nex number. It's easier in almost EVERY logic to be the number-form in order to do an efficient hashmap or whatever structure they use to reference the asset.
I think we're still blind about a lot of Pokemon and forms. Mark my words.
Unless ive missed something, i haven't seen any fossil pokemon in the new dex and it would seem odd if new fossil pokemon weren't included in these games
Also, wouldn't we still be able to get some of the stats for the Pokémon you can battle in the demo? They should at least have those not be completely pikafied.
So, is everyone convinced that the leaks were the full dex?
I've my doubts.
Not all Pokemon are present. if those are the assets of the dex, then we're missing most of Pokemon for the national dex.
Pokedex entries are 2D images. if you look at what we have seen already on dex and these sprites you will notice differences. (Although this is questionable)
Totem Pokemon have a shader over the model, they *shouldn't* count on dex images.
Pokestar enemies needed to be a Pokemon in order to be "battle-able". It's likely that in order to instantiate them as such they needed a shiny asset. With this I'm saying that for me it's very likely they're not Pokemon and thus, not catch-able.
Naming of the assets are weird, since they don't represent the dex number or the form. If something is the first and have an alternate form, it shouldn't be named as the nex number. It's easier in almost EVERY logic to be the number-form in order to do an efficient hashmap or whatever structure they use to reference the asset.
I think we're still blind about a lot of Pokemon and forms. Mark my words.
1. its seemingly a regional dex, not the national dex images
2. pretty sure some of these match up from the few we've seen, actually? Even if they did differ I'm not sure what your point is...
3. Totem pokemon are also larger in size, not just filtered. The blank spots also match to some of our known totems so regardless of if it makes sense to, some of these are placeholders for totems. Besides if different genders get ever so slightly different poses, I'm sure totems can too
4. these are still dex or team preview images, which the pokestar studio monsters didnt have. They're also placed between known pokemon...there's no real reason to have these preview images
Speak for yourself i love them all. For me they are a cool concept for a legendary/mythical Pokémon. Just because you can catch them doesnt deprive them from their bossiness
I like them too but being able to catch them massively deprives them for me as bosses. Goku wouldn't catch Perfect Cell and try to befriend him. He's murdered innocent people and wants the world beneath his feet, the only option is to defeat him. A boss fight with a monster you have to defeat would have added a lot of weight to the battle. Just catching it is anticlimactic. It's the same as Arceus being the god of Pokemon but can be captured by a 10 year old. It's kind of silly.
The things are just going to rot in my PC box now since I don't play ubers.
EDIT: Also, Gamefreak spent all this time hyping them up as some mysterious creatures different from Pokemon. It's just weird to catch them.
1. its seemingly a regional dex, not the national dex images
2. pretty sure some of these match up from the few we've seen, actually? Even if they did differ I'm not sure what your point is...
3. Totem pokemon are also larger in size, not just filtered. The blank spots also match to some of our known totems so regardless of if it makes sense to, some of these are placeholders for totems. Besides if different genders get ever so slightly different poses, I'm sure totems can too
4. these are still dex or team preview images, which the pokestar studio monsters didnt have. They're also placed between known pokemon...there's no real reason to have these preview images
1. I will concede that it makes sense. Weird then that non-alolan Pokemon are there anyway, but I guess it's because they take the same spot.
2. I edited that point afterwards because it's just my impression.
3. A model can expand, I imagine. I don't see the need to have a bigger sprite of the same Pokemon.
4. There is a 000 asset as well and the only Pokemon afterwards seems as event Pokemon...I really, really doubt they're catchable.
But you're right, maybe I'm in too much denial. Good thing in a month I'll be proven wrong or not.
Eehh... I wouldn't say 100% confirmed. It's not like if they could just say "Nintendo told us this and that and yada yada" without it actually happening.
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the thunder wave nerf is ok, but gamefreak nerfed the wrong aspect of it, which makes it clear that they dont really know what they're doing in terms of balancing. the drop in speed was never the problem, the chance of being full paralyzed was.
the thunder wave nerf is ok, but gamefreak nerfed the wrong aspect of it, which makes it clear that they dont really know what they're doing in terms of balancing. the drop in speed was never the problem, the chance of being full paralyzed was.
But at what point is it not Paralysis anymore? I understand people would like the hax part of paralysis removed but at the end of the day, that's... kind of what it's supposed to do and one of the actual Pokemon things that makes sense. Let's just be happy T-Wave can actually miss and now not all Pokemon are completely crippled by the condition due to the nerf of speed loss
I'm wondering if the reason for some people saying 143 pokemon or whatever even though we only have around 80 is due to there being an extra set of islands only available after the main game that extends the pokedex. Unlikely, but just a thought.
Eehh... I wouldn't say 100% confirmed. It's not like if they could just say "Nintendo told us this and that and yada yada" without it actually happening.
They claim Nintendo said something, but give no quote or source or evidence or anything. And its not like this is coming from a high quality site or anything.....
I heard that there was possible TM data. Must know if this is confirmed and if/when it will be released. I'm curious of HM Moves became TM Move and if Defog is a TM. : )
But at what point is it not Paralysis anymore? I understand people would like the hax part of paralysis removed but at the end of the day, that's... kind of what it's supposed to do and one of the actual Pokemon things that makes sense. Let's just be happy T-Wave can actually miss and now not all Pokemon are completely crippled by the condition due to the nerf of speed loss
i didnt suggest that they completely remove the chance of being fully paralyzed, just reduce it. 15% or 10% seems decent. full paralysis is a mere side effect of the status. the main effect is the speed loss, so there is no reason that chances of full paralysis should be so unfathomably high.
Az's Floette Gonna be honest I kinda forgot about this existing
But I'm surprised it wasn't mined up with the rest considering its an event mon that hasn't been distributed so you'd think it would be in the roster like hoopa in oras
i didnt suggest that they completely remove the chance of being fully paralyzed, just reduce it. 15% or 10% seems decent. full paralysis is a mere side effect of the status. the main effect is the speed loss, so there is no reason that chances of full paralysis should be so unfathomably high.
I can see your point, though the reduced chance of full para doesn't seem conceivable to me for at least the near future. Perhaps an 8th gen installment? lol
the thunder wave nerf is ok, but gamefreak nerfed the wrong aspect of it, which makes it clear that they dont really know what they're doing in terms of balancing. the drop in speed was never the problem, the chance of being full paralyzed was.
I'll have a say on the matter of UBs being catchable. To talk about that, I'll tell a short story that happens in the RPG system I'm a DM for, Tormenta RPG.
In the world of Tormenta, Arton, there's a multiverse, but all multiverse was generated when Nothing and Emptiness consummated their love, and their love explosion originated everything. In this multiverse, you have several planes of existences, and an extraplanar being could travel through them. There's a flying island that travels through different planes as well. Included in this multiverse, we have the 20 Gods Planes, the 6 Elemental Planes and several, several others. But there's also something else. There's the Tormenta.
What was first believed to be an anticreation was actually better explained as another completely different creation. In a Universe (for a lack of a better world) where Nothing and Emptiness never consummated their love, three gods created something different, putting part of their essences into this new creation. This creation is so alien to humans that, now that for some reason that creation is starting to mix with this one, people can't even believe their eyes. Their minds play tricks to make the beings from the Lefeu Creation (the official name for that) look like giant bugs, because their real form is too alien to comprehend. Almost every human that visited an area of Tormenta loses levels and gets insane. The few ones that actually went to the other Creation lost their minds and their souls. That's how different the Lefeu Creation is from the Multiverse of Arton.
For reference, in the hide tags I put some images of how the Lefeus, also called Tormenta Demons, are understood by our puny human minds:
I think this is enough to give an overall idea.
Why did I say all this? Because that's how I see UBs. True, Arceus is the creator of the universe. True, Deoxys is from another planet. True, Giratina was banished to another realm and Dialga and Palkia are time and space incarnated. But they are all part of this creation, they are all part of Arceus' matter. I see UBs as the Lefeus, even the way they look like a mix of bug and human. I see them as the ultimate threat to both mankind and Pokémon. The very portals that get open when they come to our creation/universe can act as sinkholes that can swallow our whole existence.
Because of the way I see them, I really hope they aren't catchable. They shouldn't be. Their nature is too alien to be contained in a single PokéBall. Yes, Arceus is the creator of the universe, but that means he is part of this universe, therefore his atoms are made of the same molecules as the rest of his creation. UBs aren't from this creation, so their atoms and molecules, if they have such things, are too alien to be understood by anything made by men to work on this dimension/universe/creation.
And that's why I'm hoping they're totally not catchable.
One thing out of this datamine I was looking forward to but was not found is the location names of new areas
I didn't expect them to show up but it could've led to some cool speculation conversations over importance and name meanings but alas all the text scrubbing by game freak ruined my small glimpse of hope
I posted this somewhere else, but I'll post it in this thread too. People seem to be jumping to the conclusion that the island deities will follow the pattern outlined by Oricorio (Electric/Ghost/Fire/Psychic). While this is tempting, I'd like to propose an alternate theory: each of the island deities corresponds to a terrain move. With Psychic Terrain, there are 4 terrains, 4 islands, and 4 island deities. Tapu Koko's unique Electric Surge ability suggests that the other Tapus (or whatever) might have similar abilities for Grassy Terrain, Misty Terrain and now Psychic Terrain. If you follow from this to looking at the designs, I think it lines up:
Typing: Electric/Fairy Ability: Sets Electric Terrain Reason: Known information
Typing: Grass/Fairy Ability: Sets Grassy Terrain Reason: Fern-like hair, process of elimination (see other two)
Typing: Psychic/Fairy Ability: Sets Psychic Terrain Reason: Headpiece strongly resembles an open book, suggesting knowledge and the mind
Typing: Water/Fairy OR pure Fairy (unlikely) Ability: Sets Misty Terrain Reason: Headpiece resembles shell/swordfish, "mist" is water, already Fairy type
On the other hand, the coloration is eerily similar to Oricorio (although Tapu3 is way more orange than red, so there's that), so I could buy either one. However, Gamefreak has been known to create Pokemon with color schemes totally unrelated to their type (see: Reshiram and Zekrom, who people couldn't figure out the types for until they were confirmed), so don't bank too heavily on color. I'm torn between which theory I'd prefer to be true, because Fire/Fairy is cool but so are more automatic terrains.
