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"GG" and hax; what am I supposed to do?

StarmanXL

StarmanXL

I've encountered some people who get pissed off if someone wins due to hax and says "gg" after the battle. Honestly, I do not get it; isn't saying "good game" a simple courtesy? But if it really is an assholish thing to do, then what am I supposed to say if I win due to hax?

Also, another thing; why is it that so many people assume that if the other person won because of hax, they always would have most definitely lost if it weren't for said hax. I mean, I can see this if it's something like Hera's Stone Edge missing that last turn so that Weavile with three HP kills your Heracross with Aerial Ace, but if it's something like bad luck just during the match, then isn't it hasty and conceited to automatically assume the person was an inferior battler and you would have won?

I mean, I don't get it. If both players are competent, have good teams, and play to the best of their ability, but luck favors the other side, then why is the person who wins such a jerk when they say "Good Game"?
 
Because sarcasm doesn't convey well over the internet and most people, in the heat of being killed by hax, will assume that you recognize the fact that hax won the game and are being a conceited asshole by saying GG. That or they just don't believe the game was very "good" because it was decided on a coin flip that was heavily stacked against the person flipping (ex: crit, freezing, where your odds are much lower than 50%).
At least that's what I assume is the case. It's a phenomenon in pretty much every online game, be it Counter Strike or Magic: Online, that when you pull off a lucksac maneuver, your opponent is going to call you on it despite your best intentions and innocence in getting such good luck. People are just sore losers sometimes. It happens.

That said and knowing that people are sometimes just "sore losers," why does this need an entire thread?
 
Because some people don't realize that Pokemon is just a game created for Japanese 10-year-old children. Luck is just as much a part of battle as everything else, and some people like to use it as a total excuse for their loss. When people bitch and moan about things that are totally out of their control, it just shows how immature and removed from reality they are. But then again some people are just bitchy sore losers by nature.
 
Saying gg is just a show of respect as battlers, and most people say it regardless of the winning player's way or reason of winning.
 
GG is good sportsmanship. It is like saluting your opponent after a bout in fencing, kickboxing or whatever.

Whether you win or not, it should be seen as a sign of respect.
 
The same thing happens when "thank you" is interpreted sarcastically.
 
I say gg whether I win or lose. It's just for respect.

Circumstances don't matter either. Some people don't understand that luck is a part of the game.
 
yep, its just manners, anyone who uses it/ takes it as sarcasm is being a little immature imo. I say it after every battle, whether I won, lost, or believed I should have.
 
PassiveObserver said:
Remember the Counter-Strike demographic? They haven't gone anywhere.
Head shot? It had to be some aim hax!
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You can hardly log into a server without being accused of hacking these days...


But anyway if you're on shoddy or something then I feel that the easiest way to remedy this is to actually start a conversation with the person that you're versing while the game is on. That way you can judge their personality and if you do end up winning by "hax" then if you've already talked to them a bit its a lot easier to say something like "wow, that was a really close game".

And then after you have said that you can say the compulsory "GG", and i find they're a lot less likely to go over the top with you.
 
I say gg no matter what, unless the opponent reveals himself to be a total twat during the course of the battle.

A pet peeve of mine is when I score a critical hit and the opponent posts a message like "........." or "dam, stupid crit" just to make sure I acknowledge that I did in fact get a critical hit and that I should be so grateful.

Also, when I score a critical hit even though the foe was clearly dead anyway, and the opponent makes out like that was a total gamebreaker.
 
I say gg most of the time, I just hate it when people win by hax and refuse to recognize it. And if I get bad hax, I apologize, just like Jabba. People say that luck is part of the game, but when you would've lost if luck hadn't of factored in on that exact turn, can you really say that you didn't win by luck?
 
Like its been said, I also say gg after every battle as a sign of respect. If I lost due to hax, I usually vent my ideas about it during the battle.
 
I always say good game, regardless if my opponent is a douchewipe or not. I use it to show respect and in a way say "thanks for the battle," sorta thing. I don't really expect it to be said back sometimes, but it's always nice to show respect.

And by the way, this goes for any game, honestly. Not just Pokemon.
 
I usually say GG, unless the opponent is really bad or rude or something.

But hax happens and you have to accept that, it's all a part of Pokemon. If you don't like it, don't play. :/
 
I'd probably have said 'gg' during DP like 3 or 4 times. Simply put, it's too annoying to switch tabs just to say 'gg' on shoddy. Most of the time people leave before that. I prefer not to say anything at all and just get the hell on outta there regardless of the outcome.
 
I'm amazed how much is considered "hax". Any form of evasion is hax, even though there are a million moves and items dedicated to increasing /decreasing evasion and accuracy. Any OHKO move is hax, even though it is pitifully inaccurate and there are abilities to prevent it. Staple ghost moves like D-bond or Perish Trapping is hax. Togekiss is hax, regardless of its moveset. Quick Claws are hax. Flinching is hax. Freezing is hax. Criticals are hax. Critical hunting with Sniper or Super Luck are super-hax. I've even seen people miss with Stone Edge and call it hax!

C'mon, give me a break.

Luck is a BIG part of pokemon. Put in all the clauses you want. The fact remains that with all the skill in the world, the game can still turn on a roll of the dice. Unless you want to battle with nothing but 100% accurate, no-extra-effects moves and equip every pokemon with lefties -- get used to the luck element. It's a huge part of the game... good game (gg) or not.
 
If they stick around (as aeroblacktyl pointed out, it's rare), I usually say "Thanks for the Game." It's hard to mis-interpret and it's my habit from playing too much online Go anyway. =P
 
On Shoddy, I always use GG as a sign of respect. It peeves me to see it used sarcastically, or when someone responds 'no it fucking wasn't you haxing shit.'

Pokemon is all about luck. Some people just can't seem to understand this simple fact.
 
saying "gg" is the recognized way to end a battle. when i first got into competitive battling i didn't understand what "hax" meant, i had been playing poke in game for a long time and took the luck factor as just being part of the game. "hax" is just part of the game, it's a bummer if that causes you defeat, but it's not cheating.

also i just wanted to say the best part about the original post is the he worked a nature (hasty) into the paragraph. that got me so stoked.
 
If the game is indeed a very good one, what would you do (to those who say gg regardless of the content of the game)? I usually say gg even if the game was truly bad in my opinion, just because I don't want to be called a sore loser :P Get my logic?
 
tuskate said:
also i just wanted to say the best part about the original post is the he worked a nature (hasty) into the paragraph. that got me so stoked.
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I think the OP is quite brave to make such bold statements. Most people are too bashful or modest make a sassy remark like "GG" at the end of hax win. For me personally, I'm adamant that if my opponent makes the rash assumption that I'm trying to be impish, I stay calm and make a careful response. Normally, this makes the post-game more relaxed and has a tendency to quiet the situation. However, I'm not naive. I know that certain quirky individuals will still react negatively, no matter how gentle or docile I am attempting to behave. While most people think I'm jolly most of the time, I can get serious when necessary. I have a hardy ego, and I'm not timid about sharing my opinions, sometimes using naughty four-letter words in the process. If people can't handle it, they can play by themselves, which is a pretty lonely proposition.
 
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