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Detective Barricade said:
Apparently it was. Yet it's but a shadow compared to Talonflame's plummet, what with Gale Wings now only activating while at full HP, and Gengar's Special Attack and Speed are still as good as ever.
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What...the...FUCK?! But it's only OU!!! They made a good Route 1 Pokémon, and ruined it!!!

Poor Talonflame! Well, maybe he'll still be good in UU... No point in raising one now for competitive battles, I guess. I mean, sure he can outspeed most Pokémon, and use Roost, but now Stealth Rock will kinda shut it down.
 
JES said:
What...the...FUCK?! But it's only OU!!! They made a good Route 1 Pokémon, and ruined it!!!

Poor Talonflame! Well, maybe he'll still be good in UU... No point in raising one now for competitive battles, I guess. I mean, sure he can outspeed most Pokémon, and use Roost, but now Stealth Rock will kinda shut it down.
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Game Freak cares little for OU and that. Their focus is on VGC and double battles.
 
Detective Barricade said:
Game Freak cares little for OU and that. Their focus is on VGC and double battles.
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Can we make Levitate an optional ability for Gengar and not change Gale Wings in Showdown? I like Gengar, and even though it might be cool that it is now immune to Sucker Punch with Tapu Lele, I still like the Ground immunity for Singles (not to mention the EQ immunity). Then again, that's not as important as Gale Wings.
 
JES said:
Can we make Levitate an optional ability for Gengar and not change Gale Wings in Showdown? I like Gengar, and even though it might be cool that it is now immune to Sucker Punch with Tapu Lele, I still like the Ground immunity for Singles (not to mention the EQ immunity). Then again, that's not as important as Gale Wings.
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No. Because then it wouldn't be Sun/Moon.


Also little thing that annoys me... actually a big thing; breeding this gen sucks and I hate it and I'm dreading aftergame
 
Kurona said:
No. Because then it wouldn't be Sun/Moon.


Also little thing that annoys me... actually a big thing; breeding this gen sucks and I hate it and I'm dreading aftergame
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Wait, I'm still on my initial playthrough and haven't beat the game and gotten to the whole breeding thing, what's so bad about it? This doesn't sound good
 
WaffleTitan said:
Wait, I'm still on my initial playthrough and haven't beat the game and gotten to the whole breeding thing, what's so bad about it? This doesn't sound good
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I haven't beaten the game either but I'm doing a dex run so I decided to breed some eevees (the daycare is early in the game; before trial 1 on island 2 early).
It's... the new mechanic of the pokemon not levelling up while there is nice. That certainly helps. But the straight route beside it is split up by loading screens, which you actually have to leave to get the daycare girl outside to hold an egg. This isn't to mention the poke finder spot bliping every time you go past it, nor the huge change in music tone between route theme and ranch theme. It feels like every single thing they could have done to make it inconvenient, they did here.
It's especially annoying when they had it nigh-perfect in XY, and the loop-round-the-island thing in ORAS was a very cool step up. This is so backwards I'd actually argue it's worse than FRLG's breeding center, which is no easy feat.
I'm also really not liking how contrived and confusing they made multiplayer and that your friends list isn't immediately available, and I also don't like how hidden abilities are only available through call for help.

I hope this doesn't make it sound like I hate the game - because I'm really loving it. But all these things are making me dread when it's finally time to settle down and focus on multiplayer and breeding, and makes me wish for DP remakes for all the wrong reasons. I just don't understand how they messed up this bad.
 
Kurona said:
I haven't beaten the game either but I'm doing a dex run so I decided to breed some eevees (the daycare is early in the game; before trial 1 on island 2 early).
It's... the new mechanic of the pokemon not levelling up while there is nice. That certainly helps. But the straight route beside it is split up by loading screens, which you actually have to leave to get the daycare girl outside to hold an egg. This isn't to mention the poke finder spot bliping every time you go past it, nor the huge change in music tone between route theme and ranch theme. It feels like every single thing they could have done to make it inconvenient, they did here.
It's especially annoying when they had it nigh-perfect in XY, and the loop-round-the-island thing in ORAS was a very cool step up. This is so backwards I'd actually argue it's worse than FRLG's breeding center, which is no easy feat.
I'm also really not liking how contrived and confusing they made multiplayer and that your friends list isn't immediately available, and I also don't like how hidden abilities are only available through call for help.

I hope this doesn't make it sound like I hate the game - because I'm really loving it. But all these things are making me dread when it's finally time to settle down and focus on multiplayer and breeding, and makes me wish for DP remakes for all the wrong reasons. I just don't understand how they messed up this bad.
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So I'm assuming no post game daycare centre like in ORAS? That's a shame. But finding HA Pokemon through call for help is really neat imo. Not quite as good as using dex nav for the last couple of years but at least they are readily available unlike in XY. Just means you have to either burn though a lot of Pokeballs or constantly spam skill swap. They are called hidden abilities for a reason.
 
Kurona said:
I haven't beaten the game either but I'm doing a dex run so I decided to breed some eevees (the daycare is early in the game; before trial 1 on island 2 early).
It's... the new mechanic of the pokemon not levelling up while there is nice. That certainly helps. But the straight route beside it is split up by loading screens, which you actually have to leave to get the daycare girl outside to hold an egg. This isn't to mention the poke finder spot bliping every time you go past it, nor the huge change in music tone between route theme and ranch theme. It feels like every single thing they could have done to make it inconvenient, they did here.
It's especially annoying when they had it nigh-perfect in XY, and the loop-round-the-island thing in ORAS was a very cool step up. This is so backwards I'd actually argue it's worse than FRLG's breeding center, which is no easy feat.
I'm also really not liking how contrived and confusing they made multiplayer and that your friends list isn't immediately available, and I also don't like how hidden abilities are only available through call for help.

I hope this doesn't make it sound like I hate the game - because I'm really loving it. But all these things are making me dread when it's finally time to settle down and focus on multiplayer and breeding, and makes me wish for DP remakes for all the wrong reasons. I just don't understand how they messed up this bad.
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There's a new way to get breeding working well - running in circles. LITERALLY, hold the B button on Tauros and make circles will work wonders. The real negative is the loss of O-Powers. Of course then you will be really screwing up your control stick...

Then there's PokePeligo which, if you abuse properly, can hatch a box full of eggs in less time than it would take to hatch them normally.

Finally, well, at least we can send extra eggs to the PC. That's always a positive when you're, like, trying to hatch a 5 IV Dragon Pokemon.
 
Kurona said:
I haven't beaten the game either but I'm doing a dex run so I decided to breed some eevees (the daycare is early in the game; before trial 1 on island 2 early).
It's... the new mechanic of the pokemon not levelling up while there is nice. That certainly helps. But the straight route beside it is split up by loading screens, which you actually have to leave to get the daycare girl outside to hold an egg. This isn't to mention the poke finder spot bliping every time you go past it, nor the huge change in music tone between route theme and ranch theme. It feels like every single thing they could have done to make it inconvenient, they did here.
It's especially annoying when they had it nigh-perfect in XY, and the loop-round-the-island thing in ORAS was a very cool step up. This is so backwards I'd actually argue it's worse than FRLG's breeding center, which is no easy feat.
I'm also really not liking how contrived and confusing they made multiplayer and that your friends list isn't immediately available, and I also don't like how hidden abilities are only available through call for help.

I hope this doesn't make it sound like I hate the game - because I'm really loving it. But all these things are making me dread when it's finally time to settle down and focus on multiplayer and breeding, and makes me wish for DP remakes for all the wrong reasons. I just don't understand how they messed up this bad.
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I take this back ever since finding out how to breed properly in this game it's arguably the best breeding has ever been with but a single tiny inconvenience.
I mean if it was like how I described it would be deplorable, but once you find out about that fenced area... it's bliss.
 
Kurona said:
I take this back ever since finding out how to breed properly in this game it's arguably the best breeding has ever been with but a single tiny inconvenience.
I mean if it was like how I described it would be deplorable, but once you find out about that fenced area... it's bliss.
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It looks so inconsequential but it's just so perfect.
 
Kurona said:
No. Because then it wouldn't be Sun/Moon.


Also little thing that annoys me... actually a big thing; breeding this gen sucks and I hate it and I'm dreading aftergame
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Fuck Talonflame it is then! Gengar is going to take getting used to.
 
I've thought about it a bit, and I believe that the reason why fanservice in Pokémon games annoys me is because considering the nature of the franchise, fanservice is a fundamentally flawed idea. One of the most important parts of Pokémon is that everyone has their favorite-- whether that be the vicious Haxorus or the more tame Corsola. Imagine how thrilled Mawile lovers were when its Mega Evolution was released.

One might argue that since the Pokémon that got fanservice are, by definition, more popular, then GF would be doing a good thing in powering them up a bit. The problem with this idea is that it just attracts more people to the Pokémon, while the others sit aside, neglected. Imagine a world where only the really popular Pokémon-- pseudo-legendaries (to some degree), Lucario, Zoroark, Greninja, Pikachu, and so on got buffs that put them on pedestals far above their brethren. Pokémon fans would be divided into two groups:
  • The group consisting of mostly younger players that just pays attention to the new stuff.
  • The people whose favorite Pokémon didn't happen to make its way to the top, and deeply resent the ones that did.
This first group is Pokémon's main audience, but the second one might actually be bigger (as an example, a Google search for any Pokémon will yield impressive art featuring it [just make sure you turn on SafeSearch as you do it]).

Pokémon thrives on popularity, but to continue succeeding, it needs to remain balanced as well. Some Megas for less popular Pokémon did this well by shifting the spotlight away from Pikachu. However, when certain Pokémon spiral out of control, then not only does it really annoy us, but it's bad for the franchise too-- you can only sell so many Lucario figures, and when people get bored of them, Mega Lucario will only help a little bit, even as Spiritomb and Luxray sit to the side, deemed "unpopular". Little kids are a fickle audience, and they'd rather see something brand new than a "new and improved" Lucario design.

I'm no Codraroll-- as you can see, this is quite a messy post-- but I hope I got my message across. Thanks for reading!
 
I'm kind of annoyed that the Rotom Dex has to register new Pokemon one obtains through Wonder Trade, which of course takes a few minutes. Longer if it completes an evolution line. Getting the likes of Graveler/Kadabra/Machoke/Haunter is likely to be... painful if one hasn't registered them before getting them in a trade, since it's going to do the register thing twice...
 
So, I may be late to the SM annoys me party but better a late complainer than a non-complainer.

  • Starting with the basics here: the whole 'what do we abbreviate Sun/Moon to' made me want to throw something at my computer screen. How about using the first two letters like every other time a game's name only has one word after Pokemon? (E.g when a game is called Red and not Fire Red). SM does have an 18+ meaning, this is common knowledge. Guess what- so does DP. No-one was screaming for DiPe, so SuMo can die in a big hole. The only sumo I need is when two people wrestle.
  • 'But Briar, what if an innocent child types in SM into google?' 'Hey X, what if an innocent child types Gardevoir into google?'
  • I stupidly thought that I could actually play the game on a old 3ds xl and not have to buy a n3ds. Then I saw a video comparing game loading speeds and game booting speeds. I had a totem battle. I had a double battle. I bought a n3ds. Take all my money Nintendo.
  • Paniola Ranch. Was a nice straight road without grass/split screens too much to ask for? XY had the right idea- a beautiful riverside for all your hatching needs. Then ORAS came along with the quicksand that mildly annoys me. SM just had to make it even worse.
  • I just wanted a to catch an h/a Mareanie in a nice ball without trading for one. But just like with 80% of Alola native pokemon, I'll have to waste a good hour of my life for this to happen.
  • Try catching Dhelmise without a guide. Go on. I'll be waiting. But I could die of old age before you succeed.
  • Who here actually likes the festival plaza- the crappy lovechild of a bad PSS and a less fun Join Avenue? Not me.
  • There definitely doesn't need to be a computer there. Not at all. I mean, I won't be trading my 'mons in this plaza place, will I?
 
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BriarRose said:
  • Paniola Ranch. Was a nice straight road without grass/split screens too much to ask for? XY had the right idea- a beautiful riverside for all your hatching needs. Then ORAS came along with the quicksand that mildly annoys me. SM just had to make it even worse.
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This wouldn't have worked out well due to not having a d-pad to move anymore; you wouldn't be able to keep on a straight line. Instead there's an alternate method that is rather genius.
Go to the little fenced in area just a few steps south of the nursery and get on your Tauros, then run around. Due to the area being fenced in and the entrance being too small for the Tauros to go through, it won't be able to get out and will keep running in circles. This hatches eggs pretty fast with the only inconvenience being that you have to hold down B.
I was pretty annoyed before I found out though.

BriarRose said:
  • Try catching Dhelmise without a guide. Go on. I'll be waiting. But I could die of old age before you succeed.
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Dude at the counter in the Sushi High Roller.
"Dhelmise creates whirlpools to suck in and catch other Pokémon. Fishermen in Alola have learned to target its whirlpools and catch Pokémon there, too!"

hypno28 said:
Yeah, anyone objecting to "SM" as the abbreviation is a horrible person.
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okay dude chill




I've got my own little thoughts to share about how the aftergame for breeding and training is really bad but I'll save it until I've got my thoughts together.
 
BriarRose said:
So, I may be late to the SM annoys me party but better a late complainer than a non-complainer.

  • Starting with the basics here: the whole 'what do we abbreviate Sun/Moon to' made me want to throw something at my computer screen. How about using the first two letters like every other time a game's name only has one word after Pokemon? (E.g when a game is called Red Fire Red). SM does have an 18+ meaning, this is common knowledge. Guess what- so does DP. No-one was screaming for DiPe, so SuMo can die in a big hole. The only sumo I need is when two people wrestle.
  • 'But Briar, what if an innocent child types in SM into google?' 'Hey X, what if an innocent child types Gardevoir into google?'
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I just use SM.

BriarRose said:
  • I just wanted a to catch an h/a Mareanie in a nice ball without trading for one. But just like with 80% of Alola native pokemon, I'll have to waste a good hour of my life for this to happen.
  • Try catching Dhelmise without a guide. Go on. I'll be waiting. But I could die of old age before you succeed.
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Goes to the side exit of the Steelix ship. "Oh hey, a special fishing spot!" *Goes fishing in it* Wild Dhelmise appeared!

Still haven't gotten a Mareanie yet, though I'm filling my dex now so I'll look it up later.

BriarRose said:
  • Who here actually likes the festival plaza- the crappy lovechild of a bad PSS and a less fun Join Avenue? Not me.
  • There definitely doesn't need to be a computer there. Not at all. I mean, I won't be trading my 'mons in this plaza place, will I?
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Yeah, like I do level up my Festival Plaza but that's only because its something to do. It's not like Join Avenue in BW2 which I liked, I feel Festival Plaza to be a bit more limited in some respects which doesn't interest me.

Also when you trade it automatically opens up your PC.
 
BriarRose said:
So, I may be late to the SM annoys me party but better a late complainer than a non-complainer.

  • Starting with the basics here: the whole 'what do we abbreviate Sun/Moon to' made me want to throw something at my computer screen. How about using the first two letters like every other time a game's name only has one word after Pokemon? (E.g when a game is called Red Fire Red). SM does have an 18+ meaning, this is common knowledge. Guess what- so does DP. No-one was screaming for DiPe, so SuMo can die in a big hole. The only sumo I need is when two people wrestle.
  • 'But Briar, what if an innocent child types in SM into google?' 'Hey X, what if an innocent child types Gardevoir into google?'
  • I stupidly thought that I could actually play the game on a old 3ds xl and not have to buy a n3ds. Then I saw a video comparing game loading speeds, game booting speeds. I had a totem battle. I had a double battle. I bought a n3ds. Take all my money Nintendo.
  • Paniola Ranch. Was a nice straight road without grass/split screens too much to ask for? XY had the right idea- a beautiful riverside for all your hatching needs. Then ORAS came along with the quicksand that mildly annoys me. SM just had to make it even worse.
  • I just wanted a to catch an h/a Mareanie in a nice ball without trading for one. But just like with 80% of Alola native pokemon, I'll have to waste a good hour of my life for this to happen.
  • Try catching Dhelmise without a guide. Go on. I'll be waiting. But I could die of old age before you succeed.
  • Who here actually likes the festival plaza- the crappy lovechild of a bad PSS and a less fun Join Avenue? Not me.
  • There definitely doesn't need to be a computer there. Not at all. I mean, I won't be trading my 'mons in this plaza place, will I?
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Actually, I somehow managed to hook and catch a Dhelmise on my first try. I knew Seafolk Village had that fishing spot outside the Steelix boat hut, (though why Steelix? There's boat huts designed after Wailord and Huntail, and a Magikarp boat I swear Jessie and James could jump out of any minute, but...) but I'd no idea I'd find a Dhelmise there. I did find out that the game also lags if you use Pokemon Refresh with particularly large Pokemon such as Solgaleo, which is strange considering Pokemon Amie didn't lag when playing with huge Pokemon like Snorlax and Refresh is Amie minus the mini-games but with the ability to cure status.
 
Hitmonleet said:
I really dislike how you don't get all of the Z Crystals though the story. I never even got Psychium Z until the postgame, because I managed to never go though Haina Desert. Don't get me started with Haina Desert.
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I'm more annoyed by the fact you aren't shown how to do the poses for all the Z-Crystals... It doesn't affect gameplay, but considering the kahunas and trial captains (mostly) deem it worth their time to show the player character how to call upon the newly acquired Z-Crystal's power, it would've been nice to have that treatment with all 18 type crystals. (the Pokemon-specific ones seem to be the same as their respective type's, like Malicious Moonsault's seems to be the Dark type's pose for example) And I'm also saddened that neither the Bug type nor the Poison type pose are the Team Skull pose. Just a little.
 
Detective Barricade said:
I'm more annoyed by the fact you aren't shown how to do the poses for all the Z-Crystals... It doesn't affect gameplay, but considering the kahunas and trial captains (mostly) deem it worth their time to show the player character how to call upon the newly acquired Z-Crystal's power, it would've been nice to have that treatment with all 18 type crystals. (the Pokemon-specific ones seem to be the same as their respective type's, like Malicious Moonsault's seems to be the Dark type's pose for example) And I'm also saddened that neither the Bug type nor the Poison type pose are the Team Skull pose. Just a little.
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Now that you bring it up, it's annoying as well that despite Poisnium actually being given to you through the story by an NPC; you're never shown the pose.

You'd also think at least that the totem things you get Icium, Psychicnium and Flynium from would have some sort of egyptian-esque inscription showing directions on a pose. Oh well...
 
I really hate how the game (SM) doesn't punish those damn parasites on Festival Plaza. Honest-to-god here, I had like 10 people in a mission with me and I was the only one increasing the total score. Hell, I could easily get 999x of all items in less than a minute, but promised myself I wouldn't cheat this game in any away, shape or form and thus I'm willing to put up with all the grinding and whatnot, but this kind of bullshit is really grinding my gears.

/endrant
 
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