Pokémon Alolan Raichu

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Stoked Sparksurfer has its uses. Raichu appreciates the ability to slow down switch-ins and it gives Raichu some surprise factor since people don't expect you to have a fifth move.
 
Crud. I got all excited and grabbed one of these before realizing that they had to learn surf via event by proxy. Any suggestions for the fourth moveslot in a KokoPelliper Combo that does not have surf?
 
Garrus01 said:
Crud. I got all excited and grabbed one of these before realizing that they had to learn surf via event by proxy. Any suggestions for the fourth moveslot in a KokoPelliper Combo that does not have surf?
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Why would you do that?
So, Focus Blast, Volt Switch, Grass Knot(because frikkin Gastrodon) come to mind. Also, Hidden Powers and maybe Fake Out/some physical option. It is a member of the Pikachu Line, it's movepool is way better than it has any right to be, so you'll find something.
 
Garrus01 said:
Because I have little to no hope of ever getting my hands on a Pikachu with surf? If this was Pokemon showdown that would be one thing, but this is on my cartridge.
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My bad about this. But I'd say you're lucky. There are tons of things to fill the Surf-void, and GameFreak will likely do some SurfChu events soon. I personally think Grass Knot is better, cause it lets A-Raichu defeat the few Ground-Types Pelipper can't beat (read: any Water-Ground type).
 
For a Gen VII native on cart, would Hidden Power Water work as a substitute for Surf (assuming it's on a Rain/ET team that is)? It has 50% lower BP, but it still hurts Alolan Marowak and ground types.
 
Super effective Hidden Power Water is weaker than neutral STAB Psychic. So it's worthless for hitting those targets (unless you want to hit Claydol or something).
 
Alolan Raichu won't be able to get any transfer moves though, because no Pokémon transferred from previous generations would evolve into Alolan Raichu, it would just evolve into a regular one, since they wouldn't be from Alola
 
So what's the general consensus about modest vs timid for this mon? Been playing around with both and haven't really figured out which is the preferred one.
 
Unless you're not running Tapu Koko alongside it, Modest is the preferred nature because nothing is outspeeding A-Raichu while Electric Terrain is up outside of priority.

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And the occasional Scarf Pheromosa.
 
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I'd still run Timid on Alolan Raichu even with Koko Support. With a neutral nature and 252, Raichu only hits 319, which puts it below a couple crucial speed tiers (it's below the equivalent of Base 96 Positive 252), which includes tying other Base 110's, Garchomp, Base 100's like the Zards and Manaphy. While by no means a power house, Raichu is fast enough that it can make a difference being able to win a turn outside Electric terrain, especially against the latter two mons, who either exploit or push away Rain, something Raichu and Koko synergize very well with.
 
Why is 0 atk iv and 29 hp iv desirable on raichu? Especially with the atk , what's the purpose of the 0 atk ? Isn't 31 hp iv desirable instead of the 29?
 
jebus733 said:
Why is 0 atk iv and 29 hp iv desirable on raichu? Especially with the atk , what's the purpose of the 0 atk ? Isn't 31 hp iv desirable instead of the 29?
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A 0 Atk IV is to reduce confusion and Foul Play damage.

A 29 HP IV is to minimize Life Orb recoil while keeping as much HP as possible and keeping an odd IV (if you wish to use a Hidden Power).
 
pika pal said:
I'd still run Timid on Alolan Raichu even with Koko Support. With a neutral nature and 252, Raichu only hits 319, which puts it below a couple crucial speed tiers (it's below the equivalent of Base 96 Positive 252), which includes tying other Base 110's, Garchomp, Base 100's like the Zards and Manaphy. While by no means a power house, Raichu is fast enough that it can make a difference being able to win a turn outside Electric terrain, especially against the latter two mons, who either exploit or push away Rain, something Raichu and Koko synergize very well with.
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Timid Alolan Raichu is bad. Part of what makes RaiKoko rain threatening is the sheer destructiveness of modest Raichu, and you shouldn't be using Rai outside of the terrain anyway, as unless you know Rai is gonna complete the sweep or Kingdra/whatever can clean up you shouldn't be saccing off Tapu Koko before Raichu, meaning that it is a lot more likely to be the non-fieldspeed cleaner than Raichu is going to be.
 
PKQ said:
Hey so with all of this information which is better Modest or Timid Alolan Raichu?
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Run Modest nature. With Electric Terrain support, A-Raichu is fast enough to outspeed the majority of the threats anyway and the extra SpA is useful in many situations.
You don't outspeed a +1 Pheromosa under Electric Terrain, that's it.

A Timid nature is required without Tapu Koko support...but, let's be honest, A-Raichu without Electric Terrain support is underwhelming or you can try a Nasty Plot set (you can force a first switch towards many Water and Flying types). 110 base Spe is high, but A-Raichu is frail and lacking power without support/Nasty Plot.
 
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nameless90 said:
Run Modest nature. With Electric Terrain support, A-Raichu is fast enough to outspeed the majority of the threats anyway and the extra SpA is useful in many situations.
You don't outspeed a +1 Pheromosa under Electric Terrain, that's it.

A Timid nature is required without Tapu Koko support...but, let's be honest, A-Raichu without Electric Terrain support is underwhelming or you can try a Nasty Plot set (you can force a first switch towards many Water and Flying types). 110 base Spe is high, but A-Raichu is frail and lacking power without support/Nasty Plot.
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Ok thank you
 
I've been playing around with Raichu-A and I've come to the conclusion that this is the best set in OU (in my opinion):

Raichu-A
Timid/Modest Nature
Life Orb
-Thunder
-Psychic
-Focus Blast
-Nasty Plot/Grass Knot/HP Ice

Game Freak set up Raichu to be a niche destroyer. Counterpicking mainly Celesteela, Pheromosa, and Toxapex using its tools.

The Nature could go either way, really. Modest is really great for letting Raichu hit harder overall, but timid lets you outspeed +1 speed Pheromosa, which is good because Pheromosa is the definition of wallbreaker. It's situational, but it works.

Life Orb's obvious. You just hit harder. No Choice Specs because it limits you, and no Choice Scarf because you're already the fastest thing in the game with Tapu Koko. Aloraichium Z is also pretty good, but... you have to lose power overall just for the sake of ONE really powerful attack. Thunder has to go to Thunderbolt in order for the Z-move to work, and your other moves lose their extra 50% power.

Thunder hits hard, gets 1/3 chance for paralysis, and is basically 100% accuracy with Pelipper around

Psychic is of course there just for Psychic-type STAB. Psyshock could also work, but it's very situational for when it does. (It's only pretty much optimal for Chansey)

Focus Blast is there to hit Steel and Dark types hard.

Nasty Plot may be debatable, but I find it to be great. With Tapu Koko having Terrain Extender, it's a way to deal with set-ups on the opposing team. Mainly leech seed users and protectors that try to stall a turn are in this category. They stall, you Nasty Plot. You have enough power to kill Garchomp with Psychic. Most things fall to Thunder, Psychic, and Focus Blast anyways when +2 boosted. However, I strongly advise that you do not run Nasty Plot on Raichu when your Koko is running another item. Use Grass Knot or HP Ice for coverage instead
 
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