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NOC The Mafia Invitational Redux Game Thread - GAME OVER

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Yeti said:
i personally think ag has the highest odds of being scum but i agree with you that lw seems to be freely shading people and it's like :blobglare:
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What if we...

Lynch LightWolf then :blobthinking:

In all honesty I'd rather lynch him before asek, because LW is a lot better at lying his way out of situations compared to Asek (sorry asek) and I don't want us to spend 5 days before lynching a slot that really should get lynched.
 
Also LightWolf gonna hold off until you get back before deciding on my lynch choice, but as a question: Why did you only quote part of my post, and not use the actual quote function to quote the entire thing for clarifying context? That is honestly driving me nuts with how shady and underhanded it is, tbh.
 
Votals the Thirteenth
Asek (3): Former Hope, Yeti, Hitmonleet
Aura Guardian (2): KnightsofCydonia, MoodyCloud
Hitmonleet (1): Asek
KnightsofCydonia (1): Aura Guardian

Not voting: Da Letter El, LightWolf

deadline is in a bit under 2 hours
 
ok but where has dle been, at all.

moody, asek, ag??

leet and fh and you have checked in but the rest of these nitwits smh

oh also knights was here but hasnt been here
 
Hitmonleet said:
Also: Why not think the actual logical thing and that "all my town reads have died" refers to, you know, everyone who is dead, while "despite my objections" refers to those I could actually object to: the lynches. I guess "some" being inserted between the two would have clarified things more.
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The argument wasn't it could have been a freudian slip therefore you are scum, the argument was that what he was reading you as town for because it can only come out of town, was a false premise. I did not, nor did I intend to prove you are scum with this, I was merely interested in opening Former Hope up to the possibility of actual considering you, instead of reading you as town based on that statement.

Also as for quoting the whole thing, really you go there to discredit me? "I've honestly got kind of burnt out now that literally every one of my town reads died in quick succession despite my objections. Gonna be a bit out of things today, sorry." The third part is entirely irrelevant, you excusing yourself from the thread has no relation except cause and effect to the part you personally italicized. And the first part also has no bearing on the context I was bringing it up in, which was FH reading you positively for you exclaiming literally all your town reads died despite your objections.

Stop trying to weasel out of addressing my qualms with you and then I will maybe stop being increasingly hostile in getting you to reply to them. You have been ascertaining my scumminess for a while, yet instead of diving into the treasure pile that should be my accusations if coming from a scum mindset aimed at a mislynch, you made on overreaction omgus at me and have stopped meaningfully addressing me ever since, and that ever since has been two damn days. Get on it or get dying.
Former Hope said:
I'll be in a meeting then.

Otherwise, I don't think my reads have changed that much from earlier except for maybe a bit with koc, but Id need to think more on that.

So basically. Please lynch asek, I'm like 90% sure he's scum, especially after comments today. And if I die, I support yetis poe game solve

Probably for the order, lw, ag and then dle

Don't have time to write out a big explination, but not a huge fan of lw trying to shade people for somewhat weak reasons - but Id want to actually look more throughly
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As I said FH it's not shading, you are positively reading Hitmon for something I consider NAI, because it can easily come from scum perspective as well as town. If I want to argue about my bigger points against Hitmon with anyone(that no one beyond AG acknowledged) then I need to get unrelated biases out of the way first top OPEN YOUR MIND to the possiblity, speaking of which.
Yeti said:
What counter argument? I disagree with your disagreeing of what I said. Why I think he's town holds, I don't think scum make that joke hammer
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All the counter arguments. You are town reading someone for a blatantly NAI thing, while shading me for the blatantly NAI thing of being afk. IF you want to reason moody is clear, disprove how it could have come from scum, because as long as it can come from scum it's not a valid argument.
 
lol bruh you did this non-interaction wallpost strategy in matrix AND in the champs game you subbed into bc you felt too much pressure to do anything but the massiveposts nobody read in that game. idk why you try to claim this isn't AI for you when i've seen it with my own eyes.
 
Yeti said:
lol bruh you did this non-interaction wallpost strategy in matrix AND in the champs game you subbed into bc you felt too much pressure to do anything but the massiveposts nobody read in that game. idk why you try to claim this isn't AI for you when i've seen it with my own eyes.
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Because this is what I do as town too. That is why it worked in Matrix because everyone was comparing it to my town performance as I haven't worn big boy pants for ages as mafia, which was like a game where I lynched aska my team mate when I noticed he screwed up and rode that to victory. And you argument isn't that wallposting is AI, your argument is ME IDLING WAS AI. Idling if being actively proded my the host is never AI, and you continuously trying to push what isn't AI such as idling and moody's hammer as it suits you, puts you in question. I know you know perfectly well that everything I do I do as town as well as scum. The fact you ain't even bringing up the very important bit you assuredly did, namely that you can differntiate my scum and town game(dunno what game that was said in) yet aren't doing so here in a meaningful capacity beyond trying to imply that what I always end up doing is scum, because my recent games were scum, shows to me you can't use those arguments, because you can't apply them to me right now.

Either way pointless to argue, I'm not dying(I mean scum is free to kill me at night, I'd laugh my ass off if they kill someone most people are okay with lynching), and I can argue after the events that are gonna reveal a lot tomorrow. And then we can see how much of a honest background you have for your pushes thsi game.

EITHER WAY WAY. Ladies and gentleman, today's final LW vote goes to. Dundundun Vote Asek
If you can't figure out why it's pointless of me to want to lynch Hitmon first from my one is def scum group of Asek and Hitmon(despite hitmon's extreme lack of getting anything meaningful in today despite my best attempts to give him a platform) then think about it for a second. Also helps people are actually willing to lynch Asek. But again, WHY do I think Hitmon is better left for tomorrow is a p easy answer, but I'm not gonna spell it out as I have no intention of helping scum.
 
lynch I'm the most confident about is AG who has done nothing to make me change my mind since I voted him

idk what's the deal with the hammer being cited as reason to tr me but people who think it is scum indicative should speak up now rather than wait til lylo to go "UM REMEMBER THAT HAMMER GUYS ?"

isoing AG
 
I don't like AG as much as the next guy, but can we PLEASE lynch from the group of two that magically were against both mislynches. THINK, it kinda guarantees we get mafia either today or tomorrow.
 
it should be 3-4 and i can move back to asek in case some retard tries to tie it

btw lw/ag voting asek here is absolutely 0 towncred, if asek is scum they didn't have another option besides each other since leet didn't gain enough traction

vote ag and lw tomorrow no matter what asek flips honestly lol

get ag first imo
 
Votals the Fourteenth
Asek (5): Former Hope, Yeti, Hitmonleet, LightWolf, Aura Guardian
Aura Guardian (2): KnightsofCydonia, MoodyCloud
Hitmonleet (1): Asek

Not voting: Da Letter El

Asek was

Mafia Goon

Night 3 ends at 4PM PDT, March 16th.
 
Pings, Paperblade !

The numbers game is 6 to 2 rn. We've got out first red flip and now it's time to pore over Asek's associatives.

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Asek said:
  • theres an odd link between prophylaxis and koc in that proph keeps preferring to engage knights over any other player and knights keeps weirdly sucking him off and making excuses to not vote him / join the wagon. i think this has potential to be buddying either way, potentially s/s
  • i havent been impressed with prophylaxis response to hawkie being 'can you give reasons' (reasons are given' 'this isnt reasonable its hard to engage with you' and i dont remember them trying to push onto any alternative? its like theyre content to just trying to survive rahter then trying to push any other angle
  • texas + proph keep doing the 'i suck at scum :'((((( ' routine and i VOMIT whenever i see this shit.
  • koc feels like most of their posts are gas? like they arent contributing anything to the discourse that is happening in what i think is real time conditions? like theyve definitely made a lot of posts but a lot of it is 'hm i can see you are voting x. but i dont want to join / offer an alternative' wolfy.
  • metal sonic feels null but im shook since last game when i had them high tr d1 and they were scum so yeah. theyre probably town lean
  • hawkie is the most interesting case at this point. i have a decent amount of experience playing with / against town! hawkie but very little with them as scum and am relatively unsure if they can succesfully emulate the style as scum. im pretty confident in townreading them for now but Hawkie can u link me a scum game pretty please? the tunnel is probably indicative of town more than anything anyway
  • former hopes mason thing at the start was anti town play, but theyve felt consistently tonally pure. theyre exhibiting a sense of wanting to solve moreso then most of the other slots itg during my read where reading half this shit was going through the motions instead of reading interesint / enjoyable content like the d1 of last game
  • im going to iso yeti to try generate a read i dont have 1 atm soz. i do remember that weird post on koc which felt like it may have been a pocket attempt. gonna stew on that
  • moody popped in and their contributions seemed largely to be going along with the flow. their posts seemed innocent enough but i didnt really get any impression / read from them.
  • texas claims to have been pushing people in one of his posts and generating wagons but i can remember literally 0 of their wagons taking off and generating any kind of play conductive to finding scum so lol. siting on prop whilst claiming to tr them instead of pushing any kind of alternative is retarded
  • dle, empoof, walrein and lightwolf? lol
tldr - most of the posts so far have been gas. the hawkie --> proph tunnel has been the only illuminating thing so far this game

hawkie
fh
moody yeti metal sonic
texas
koc proph

dle walrein empoof lw

figure that out urself
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